What Is The Gospel?

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I don't remember having that conversation with you but...

Are you saying that your sins aren't taken care of?
mine are ...because i used His Grace for what It is for ...to prevent new deliberate sin.
 
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You have no sin?
do i spit in GOD'S Face? no

The translators added the "a" sin. Stop trying to make all sin the same level of offence ...you do this to excuse the times you do death sin.

[1Jo 5:16 KJV] If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
[1Jo 5:17 KJV] All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
 

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do i spit in GOD'S Face? no

The translators added the "a" sin. Stop trying to make all sin the same level of offence ...you do this to excuse the times you do death sin.

[1Jo 5:16 KJV] If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
[1Jo 5:17 KJV] All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
I'm pretty sure sitting on God's throne, as if He gave it over to you, is blasphemy. That isn't any sort of low-level sin.
 

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What is the gospel that says needs to be preached to the ends of the earth so the end can come?
That what God PROMISED in Genesis, He had provided. According to Paul, Jesus, and Him Crucified covers it nicely.
 
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If you all agree JESUS is GOD ...why are you pretending He doesn't See your separation (sin) in the Relationship you should have with Him? Did you Walk through The Door and They now Abode in you ...or not?
imputed righteousness is from satan.
 

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Why is Jesus Christ considered "good news"?
By His blood, he has paid for the sin of the world and taken the payment onto himself for all. By His resurrection from the Dead, He is alive forevermore. Therefore, those who trust HIM can receive forgiveness of their sins and the gift of eternal life.
 

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Luke 2:8-12 . . Now there were shepherds in that region living in the fields
and keeping the night watch over their flock. The angel of The Lord
appeared to them, and the glory of The Lord shone around them, and they
were struck with great fear.

. . .The angel said to them: Do not be afraid; for behold, I proclaim to you
good news of great joy that will be for all the people. For today in the city of
David a savior has been born for you who is Messiah and Lord.

The angel announced the birth of a savior; defined by Webster's as one who
rescues.

Rescuing is what the Coast Guard does when boats capsize. Rescuing is what
Firemen do when people are trapped inside burning buildings or need to be
cut out of a crumpled car wreck. Rescuing is what mountaineer teams do
when climbers are in trouble. Rescuing is what EMT paramedics do when
someone needs to get to a hospital in a hurry and kept alive till they arrive.
Rescuing is what surgeons do when someone needs an organ transplant.

I could go on and on giving example of rescuer after rescuer; but I think we
get the idea. The New Testament's Jesus is like that: he rescues people from
the wrath of God-- people who not only fully deserve it, but definitely in line
to get it; and with no humanly possible way to avoid it.

Now; of what real benefit would the savior of Luke 2:8-12 really be to
anybody if he couldn't guarantee a fail-safe rescue from the wrath of God?
He'd be of no benefit to anybody. No; he'd be an incompetent ninny that
nobody could rely on.

But, if a savior were to be announced who guaranteed anybody who wants
it, a completely free of charge, no strings attached, guaranteed fail-safe, sin
proof, human nature-proof, Ten Commandments-proof, bad behavior-proof,
apostasy-proof, reprobate-proof, back-sliding proof, God-proof, Devil-proof
rescue from the wrath of God, and full-time protection from future
retribution; wouldn't that qualify as good news of great joy?

I think just about everybody concerned about ending up in the lake of
brimstone depicted at Rev 20:10-15 would have to agree with me that news
like that would not only most certainly be good; but also cause for
celebration, and ecstatic happiness.
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Revelation 3:20
“Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.”

Being able to sup with him depends upon being willing to both hear and heed his voice. It is we who must open the door.

God gave some ears to hear the gospel, and some he did not give ears to hear. (John 10:26-29)
 

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“but if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, ( action ) and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.( residue )

If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭1:7-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Mostly people who think they are sinless , aren’t able to acknolwedge tbier own sins because they won’t stand in the light

This is a small ray of the light

“But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not to take thy coat also.

Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again. And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.

Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall be given into your bosom.

For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.


And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: he is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.

But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:27-31, 35-38, 46-49‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“ sinless folk “ won’t hear this , those who have acknowledged thier own sins and shortcomings will embrace it and hold on forever

awhile the self righteous stand back and say of Jesus the savior “ he’s associating with sinners “

“Then drew near unto him all the publicans and sinners for to hear him.


And the Pharisees and scribes murmured, saying, This man receiveth sinners, and eateth with them.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭15:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

And this all applies to his sheep that hear his voice (John 10:26-29).
 

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Your one of those people that can’t hear because your always talking over the scripture you should hear what Jesus had to say to believers in him it will save believers

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.”
‭‭John‬ ‭12:48‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him. For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭5:9-11‬ ‭

when you go to face judgement your going to face what Jesus said about things

regarding repentance ?

“I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭13:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

regarding forgiveness of sin , judgement and condemnation of those who hear and believe

“For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: but if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭6:14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. ( children being taught) Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:
give, and it shall be given unto you;
good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall be given into your bosom.

For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:36-38‬ ‭

When you go to judgement Jesus isn’t going to ask you if your sinless he already knows you aren’t that’s why he came and died he’s going to judge you according to faith by the words of Christ Jesus in the gospel

a when it comes to sin Jesus is always saying the same thing “ I don’t condemn you now go and stop sinning “

He’s always saying “ repent and believe “ today , tomorrow and yesterday and also until the end of time

your in this boat also

“for all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:23‬ ‭

So you need to first accept this for yourself and everyone else

“What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

zincs you acknowledge that , then accept this for yourself and everyone else

“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin;

that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭5:21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭53:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭2:24-25‬ ‭KJV‬‬


It’s when we share Christ in the gospel with people and tell them to go to him and learn that they can hear this call

I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭5:32‬ ‭

It doesn’t happen when one sinner judges and brow beats other sinners as if they are holy and sinless themselves that just becomes a hypocracy and drives people away from the church

The scriptures are not written to those that cannot hear, and cannot discern spiritual things, but are written to those who have been born of the Spirit, instructing them how he wants them to live their lives as they sojourn here on earth.
 

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And this all applies to his sheep that hear his voice (John 10:26-29).
Exactly right and this is how he finds them and how they choose him and who is meant to hear it and to whom it applies

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;

but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

And then they who believe the gospel hear this and begin to learn from God being raised by the father

“It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.”
‭‭John‬ ‭6:45‬ ‭KJV‬‬

They learn first as babes being called forth as his children reborn and forgiven now it’s time we learn to walk and so the father teaches the babes

“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭

We believe the many things he himself says like this about all who believe in him will Be saved and it’s all true

And then we age a bit and he teaches the toddlers a lesson because they are growing up and need food so we grow in understanding because we believe the gospel and seek and abide in his word to learn ( we “ Christians “are disciples )

“Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.”
‭‭John‬ ‭6:29‬ ‭KJV‬‬

We grow from that type of statement , to this because we hear it and become able to hear more

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

This then leads us to start looking at what he was saying and teaching because we believe in him

and then his teachings make us grow up and mature over time and application

It’s when and where we learn bout being his children so we can start to believe it

“And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭23:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭12:32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.

Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom.

For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.


( them these kinds of statements by Jesus make us grow and challenge us ) And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:35-38, 46‬ ‭KJV‬‬

When we hear Jesus say things like that as believers it forces us to think about what he’s saying “ if he’s my lord , it means I’m supposed to be doing what he’s telling me I should do ? “ this changes us internally and is part of the call to repentance

he doesn’t say “ obey me now or die “ he is teaching believers by faith as they hear and abide the gospel speaking in parables and statements , questions to the hearers and believers examples and lesson stories we learn from over time when we start to grow better ears

he’s gentle and forebearing with us , patient and forgiving he wants us to live and not die because he’s our Father and loves us but we’re still free so he doesn’t force us
He just makes the way and says come home follow me

Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭11:28-30‬ ‭KJV‬‬

He teaches us like small children at first to believe in and trust in Jesus then he begins to teach us to learn from his word in the gospel , then Tells us we need to start doing what we’re learning and applying it to life , then he warns us about sin and teaches us to repent and have remission of sins so we can have a relationship with him eventually we become grown ups and can eat solid food and hear the teachings about righteousness in the gospel it’s a process of faith

“So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭10:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

faith grows from a seed and needs to go through a maturation process

“For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭1:16-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

That’s why Jesus says “ just come to me and learn from me I’ll teach you about the father” he’s creating children by faith in the gospel. So he says things like this

“After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: but if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭6:9-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Who would Know better about the father and his children than the son ?

He teaches us how to live and treat each other even when someone doesn’t treat us right. He teaches us what love truly is and to care for each other as brothers and sisters. He’s a father teaching his children in the perfect example of the son , Who is the lord of all Man and all
Heaven and has offered salvstion to every creature
 

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The scriptures are not written to those that cannot hear, and cannot discern spiritual things, but are written to those who have been born of the Spirit, instructing them how he wants them to live their lives as they sojourn here on earth.
who are you to determine anything like that ? It’s written to everyone who Jesus sent it to

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

you can attempt forever but can’t change that it’s for anyone who will believe in all the world some Will some won’t some will be saved some won’t

Its witnessed to all and available to all

“And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

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From what I gather, Jesus' cross made it possible for God to rescue folks
from the terrible scene depicted at Rev 20:11-15. Now the interesting thing
is: not everyone needs to hear and believe the gospel per Matthew, Mark,
Luke, and John to be saved; and in point of fact, there have been, there are
now, and there will be, thousands of folks totally unaware of Christ; yet
many of them will be spared simply by listening to a natural sermon.

The heavens declare the glory of God;
The skies proclaim the work of His hands.
Day after day they pour forth speech;
Night after night they display knowledge.
There is no speech or language
Where their voice is not heard.
Their voice goes out into all the earth,
Their words to the ends of the world.
Ps 19:1-4

Nature doesn't need the gift of tongues because just as music conquers all
language barriers, so does the sky. It speaks to the hearts of folks in every
culture and in every place on Earth; testifying to intelligent design and the
existence of a supreme being.

There's an angel on track to fly around the world preaching a gospel that has
no Christ, has no cross, has no resurrection, and has no church.

Rev 14:6-7 . . And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having
the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to
every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, announcing with a loud
voice: Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is
come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the
fountains of waters.

The angel's gospel is called everlasting because it's timeless; and God has
been saving people by it, still saving people by it, and will be saving people
by it in places where the gospel of Christ is unheard of and will never be
heard of.
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“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

The house of Israel represents all of God's chosen people. The biggest part of them turned away from God, and started worshiping idols, because of this God scattered them into all the world, and blinded their eyes that they could not see the truths contained in the gospel, until they repent, but God left in the midst of them a poor and afflicted people that trusted in the name of the Lord

The remnant of Israel shall do no iniquity, nor speak lies; neither shall a deceitful tongue be found in their mouth; for they shall feed and lie down, and none shall make them afraid. (Zeph 3:11-13.)

The remnant are instructed to go into all the world and preach repentance to the lost sheep of the house of Israel
 

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“It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.”
‭‭John‬ ‭6:45‬ ‭KJ

The "ALL" that shall be taught of God, are the "ALL" that comes to him, which are those that his Father gave him (John 6:37)
 

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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭

There is a "WORLD" that God loves, and there is a "WORLD" that God hates;

Rom 9:11 - Jacob have I loved, and Esau have I hated

Isaiah 13:11 - I will punish the "WORLD" for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity.

John 14:17 - Even the Spirit of truth, whom the "WORLD" cannot receive.

John 15:18-19 - If the "WORLD" hate you, ye know that it hated me, before it hated you. If ye were of the "WORLD" the "WORLD" would love his own, but because ye are not of the "WORLD" but I have chosen you out of the "WORLD" therefore the "WORLD" hateth you.

John 16:20 - Verly, Verly, I say unto you, that ye shall weep and lament, but the "WORLD" shall rejoice, and ye shall be sorrowful, but your sorrow shall turn into joy.

John 17:9 - I pray not for the "WORLD" , but for them thou hast given me.

John 17:14 - I have given them thy word, and the "WORLD" hath hated them.
 

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“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

God did not send his word to the natural man that could not discern it, but he sent it unto the children of Israel (Acts 10:37).