What Is The Gospel?

[Reborn-Adopted]

I don't listen to the false church...I hear the Shepherd's voice.

what you hear is are martin luther's voice telling you imputed righteousness is like walking in paradise. he was talking about living in sin.

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

What is righteous sin?
Do you have a biblical reference of such?

there is no righteous sin ...righteousness is refusing to do sin ...those that have Fully Repented and Denied themselves. understand what side of the veil you are on.

 

[Cameron143]

what you hear is are martin luther's voice telling you imputed righteousness is like walking in paradise. he was talking about living in sin.

How could you possibly know what I hear?

 

[Cameron143]

there is no righteous sin ...righteousness is refusing to do sin ...those that have Fully Repented and Denied themselves. understand what side of the veil you are on.

What I'm learning is how scattered your thoughts are and how lacking your discernment is.

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

How could you possibly know what I hear?

You can be sure His Voice isn't Telling you to go and sin some more.

 

[Cameron143]

You can be sure His Voice isn't Telling you to go and sin some more.

You should be careful how you judge a Christian and consider exactly what voice it is that you hear.

 

[Cameron143]

You can be sure His Voice isn't Telling you to go and sin some more.

Would you be amenable to answering a few of my questions?

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

Would you be amenable to answering a few of my questions?

of course

 

[Cameron143]

of course

Thanks.
On what basis do you believe God forgives sin?

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

Thanks.
On what basis do you believe God forgives sin?

All sin you have done is Forgiven until you Join Him in being Crucified to the flesh. This actually means what It Says:

[Heb 10:26 KJV] For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

[Gal 5:24 KJV] And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

 

[Cameron143]

All sin you have done is Forgiven until you Join Him in being Crucified to the flesh. This actually means what It Says:

[Heb 10:26 KJV] For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

[Gal 5:24 KJV] And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

I'm glad to understand more of what you believe but that still doesn't tell me on what basis God forgives sin.
Can you tell me how God can remain just and still forgive sin?

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

I'm glad to understand more of what you believe but that still doesn't tell me on what basis God forgives sin.
Can you tell me how God can remain just and still forgive sin?

You have to Join CHRIST in His Death to get your sins Forgiven. That means Denying your future sins.

Born from Above/Heaven is being Born Again to your second man ...The Son Of Man in you.
The Son Of Man Coming in the clouds is Key to having a sin rejecting conscience that doesn’t war with the flesh. So is there a connection between Him Coming in the clouds and Adoption?

You can't do this without The Age of The Son Of Man Adoption:

1 Corinthians 15:46-47 KJV — Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.​

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John 3:13 KJV — And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.​

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The Son Of Man is The Last Adam. We go from the corrupted image of Adam (we all choose our own will at some point) to The Holy Image of CHRIST (Rebirth-Adoption). It's what Chapter 1 Cor 15 is about.

1 Corinthians 15:49 KJV — And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.​

 

[Inquisitor]

Can we stop pretending we don't know what this is really about? If you don't do this, Awesome ...but it still applies to other sins where it's your own will and not HIS.

lusting after a woman with porn is adultery in your heart ...that means it is spiritual adultery against GOD. You are giving into your flesh with your own will saying you want literal separation with GOD to perform the act. it is death. JESUS Said to pluck out your eye before doing it ...He couldn't be more Serious.

Matthew 5:27-29 NKJV — “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ “But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. “If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you; for it is more profitable for you that one of your members perish, than for your whole body to be cast into hell.

I am asking you whether you still sin after having known Him?

 

[Cameron143]

You have to Join CHRIST in His Death to get your sins Forgiven. That means Denying your future sins.

Born from Above/Heaven is being Born Again to your second man ...The Son Of Man in you.
The Son Of Man Coming in the clouds is Key to having a sin rejecting conscience that doesn’t war with the flesh. So is there a connection between Him Coming in the clouds and Adoption?

You can't do this without The Age of The Son Of Man Adoption:

1 Corinthians 15:46-47 KJV — Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.​

​

John 3:13 KJV — And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.​

​

The Son Of Man is The Last Adam. We go from the corrupted image of Adam (we all choose our own will at some point) to The Holy Image of CHRIST (Rebirth-Adoption). It's what Chapter 1 Cor 15 is about.

1 Corinthians 15:49 KJV — And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.​

Again, I'm very thankful for what you have shared. I'm familiar with salvation.
What I'm asking is how can God who is perfectly just, forgive sins without exacting punishment from those who have sinned and still be just?

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

I am asking you whether you still sin after having known Him?

you need all sin to be equally offensive to continue doing the ones that are death. i don't ask GOD for separation to perform willful sin. if you plan to do a sin you know is a sin ...it is death.

Genesis 2:17 NKJV — “but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.”

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

Again, I'm very thankful for what you have shared. I'm familiar with salvation.
What I'm asking is how can God who is perfectly just, forgive sins without exacting punishment from those who have sinned and still be just?

He Sent His Son as a Sacrifice for all men ...if they Join Him on The Cross.

 

[Cameron143]

He Sent His Son as a Sacrifice for all men ...if they Join Him on The Cross.

And how many of a person's sins would have to be paid for for them to be justified?

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

And how many of a person's sins would have to be paid for for them to be justified?

sin is separation in your Relationship with CHRIST ...you either start doing His Will or you get the lake of fire.

 

[Cameron143]

sin is separation in your Relationship with CHRIST ...you either start doing His Will or you get the lake of fire.

So you believe salvation only covers sins before salvation and then you are under a covenant of works like Adam?

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

So you believe salvation only covers sins before salvation and then you are under a covenant of works like Adam?

the false church teaches you that JESUS is your servant to clean up your new sins. They all want a Savior ...without the Obey a LORD part.