Is The Earth Flat Or Round?

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Is The Earth Flat Or Round?


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RaceRunner

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From “100 Proofs the Earth is Not a Globe” by William Carpenter, “If we take a journey down the Chesapeake Bay, by night, we shall see the ‘light’ exhibited at Sharpe's Island for an hour before the steamer gets to it. We may take up a position on the deck so that the rail of the vessel's side will be in a line with the ‘light’ and in the line of sight; and we shall find that in the whole journey the light won't vary in the slightest degree in its apparent elevation. But, say that a distance of thirteen miles has been traversed, the astronomers' theory of ‘curvature’ demands a difference (one way or the other!) in the apparent elevation of the light, of 112 feet 8 inches! Since, however, there is not a difference of 100 hair's breadths, we have a plain proof that the water of the Chesapeake Bay is not curved, which is a proof that the Earth is not a globe.”
 

RaceRunner

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NASA and modern astronomy say the Earth is a giant ball tilted back, wobbling and spinning 1,000 mph around its central axis, traveling 67,000 mph circles around the Sun, spiraling 500,000 mph around the Milky Way, while the entire galaxy rockets a ridiculous 670,000,000 mph through the Universe, with all of these motions originating from an alleged “Big Bang” cosmogenic explosion 14 billion years ago. That’s a grand total of 670,568,000 mph in several different directions we’re all supposedly speeding along at simultaneously, yet no one has ever seen, felt, heard, measured or proven a single one of these motions to exist whatsoever.
 

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There are 8 inches of curvature per mile.

Their formula is actually 8 inches per mile squared; so at two miles the
curve would be 32 inches instead of 16 and at three miles it would be 72
inches instead of 24.

However, the formula yields parabolic curves rather than circular so it's useless
for spherical calculations; but the flatters cling to it anyway because it's more to
their advantage.

* Their tenacity kind of reminds me of Dr. Anthony Fauci and his mantra
"Follow The Science" when of course he means his science rather than actual
data.
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RaceRunner

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NASA and modern astronomy say Polaris, the North Pole star, is somewhere between 323-434 light years, or about 2 quadrillion miles, away from us! Firstly, note that is between 1,938,000,000,000,000 - 2,604,000,000,000,000 miles making a difference of 666,000,000,000,000 (over six hundred trillion) miles! If modern astronomy cannot even agree on the distance to stars within hundreds of trillions of miles, perhaps their “science” is flawed and their theory needs re-examining. However, even granting them their obscurely distant stars, it is impossible for heliocentrists to explain how Polaris manages to always remain perfectly aligned straight above the North Pole throughout Earth’s various alleged tilting, wobbling, rotating and revolving motions.

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RaceRunner

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Viewed from a ball-Earth, Polaris, situated directly over the North Pole, should not be visible anywhere in the Southern hemisphere. For Polaris to be seen from the Southern hemisphere of a globular Earth, the observer would have to be somehow looking “through the globe,” and miles of land and sea would have to be transparent. Polaris can be seen, however, up to over 20 degrees South latitude.
 

RaceRunner

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If Earth were a ball, the Southern Cross and other Southern constellations would all be visible at the same time
from every longitude on the same latitude as is the case in the North with Polaris and its surrounding constellations. Ursa Major/Minor and many others can be seen from every Northern meridian simultaneously whereas in the South, constellations like the Southern Cross cannot. This proves the Southern hemisphere is not “turned under” as in the ball-Earth model, but simply stretching further outwards away from the Northern center-point as in the flat Earth model.

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RaceRunner

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Their formula is actually 8 inches per mile squared; so at two miles the
curve would be 32 inches instead of 16 and at three miles it would be 72
inches instead of 24.


However, the formula yields parabolic curves rather than circular so it's useless
for spherical calculations; but the flatters cling to it anyway because it's more to
their advantage.


* Their tenacity kind of reminds me of Dr. Anthony Fauci and his mantra
"Follow The Science" when of course he means his science rather than actual
data.
_
The horizon always appears perfectly flat 360 degrees around the observer regardless of altitude. All amateur balloon, rocket, plane and drone footage show a completely flat horizon over 20+ miles high. Only NASA and other government “space agencies” show curvature in their fake CGI photos/videos.

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it is impossible for heliocentrists to explain how Polaris manages to always remain perfectly aligned straight above the North Pole throughout Earth’s various alleged tilting, wobbling, rotating and revolving motions.
No it isn't.
 
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Viewed from a ball-Earth, Polaris, situated directly over the North Pole, should not be visible anywhere in the Southern hemisphere. For Polaris to be seen from the Southern hemisphere of a globular Earth, the observer would have to be somehow looking “through the globe,” and miles of land and sea would have to be transparent. Polaris can be seen, however, up to over 20 degrees South latitude.
The earth's axis is tilted.
 
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All amateur balloon, rocket, plane and drone footage show a completely flat horizon over 20+ miles high.
That's false.

You post falsehood after falsehood, ignorant statement after ignorant statement.

Oh, right... You're a flat-earther.

I'm leaving the thread. Have fun.
 

RaceRunner

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Sigma Octantis is claimed to be a Southern central pole star similar to Polaris, around which the Southern hemisphere stars all rotate around the opposite direction. Unlike Polaris, however, Sigma Octantis can NOT be seen simultaneously from every point along the same latitude, it is NOT central but allegedly 1 degree off-center, it is NOT motionless, and in fact cannot be seen at all using publicly available telescopes! There is legitimate speculation regarding whether Sigma Octantis even exists. Either way, the direction in which stars move overhead is based on perspective and the exact direction you’re facing, not which hemisphere you are in.

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RaceRunner

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Some heliocentrists have tried to suggest that the Pole Star’s gradual declination overhead as an observer travels southwards is proof of a globular Earth. Far from it, the declination of the Pole Star or any other object is simply a result of the Law of Perspective on plane (flat) surfaces. The Law of Perspective dictates that the angle and height at which an object is seen diminishes the farther one recedes from the object, until at a certain point the line of sight and the seemingly uprising surface of the Earth converges to a vanishing point (i.e. the horizon line) beyond which the object is invisible. In the ball-Earth model the horizon is claimed to be the curvature of the Earth, whereas in reality, the horizon is known to be simply the vanishing line of perspective based on the strength of your eyes, instruments, weather and altitude.

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Do any of your these calculations take the phenomena of refraction into consideration?

Do any of your these calculations take the phenomena of refraction into consideration?

Do any of your these calculations take the phenomena of refraction into consideration?
Do any of your these calculations take the phenomena of refraction into consideration?
Do any of your these calculations take the phenomena of refraction into consideration?
Do any of your these calculations take the phenomena of refraction into consideration?
Do any of your these calculations take the phenomena of refraction into consideration?
Do any of your these calculations take the phenomena of refraction into consideration?
Lol. So you'd sooner believe that light bends to justify the ball-Earth theory, than simply believe what your senses and the information is telling you - that Earth is flat? Refraction can occur under special conditions - but not every single time. It's the exception, not the rule.
 
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That's false.

You post falsehood after falsehood, ignorant statement after ignorant statement.

Oh, right... You're a flat-earther.

I'm leaving the thread. Have fun.
An example of cognitive dissonance? A core belief (like heliocentrism) is threatened, natural instinct is anger or ignore.
 
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An example of cognitive dissonance? A core belief (like heliocentrism) is threatened, natural instinct is anger or ignore.
No. I simply know when something becomes futile and it's time to quit.

1 Cor 14:38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
 
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No. I simply know when something becomes futile and it's time to quit.

1 Cor 14:38 But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
I'm not sure that we're always aware when cognitive dissonance comes into play. :)
 

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There are several constellations which can be seen from far greater distances over the face of the Earth than should be possible if the world were a rotating, revolving, wobbling ball. For instance, Ursa Major, very close to Polaris, can be seen from 90 degrees North latitude (the North Pole) all the way down to 30 degrees South latitude. For this to be possible on a ball-Earth the Southern observers would have to be seeing through hundreds or thousands of miles of bulging Earth to the Northern sky.
 

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The constellation Vulpecula can be seen from 90 degrees North latitude, all the way to 55 degrees South latitude. Taurus, Pisces and Leo can be seen from 90 degrees North all the way to 65 degrees South. An observer on a ball-Earth, regardless of any tilt or inclination, should not logically be able to see this far.
 

RaceRunner

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Aquarius and Libra can be seen from 65 degrees North to 90 degrees South! The constellation Virgo is visible from 80 degrees North down to 80 degrees South, and Orion can be seen from 85 degrees North all the way to 75 degrees South latitude! These are all only possible because the “hemispheres” are not spheres at all but concentric circles of latitude extending outwards from the central North Pole with the stars rotating over and around.

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