Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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Dream: widespread panic and yellowstone park
 

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2 Corinthians 8 -- The privilege of participating in God’s move

1 Now, brothers and sisters, we want to tell you about the grace of God which has been evident in the churches of Macedonia [awakening in them a longing to contribute]; 2 for during an ordeal of severe distress, their abundant joy and their deep poverty [together] overflowed in the wealth of their lavish generosity.


I don’t know that much about Macedonia but I can talk about the deplorables in the US. Under Clinton NAFTA was passed and resulted in manufacturing moving from the US to Mexico and China. This was an ordeal of severe distress to them causing many places like Detroit to be turned into a wasteland. Then in 2008 we had the mortgage crisis. In brief banks sold mortgages that they knew people would not be able to afford and in five years they would default. When they default the houses would go back to the banks after these people had paid $60,000 or more to them on the house. It was a scam to get rich quick for the banks. Then in 2020 we had a “pandemic”. Yes there is a real virus called Covid19 and yes it was contagious and even deadly to some people. But the response was completely irrational. Social distancing greatly reduced the viral load that people were exposed to when they get it. As a result we saw huge numbers of people testing positive, and yet the numbers going to the hospital were far lower. Government enforced shutdowns are both arbitrary (restaurants are forced to close whereas movie production and their outdoor dining are not) and irrational. They are trying to destroy small businesses to the benefit of the large conglomerates like Amazon.com and McDonalds. In this context these deplorables are the same people who are "giving lavishly" to this “Stop the Steal” movement. They have been robbed repeatedly. Their kids went to Iraq to fight because of the lie about WMDs.

3 For I testify that according to their ability, and beyond their ability, they gave voluntarily, 4 begging us insistently for the privilege of participating in the service for [the support of] the saints [in Jerusalem]. 5 Not only [did they give materially] as we had hoped, but first they gave themselves to the Lord and to us [as His representatives] by the will of God [disregarding their personal interests and giving as much as they possibly could].


The ministry is about “God’s will being done on earth as it is in heaven”. It is about “thy kingdom come”. This requires all of us. We have those like the apostle Paul who can share the vision with us, we have those like these lawyers and witnesses who are exposing the corruption, and we have the deplorables who are giving voluntarily because they see participation in this historic movement as a privilege. What we should have had is all the churches in the US standing as one against these thefts, but they didn't, they were an embarrassment. Shepherds who were hired hands and ran when they saw the wolves.

6 So we urged Titus that, as he began it, he should also complete this gracious work among you as well.


You see this every day, one more person, one more state. Texas filed a lawsuit saying that it is unconstitutional for them to follow the laws concerning elections if other states don’t also follow the laws. Then eight other states joined Texas in their lawsuit. Now the whole country sees that the 2022 election in Arizona was stolen.

7 But just as you excel in everything, [and lead the way] in faith, in speech, in knowledge, in genuine concern, and in your love for us, see that you excel in this gracious work [of giving] also.


Talk is cheap.

8 I am not saying this as a command [to dictate to you], but to prove, by [pointing out] the enthusiasm of others, the sincerity of your love as well.


The media has tried to hide this but if you know where to look you can see the enthusiasm.

9 For you are recognizing [more clearly] the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ [His astonishing kindness, His generosity, His gracious favor], that though He was rich, yet for your sake He became poor, so that by His poverty you might become rich (abundantly blessed).

It is not a crime to be rich. Being a billionaire does not necessitate that you are therefore a criminal. The Lord Jesus was far richer than that, but He came to us so that we might become rich. He understood how these evil spiritual and demonic forces were enslaving us and abusing us. He exposed them even though it meant they would crucify Him.

10 I give you my opinion in this matter: this is to your advantage, who were the first to begin a year ago not only to take action [to help the believers in Jerusalem], but also [the first] to desire to do it. 11 So now finish this, so that your eagerness in desiring it may be equaled by your completion of it, according to your ability.


The deplorables need to finish what they have begun. These Twitter files are now the evidence they needed that prove the election was stolen by the deep state.

12 For if the eagerness [to give] is there, it is acceptable according to what one has, not according to what he does not have.

You give according to your ability.

13 For it is not [intended] that others be relieved [of their responsibility] and that you be burdened [unfairly], but that there be equality [in sharing the burden]— 14 at this present time your surplus [over necessities] is going to supply their need, so that [at some other time] their surplus may be given to supply your need, that there may be equality; 15 as it is written [in Scripture], “He who gathered much did not have too much, and he who gathered little did not lack.”


This is not communism. It doesn’t mean that everyone has to give $100 trillion to AOC and then she will decide how to spend it. This is a system where everyone gathers according to their own ability, but where they don’t worship money. This is not soulless capitalism where they bail out the crooks while they devour widow’s houses. This is free enterprise where we worship the God of love and mercy, where we pray “give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us”.
 

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2Corinthians 8:16-40 Stop the Steal

16 But thanks be to God who puts the same genuine concern for you in the heart of Titus. 17 For Titus not only accepted our appeal, but was so very interested in you that he has gone to visit you of his own accord. 18 And we have sent along with him the brother who is praised in the gospel [ministry] throughout all the churches; 19 and not only this, but he has also been appointed by the churches to travel with us in regard to this gracious offering which we are administering for the glory of the Lord Himself, and to show our eagerness [as believers to help one another].

Whenever you are in a battle like this certain individuals show themselves to be true men of faith. They are an inspiration and an answer to prayer. Our desire is that the Lord would say "well done, faithful servant".

20 We are taking precaution so that no one will [find anything with which to] discredit us in our administration of this generous gift. 21 For we have regard for what is honorable [and above suspicion], not only in the sight of the Lord, but also in the sight of men.

BLM argued that they were not responsible for the riots and looting, that others were doing. But look at Paul, he realizes that if he is given a gift to give to those in distress you have to take regard for what is honorable, above suspicion not only in the sight of God but also in the sight of men. BLM would protest into the dark, the “Stop the Steal” rallies end before dark. ANTIFA thugs show up at these rallies with baseball bats and other weapons so the men at the “Stop the Steal” rally know it is there responsibility to be very visible about setting a safe perimeter.

22 We have sent with them our brother, whom we have often tested and found to be diligent in many things, but who is now even more diligent [than ever] because of his great confidence in you. 23 As for Titus, he is my partner and fellow worker in your service; and as for the [other two] brothers, they are [special] messengers of the churches, a glory and credit to Christ. 24 Therefore, show these men, in the sight of the churches, the proof of your love and our reason for being proud of you.

According to the prophecies at the time of the Day of the Lord

Isaiah 13:11 I will punish the world for its evil, the wicked for their sins. I will put an end to the arrogance of the haughty and will humble the pride of the ruthless.


This is the purpose of these lawsuits and rallies, this is what we are praying for. According to

Ezekiel 32:7 When I snuff you out, I will cover the heavens and darken their stars; I will cover the sun with a cloud, and the moon will not give its light. 8 All the shining lights in the heavens I will darken over you; I will bring darkness over your land, declares the Sovereign Lord. 9 I will trouble the hearts of many peoples when I bring about your destruction among the nations, among lands you have not known.


So you will know that the Day of the Lord has come because there will be total darkness over land. Interesting that on December 14th 2020 when the electoral college was selected in a nation they didn’t know there will also be a total solar eclipse over Chile, a land they didn’t know. There are many dreams and visions of a complete blackout taking place in the US when God judges the great Babylon.

Amos 8:9 “In that day,” declares the Sovereign Lord, “I will make the sun go down at noon and darken the earth in broad daylight. 10 I will turn your religious festivals into mourning and all your singing into weeping. I will make all of you wear sackcloth and shave your heads. I will make that time like mourning for an only son and the end of it like a bitter day.

That solar eclipse took place in the midst of a religious festival (Hanukkah). It began on December 11th with singing (for Biden’s victory?) and perhaps end two years later with mourning for an only son (Biden’s cutting a deal with the prosecutors concerning treason?).

Joel 2:10 The earth quaketh before them; the heavens tremble; the sun and the moon are darkened, and the stars withdraw their shining.


But wait, there is still more about this solar eclipse.

Joel 2:11 And Jehovah uttereth his voice before his army; for his camp is very great; for he is strong that executeth his word; for the day of Jehovah is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?

On this day the Lord utters His voice to His army to execute His word. It says “His camp is very great”. Will a great camp show up? An army that listens to the word that the Lord utters?

Luke 11:29 As the crowds increased, Jesus said, “This is a wicked generation. It asks for a sign, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah.30 For as Jonah was a sign to the Ninevites, so also will the Son of Man be to this generation.

Jonah walked the streets of Nineveh for 40 days protesting their unrighteousness. The Stop the Steal protests were first initiated on Nov 4th, protests walking the streets of the US protesting the unrighteousness of this election. That is the only sign the wicked generation gets for the Lord’s coming.

Luke 12:39 But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what hour the thief was coming, he would not have let his house be broken into. 40 You also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.”

What are the protests doing? We are preventing our house to be broken into by thieves. Wake up! The whole world lies in the evil one, the only way we stop the thief is by being one with Jesus.
 

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As the days of Noah

Jesus told us it would be as the days of Noah, but didn't say it wouldn't be in reverse. There is a lot of reason to say it will be in reverse.

1. Noah in reverse spells grace in Hebrew and this is the age of grace.

2. Jesus resurrected on the same day that Noah's ark came to rest on the Mountain that means "reverse the curse". The age of grace is all about reversing the curse.

3. For the last 2,000 years you have seen Jesus in the ark with the church. This is why it is called the church age.

4. At the time of Noah God said He would not judge the earth again with a flood but the next time would be with fire. Therefore you cannot possibly interpret the days of Noah to be a repeat of what we saw at Noah's time because the Bible says it won't be.

5. The Bible refers to the waters above the firmament in Genesis 1 referring to people who have been raptured. If you reverse the days of Noah after 150 days in the ark on the flood waters we would see the 40 days and nights of rain. However, this time, instead of water coming down out of heaven we will have water going back up into heaven -- the rapture.

6. The 40 days and nights of rain for Noah could be likened to 40 months of tribulation where the Christians are taken up into the heavens either by rapture or martyrdom. This is confirmed in Revelation with those who came out of the tribulation standing on the sea, they were taken out of the flood.

7. After these 40 months are up, then you get the wrath of God, that is the fire that God said would be the next judgement on the earth. This is likened to Christ and the church (Noah and the 7 souls) being in the ark for another 7 days.
 

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2Corinthians 9 -- I will not be on the wrong side of history

1 Now it is unnecessary for me to write to you about the offering [that is to be made] for the saints [in Jerusalem]; 2 for I know your eagerness [to promote this cause], and I have [proudly] boasted to the people of Macedonia about it, telling them that Achaia has been prepared since last year [for this contribution], and your enthusiasm has inspired the majority of them [to respond].

What we are seeing now is epic, historic, Biblical. You have a chance to be part of this. We have been preparing for this moment for the entire age of grace.

3 Still, I am sending the brothers [on to you], so that our pride in you may not be an empty boast in this case, and so that you may be prepared, just as I told them you would be; 4 otherwise, if any Macedonians come with me and find you unprepared, we—to say nothing of yourselves—will be humiliated for being so confident.


Once again the only reason we are reading this book and care about this book is because Paul was an apostle of Jesus Christ bringing a message from Jesus. The Lord has been boasting of us! He has said that when He comes He will find faith on this earth, He will find a great camp, the army of the Lord that hears his voice, obeys His command and will not allow their house to be broken into by thieves.

5 That is why I thought it necessary to urge these brothers to go to you [before I come] and make arrangements in advance for this generous, previously promised gift of yours, so that it would be ready, not as something extorted [or wrung out of you], but as a [voluntary and] generous gift.

Again, I don’t know that much about this particular event, but I do know that in my life and in this age the Lord has sent many brothers to us to make arrangements in advance. Every experience you have had from the Lord has prepared you for this day, every word shared with you by these brothers was to prepare you for this day.

6 Now [remember] this: he who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows generously [that blessings may come to others] will also reap generously [and be blessed].


Exactly, don’t lose your sense of humor! All these “prosperity” gospel preachers have drilled this point into our head, so now is the time for us to deliver on this word.

7 Let each one give [thoughtfully and with purpose] just as he has decided in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver [and delights in the one whose heart is in his gift].

Cheerful, joyful, triumphant giver. A giver marching around Jericho blowing the shofar and seeing the walls fall down!

8 And God is able to make all grace [every favor and earthly blessing] come in abundance to you, so that you may always [under all circumstances, regardless of the need] have complete sufficiency in everything [being completely self-sufficient in Him], and have an abundance for every good work and act of charity.


All jokes aside, lay every care on Him. Let’s pray that He would give us our daily bread.

9 As it is written and forever remains written, “He [the benevolent and generous person] scattered abroad, he gave to the poor, His righteousness endures forever!”


Now you have a chance to give an offering of yourself that will be righteousness and last forever!
 

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2Corinthians 9:10-15 The Spirit of Faith is an indescribable gift

10 Now He who provides seed for the sower and bread for food will provide and multiply your seed for sowing [that is, your resources] and increase the harvest of your righteousness [which shows itself in active goodness, kindness, and love].

This is the harvest. The angels will gather the weeds into bundles to be cast into the fire, and then they will gather the wheat into the barn, the rapture of the saints. Look around this is precisely what we are seeing. A congressman caught in a “close” relationship with a chinese spy. The same man who was so vocal in accusing Trump of colluding with Russia. Hunter Biden being investigated for fraud due to his dealings with China. Too many politicians and officials trying to obfuscate about their responsibility to deal with the fraud now caught in a lawsuit with 17 other states about them undermining the integrity of the US election. The Twitter files are implicating the DOJ, FBI and DHS, and demands to see the files from the JFK assassination are implicating the CIA. The weeds are being gathered into bundles to be cast into the fire.

11 You will be enriched in every way so that you may be generous, and this [generosity, administered] through us is producing thanksgiving to God [from those who benefit].

Thank you Lord! You hear our prayer, you will deliver us with a strong arm.

12 For the ministry of this service (offering) is not only supplying the needs of the saints (God’s people), but is also overflowing through many expressions of thanksgiving to God.

There are so many people overflowing in expressions of thanksgiving right now. This isn't simply for believers, but it is helping people around the world who are seeing through the tyranny, censorship and lies.

13 Because of this act of ministry, they will glorify God for your obedience to the gospel of Christ which you confess, as well as for your generous participation [in this gift] for them and for all [the other believers in need], 14 and they also long for you while they pray on your behalf, because of the surpassing measure of God’s grace [His undeserved favor, mercy, and blessing which is revealed] in you.

This is the gospel to love one another, to show mercy to one another, to welcome all including the outcasts, the chumps, the irredeemable and the deplorables.

15 Now thanks be to God for His indescribable gift [which is precious beyond words]!

All the slander that Christians have received, attacks because of these phony televangelists caught in sin, and accusations of being hateful towards others. This is a chance for the world to see the indescribable gift of Jesus Christ in our hearts.
 

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One more thing.

We received the Spirit on the day of resurrection when Jesus breathed into the disciples to receive the Holy Spirit. So then it would make sense that the baby would be born 9 months later which would be during Hanukkah.
 

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Another point

Revelation 2:22 Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their deeds.


The apostate church is likened to an adulterous wife. God is a righteous judge. You can't simply accuse your wife of adultery without proof. Now when will she be cast into this "sickbed". It reminds me of the Lord's word that two will be in a bed, one is taken as a close intimate friend and the other is left like a divorced adulterous wife. I have always wondered what "two in the bed" referred to. Was it husband and wife? It couldn't be adulterous bed or fornication, why would the Lord take either one. Does it mean that some will be sleeping at the time of the rapture? That seemed like a very weak interpretation since there is a trumpet blast that wakes the dead first, seems like everyone that is being raptured would be awake by then. But here we see a "sickbed". You could have two Christians in hospital beds, one is taken the other is left. Is this a reference to the pandemic?

If you compare the pandemic and the vaccine that was mandated, forced and coerced into taking to the story in the wilderness of the children of Israel being bitten by snakes the reason that God sent the snakes to them was they were murmuring about manna. The ones who are close intimate friends of the Lord spend time every day with Him in the word. The ones who are adulterous wives complain about spending time with Him in the word.

So my point is the Lord's rapture should ideally be at the optimum time to also expose the adulterous wife worshipping idols.
 

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“If You Don’t Want to Go in the Light – You’re Going to Try to Shut Off the Light Others Are Shining” – Fr. Pavone Responds to News of Dismissal by Vatican (VIDEO)

FR. FRANK PAVONE is one of the most prominent pro-life leaders in the world. Originally from New York, he was ordained in 1988 by Cardinal John O’Connor, and has dedicated his entire life and ministry to ending abortion. In 1993 he requested and received permission to serves as the National Director of Priests for Life, the largest pro-life ministry in the Catholic Church. He is also the President of the National Pro-life Religious Council, and the National Pastoral Director of the Silent No More Awareness Campaign and of Rachel’s Vineyard, the world’s largest ministry of healing after abortion. He travels throughout the country, to an average of four states every week, preaching and teaching against abortion. He broadcasts daily to hundreds of thousands of people on television, radio and online programs. Mother Teresa asked him to speak in India on the life issues. The Vatican appointed him to the Pontifical Academy for Life and to the Pontifical Council for the Family to help coordinate the pro-life activities of the Catholic Church. He was present at the bedside of Terri Schiavo as she was dying and was an outspoken advocate for her life. Members of Congress have invited him address the pro-life caucus, and to preach at the prayer service they had in the Capitol just prior to the vote on health care reform. (from the Priests for Life website)

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...pavone-responds-news-dismissal-vatican-video/

Do not buy into the whole lie about priests not being allowed to be "political". There are many leftists and even communists priests who do not get any flak.

John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
 

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PROPHECY-- VISION/ WORD THE HORSEMEN
 

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2 Corinthians 10:1-6 -- Weaponizing free speech

1 Now I, Paul, urge you by the gentleness and graciousness of Christ—I who am meek [so they say] when with you face to face, but bold [outspoken and fearless] toward you when absent!

So let’s talk about our speech, both when we are talking to people face to face and when we are writing and posting online.

2 I ask that when I do come I will not be driven to the boldness that I intend to show toward those few who regard us as if we walked according to the flesh [like men without the Spirit].

Anyone who posts online has been attacked (if you are standing for righteousness). My cousin called me an idiot and a psycho. Others are condescending. The tabernacle had a very thick skin for a covering and you need one too.

3 For though we walk in the flesh [as mortal men], we are not carrying on our [spiritual] warfare according to the flesh and using the weapons of man.

So let’s talk about our weapons versus the weapons of the flesh. The flesh will do personal attacks (idiot, psycho) and this is called an “ad hominem” attack and is the go to weapon for someone who has nothing else. When they do this it reminds me of the guy whose sword has just been demolished taking his shoe and throwing it at the person. For example, my cousin's comments came after his first comment where twice he spelled thee as the. You can’t spell the word “thee” yet you call someone else an idiot?

4 The weapons of our warfare are not physical [weapons of flesh and blood]. Our weapons are divinely powerful for the destruction of fortresses.

So truth is obviously critical, facts are critical, but neither of these are “tempered steel”. You can make a weapon out of iron and it is certainly much better than throwing shoes or having a sword out of cardboard, but it is still not as good as tempered steel. The word of God is tempered steel. But you can’t just use the Bible. What is totally awesome is when you mix the word of God with the facts, combine the two like a forged weapon. That will destroy fortresses.

5 We are destroying sophisticated arguments and every exalted and proud thing that sets itself up against the [true] knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought and purpose captive to the obedience of Christ, 6 being ready to punish every act of disobedience, when your own obedience [as a church] is complete.


So obviously a “sophisticated argument” is much better than to just call someone an idiot, or a “chump” (Joe Biden did that) or the “deplorables” (Hillary Clinton did that). The techniques they are using are extremely sophisticated so let’s explain. These technology platforms like Facebook, Youtube, TikTok, Twitter all have algorithms that recommend other content you might like. The goal is to get you “hooked”. So if you like cute cats you will see more videos of cute cats. But it is even more sophisticated, they will look at GPS data, see where you work, where you live, where you go throughout the day and then recommend content that people in your neighborhood and place of work like. But they also will begin to try and not just give you what you want but to manipulate you into wanting what they want you to want. China is the best at this which is why their apps are being seen as an attack on our state. So for example, let’s say I want you to like a candidate that the Chinese Communist Party prefers one candidate over another (they have manipulated and bribed this person in the past and know they can control them). There are things they can do, they can use TikTok to get many people to sign up for a rally that don’t show up to undermine their campaign. They can also send you stories they want you to read while not sending you the stories that might change your opinion about their candidate. They censor stories, claim they are fake news with their “fact checkers” and do many other things to manipulate what people see and believe. This is why many people did not know about the Hunter Biden laptop prior to the 2020 election. But here is their achilles heel, every word, every action they have taken is recorded. It is very easy to lie to people when they trust you but once they realize you have been lying to them everything changes. We can punish every act of disobedience that they have committed but only when the church’s obedience is complete. Otherwise the church gets caught up in the hypocrisy. Judgement begins with the house of God, the dross is removed and we are fashioned into a weapon that the Lord can use. For example, I have heard that the Texas AG’s lawsuit was motivated by some lawsuit that he is hoping the President will pardon him. Reminds me of something they once said about a man I admire more than any other, He was casting out demons and they said that He cast out demons by the prince of the demons. Oh, yea, an ad hominem attack, didn’t address the facts of the case at all.
 

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2Corinthians 10:7-18 The one whom the Lord commends

7 You are looking [only] at the outward appearance of things. If anyone is confident that he is Christ’s, he should reflect and consider this, that just as he is Christ’s, so too are we.

We need to be humble. If you have the truth, realize others can also have the truth. There are 350 million people in this country, I can believe that 3 million of them are “idiots” and “psychos” like my cousin thinks about anyone who disagrees with him, but 70 million? If I see 70 million standing up for something then I want to know what it is. Think about a herd of antelope, they don’t just look to see if they can see the lions, they react if any of the herd appear to have seen a lion.

8 For even though I boast rather freely about the authority the Lord gave us for building you up and not for destroying you, I will not be ashamed [of the truth], 9 nor do I want to seem to be trying to frighten you with my letters; 10 for they say, “His letters are weighty and forceful and impressive, but his personal presence is unimpressive and his speech contemptible [of no account].” 11 Let such people realize that what we say by word in letters when we are absent, is the same as what we are in action when present.

We have promises that “no weapon formed will prosper against you”. That refers to us being built up by the word of God. In chapter 2 Paul tells us that the Lord leads us around so that we always triumph. Not sometimes but always. That said the enemy likes to use human shields. Get my cousin for example so that if I destroy his argument I destroy him. This is why we need to get ourselves right with the word of God before the Lord comes. No one can stand before the sword of the Lord, get on the right side of that sword.

12 We do not have the audacity to put ourselves in the same class or compare ourselves with some who [supply testimonials to] commend themselves. When they measure themselves by themselves and compare themselves with themselves, they lack wisdom and behave like fools.

The arrogance that we have seen by some of these companies is stunning. “We called the election”. The media has no authority to “call elections”. They are behaving like fools. This is being fully revealed by an expose where someone recorded the daily editorial meeting at CNN for two months. They are playing these for the world to see and it is revealing an arrogant fool, they put themselves in a class all by itself “the most trusted name in news”, not anymore. CNN has crashed and burned since then. 75% of those working for Twitter back then have been forced to leave. Now we are watching as these leftists journalists melt down when the rules are applied to them. In one post they railed against being suspended for doxing someone, in another post they talked about how doxing someone was the worst evil there is.

13 We, on the other hand, will not boast beyond our proper limit, but [will keep] within the limits of our commission (territory, authority) which God has granted to us as a measure, which reaches and includes even you. 14 We are not overstepping the limits of our province, as if we did not [legitimately] reach to you, for we were the [very] first to come even as far as you with the good news of Christ.

They have clearly overstepped. All of the major media outlets along with Twitter and Facebook censored the story about Hunter Biden’s laptop. They said it was because it was “hacked”. It wasn’t hacked and just a week earlier they posted the story about Trump’s tax return everywhere, and that story was hacked. They claimed it was Russian disinformation so the Director of National Intelligence went on they record to make it very clear that it was not part of Russian disinformation, the laptop was Hunter’s and the evidence of criminality was authentic. But our news is about the gospel. What exactly is the gospel? Jesus is Lord, He is the king and He will return to judge the earth. That is the message here, and He will return much sooner than these people think. Do not overstep the limits of our province as ambassadors of Christ. My province is the gospel, Jesus died to cleanse you of your sins, all men are sinners and liars. The problem is not political, sin is not confined to "Democrats" or "Republicans" or "Rhinos" or "Antifa" or "BLM" or "Deplorables", etc.

15 We do not go beyond our proper limit, boasting in the work of other men, but we have the hope that as your faith [in Christ and His divine power] continues to grow, our field among you may be greatly expanded [but still within the limits of our commission], 16 so that we may preach the gospel even in the lands beyond you, but not to boast in work already accomplished in another one’s field of activity.
This is disgusting, boasting in someone else’s labor. During the debates Joe Biden boasted that if he were president he would bring this pandemic under control. He didn’t tell us how, only that he would do a much better job. After the election he did share his plan, everyone wears a mask. Wow! I am speechless, I had been wearing masks in NY since April. Maybe if he had come out of his basement he would have known that we are already doing this. Also he is giving everyone the vaccine! Really, his plan was to use the vaccine that the Trump administration had developed in record time, not only so but somehow take credit for it like this was his plan? On the other hand you see people talking about "Q". I have no idea who that is or what they are doing. I'm not interested in 4d chess, or some other arrogant boast. Project Veritas does investigative journalism, Revolver does investigative journalism, this is what I am interested in. I want the facts mingled with the word of God like tempered steel.

17 However, “Let him who boasts boast in the Lord.” 18 For it is not he who commends and praises himself who is approved [by God], but it is the one whom the Lord commends and praises.

I know that many Christians are very uncomfortable with mixing the bible with current events, especially about the powers that be. For two thousand years we walked around in a desert area where we never discussed the Pharaoh’s or the leaders of the five tribes in Canaan. It is like we have crossed the Jordan river and are now in their territory ready to dispossess them. Surely every Christian knew that this was where we were headed. You weren’t planning on staying in the wilderness forever, were you?

Consider Facebook, they thought they were a powerhouse when their stock was at $378 a share, now it is around $100 and they are facing multi billion dollar lawsuits.
 
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Agree with this post from Debbie&Walter here on the Rapture: https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...-rapture-doctrine-part-1.208911/#post-4984118

The Rapture is Post-Trib, not Pre-Trib. The Rapture and Resurrection of the Saints are one single event, as explained in 1 Thessalonians 4. Both happen simultaneously at the Lord's Second Coming.

1 Thess 4: The Rapture and The Resurrection of the Saints at the Lord's Coming:
13 Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. 14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.

Notice the "after that" in verse 17. That shows the Rapture is Post-Resurrection, at the Second Coming, and so Post-Trib.

Sorry to disappoint, but that's the harsh Truth. Of course it's not a Salvation issue, but those who expect otherwise will be disappointed ...

God Bless.
 

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Agree with this post from Debbie&Walter here on the Rapture: https://christianchat.com/bible-dis...-rapture-doctrine-part-1.208911/#post-4984118

The Rapture is Post-Trib, not Pre-Trib. The Rapture and Resurrection of the Saints are one single event, as explained in 1 Thessalonians 4. Both happen simultaneously at the Lord's Second Coming.

1 Thess 4: The Rapture and The Resurrection of the Saints at the Lord's Coming:
13 Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. 14 For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.

Notice the "after that" in verse 17. That shows the Rapture is Post-Resurrection, at the Second Coming, and so Post-Trib.

Sorry to disappoint, but that's the harsh Truth. Of course it's not a Salvation issue, but those who expect otherwise will be disappointed ...

God Bless.
Oh, so then you disagree with Revelation 3:3 and 3:10?