Is God asking you to give away everything?
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Didn't watch the video but 30 seconds. Likely, a Catholic priest. The Roman Catholics have divisions of the church which the clergy and nuns choose to affiliate with. Are you not aware of this? I assume you are RC. Do I assume wrong? Anyway, that probably makes for what seems to be an easy and desirable way for an individual to commit themselves. But is that Biblical? Maybe a thread on something like this would be good.
I have on occasion heard national news stories of individuals, not necessarily religiously affiliated, denying themselves and leaving significant sums to charity. Matter of fact, a fellow in AA, locally who I knew was like that. He left some money to AA and not sure of the bulk of it. Don't know if the video was going to be about something like this and I just am guessing.
I have on occasion heard national news stories of individuals, not necessarily religiously affiliated, denying themselves and leaving significant sums to charity. Matter of fact, a fellow in AA, locally who I knew was like that. He left some money to AA and not sure of the bulk of it. Don't know if the video was going to be about something like this and I just am guessing.
John 17:21...that all of them may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I am in them... I really have respect for these words. Jesus also said you will know my voice, and I believe I do. So as a consequence I feel at One with many Catholic Saints, and protestant great ones. I wrote a post that has the names of cathoic, orthodox, and protestant great ones that I know speak with His voice.
As a protestant I can see that it easy to become an expert on the Bible and know the meaning of every verse and still be a pharisee not knowing and loving God at all. There needs be a thorough knowlege of the word of God and loving the God of the word. I know the word and can recall a lot of it from studying it for 50 years or so. I also can say He has made me aware of the greatness of His love for me and that I know I love Him by His Spirit. It is very likely that Protestants that militate against other Christian's vociferously and angrily don't love Him and they don't have the love of Him in them. Is everything the Catholics, Orthodox, and Protestant (all 4000!) denominations say correct, of course not, thats why you have to know the scriptures well. This does not mean you should reject the Godly ones wherever they are. In the fundamentals one, in the peripherals we see darkly as the scriptures say. But the main idea is we should love those that are His and we have to know the difference!
I agree with the Catholics, and the Orthodox, we need to enter the narrow gate, be holy, be virtuous, not for salvation, but because we are saved. That is also consistent with the Book of James.
As a protestant I can see that it easy to become an expert on the Bible and know the meaning of every verse and still be a pharisee not knowing and loving God at all. There needs be a thorough knowlege of the word of God and loving the God of the word. I know the word and can recall a lot of it from studying it for 50 years or so. I also can say He has made me aware of the greatness of His love for me and that I know I love Him by His Spirit. It is very likely that Protestants that militate against other Christian's vociferously and angrily don't love Him and they don't have the love of Him in them. Is everything the Catholics, Orthodox, and Protestant (all 4000!) denominations say correct, of course not, thats why you have to know the scriptures well. This does not mean you should reject the Godly ones wherever they are. In the fundamentals one, in the peripherals we see darkly as the scriptures say. But the main idea is we should love those that are His and we have to know the difference!
I agree with the Catholics, and the Orthodox, we need to enter the narrow gate, be holy, be virtuous, not for salvation, but because we are saved. That is also consistent with the Book of James.
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Unfortunately, that's not what Roman Catholics teach. I don't know about Orthodox Catholics.
Council of Trent, Canons Concerning Justification, Canon 24:
Council of Trent, Canons Concerning Justification, Canon 24:
"If anyone says that the justice (righteousness) received is not preserved and also not increased before God through good works but that those works are merely the fruits and signs of justification obtained, but not the cause of the increase, let him be anathema."
In other words, Christ's death isn't sufficient. We have to keep increasing our righteousness by works or we may end up in Hell or Purgatory.
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Is the video a priest? Is it about money? I recall one video posted that almost certainly contradicts Biblical teaching and you never responded. I notice that people who post responses such as yours here starting with scripture are not willing to admit that all of us are at times incorrect in some way. Seems the Bible mentions forgiving seven times seventy.
Found it>>>>>Matthew 18:21 ¶ Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? 22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
Personally, my experience with Catholicism has been almost all negative and I do not care to involve myself with that religion. But I do get on better with my Catholic acquaintances than with protestants. That is a mind twister. If you have been at this for a long time why post videos that seem to contradict the Bible? I think that video of Rowan ???? was a post of yours. And then you just don't respond when I thought it was not Biblical. Which may be correct.
I am relatively new to the Bible and know that my understanding it is amiss at times. My prayers get answered and fortunately I have made contact with a protestant here locally. So far the only Christian I know with the exception of another 'protestant' that I talk to and know he is sincere but question his 'teaching'. The life I led as an agnostic was much simpler.
Found it>>>>>Matthew 18:21 ¶ Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? 22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
Personally, my experience with Catholicism has been almost all negative and I do not care to involve myself with that religion. But I do get on better with my Catholic acquaintances than with protestants. That is a mind twister. If you have been at this for a long time why post videos that seem to contradict the Bible? I think that video of Rowan ???? was a post of yours. And then you just don't respond when I thought it was not Biblical. Which may be correct.
I am relatively new to the Bible and know that my understanding it is amiss at times. My prayers get answered and fortunately I have made contact with a protestant here locally. So far the only Christian I know with the exception of another 'protestant' that I talk to and know he is sincere but question his 'teaching'. The life I led as an agnostic was much simpler.
I'm Catholic. Good Video. I've listened to Fr Mike before. He is a Bible Scholar and well known for his "Bible in a Year" Podcast which has helped many 10s of millions delve deeper into God's Word: "In The Bible in a Year podcast, Fr. Mike Schmitz walks you through the entire Bible in 365 episodes, providing commentary, reflection, and prayer along the way." https://www.amazon.com/Bible-Year-Fr-Mike-Schmitz/dp/B08JJTR8VV
I agree with what he said in the OP. I wish he had mentioned many, like Nuns and Monks (e.g. St. Francis of Assisi, St. Mother Theresa etc) did leave everything 100% to follow Jesus. Monks used to take a vow of poverty so that no one preaches the Gospel for the sake of money. Priests are not expected to do the same, unless they are Priests from Religious Orders (e.g. Benedictines, Dominicans, Franciscans etc), but Priests too are expected not to grow too rich, as those who live from tithes should not grow rich from them, generally speaking: “’I am to be the only inheritance the priests have. You are to give them no possession in Israel; I will be their possession." (Ez 44:22). This point is very often forgotten today.
I agree that not every Christian is required to leave everything behind, but all are expected to give 100% to Jesus. It is His money we own. It is His time to command us to what He wills with. Everything He has given us is His and to be used for His Glory and for the good of others according to our ability. The Rich Man in the Gospel was called to give 100%, and was promised Treasure in Heaven if he would. But he failed to do it. Some Church Fathers say he lost his Soul. Hence, the Lord soon after said, it is difficult for the rich to enter Heaven: "Mat 19:21-23: Perfection requires giving 100% to Jesus.
21Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”
22When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.
23Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”
I agree with what he said in the OP. I wish he had mentioned many, like Nuns and Monks (e.g. St. Francis of Assisi, St. Mother Theresa etc) did leave everything 100% to follow Jesus. Monks used to take a vow of poverty so that no one preaches the Gospel for the sake of money. Priests are not expected to do the same, unless they are Priests from Religious Orders (e.g. Benedictines, Dominicans, Franciscans etc), but Priests too are expected not to grow too rich, as those who live from tithes should not grow rich from them, generally speaking: “’I am to be the only inheritance the priests have. You are to give them no possession in Israel; I will be their possession." (Ez 44:22). This point is very often forgotten today.
I agree that not every Christian is required to leave everything behind, but all are expected to give 100% to Jesus. It is His money we own. It is His time to command us to what He wills with. Everything He has given us is His and to be used for His Glory and for the good of others according to our ability. The Rich Man in the Gospel was called to give 100%, and was promised Treasure in Heaven if he would. But he failed to do it. Some Church Fathers say he lost his Soul. Hence, the Lord soon after said, it is difficult for the rich to enter Heaven: "Mat 19:21-23: Perfection requires giving 100% to Jesus.
21Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”
22When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.
23Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”
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Btw that was Ez 44:28. Typo. Also in Num 18:20 and many other passages: "Then the LORD said to Aaron[the Priest], "You will have no inheritance in their land, nor will you have any portion among them. I am your portion and your inheritance among the Israelites."
Righteousness begins by Grace through Faith, just like when Abraham believed and it was credited to him as righteousness.
But the Bible says, Good Works done with Faith in Christ, complete and perfect righteousness, as Abraham became Complete and Perfect in Righteousness, by offering Isaac as a sacrifice on the Altar, proving he loved God with all his heart.
James 2: On Faith and Works:
"18 But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar?
22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
Righteousness begins by Grace through Faith, just like when Abraham believed and it was credited to him as righteousness.
But the Bible says, Good Works done with Faith in Christ, complete and perfect righteousness, as Abraham became Complete and Perfect in Righteousness, by offering Isaac as a sacrifice on the Altar, proving he loved God with all his heart.
James 2: On Faith and Works:
"18 But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar?
22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
Here is Fr. Mike Schmitz Day 353 of Day 365 in covering the Whole Bible in a Year:
"Fr. Mike shares how verse 1 Peter 3:15 about being ready to give a reason for the faith that is within us has been one of the most influential Bible verses for him. As we start reading 1 Thessalonians today, Fr. Mike also highlights how Paul is encouraged by the faith of the Thessalonians and stresses the importance of not only sharing the gospel but also sharing our very selves. Today's readings are 1 Peter 3-5, 1 Thessalonians 1-3, and Proverbs 30:15-16. We hear every day from our community how The Bible in a Year helps to capture hearts and souls for Christ."
"Fr. Mike shares how verse 1 Peter 3:15 about being ready to give a reason for the faith that is within us has been one of the most influential Bible verses for him. As we start reading 1 Thessalonians today, Fr. Mike also highlights how Paul is encouraged by the faith of the Thessalonians and stresses the importance of not only sharing the gospel but also sharing our very selves. Today's readings are 1 Peter 3-5, 1 Thessalonians 1-3, and Proverbs 30:15-16. We hear every day from our community how The Bible in a Year helps to capture hearts and souls for Christ."
Nice, Ebde. Me too. Being the Disciple whom Jesus loved, resting on His Heart, would be great. For that, we must love Christ like St. John loved, standing by Him at the Cross, with Mother Mary, and Mary Magdalene, even while other Apostles had fled. And Mary Magdalene is another person whom we can try to love God like, who publicly worshipped His Feet and wiped them with her hair, and so, among other rewards, was one of the first to see Him after His Resurrection from the dead.
God has Mercy on sinners, and rewards those who are faithful to Him, or who show Him Great Love in their daily lives. God Bless.
God has Mercy on sinners, and rewards those who are faithful to Him, or who show Him Great Love in their daily lives. God Bless.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_excommunicable_offences_from_the_Council_of_Trent
You picked and chose out of context
You picked and chose out of context
Trent: "Having, therefore, been thus justified, and made the friends and domestics of God, advancing from virtue to virtue, they are renewed, as the Apostle says, day by day; that is, by mortifying the members of their own flesh, and by presenting them as instruments of justice unto sanctification, they, through the observance of the commandments of God and of the Church, faith co-operating with good works, increase in that justice which they have received through the grace of Christ, and are still further justified, as it is written; "He that is just, let him be justified still"; and again, "Be not afraid to be justified even to death"; and also, "Do you see that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only." And this increase of justification holy Church begs, when she prays, "Give unto us, O Lord, increase of faith, hope, and charity."
http://www.thecounciloftrent.com/ch6.htm
Recently, Catholic Bishops and Lutheran Scholars signed a common declaration on the doctrine of Justification: "25.We confess together that sinners are justified by faith in the saving action of God in Christ. By the action of the Holy Spirit in baptism, they are granted the gift of salvation, which lays the basis for the whole Christian life. They place their trust in God's gracious promise by justifying faith, which includes hope in God and love for him. Such a faith is active in love and thus the Christian cannot and should not remain without works. But whatever in the justified precedes or follows the free gift of faith is neither the basis of justification nor merits it ...
38.According to Catholic understanding, good works, made possible by grace and the working of the Holy Spirit, contribute to growth in grace, so that the righteousness that comes from God is preserved and communion with Christ is deepened. When Catholics affirm the "meritorious" character of good works, they wish to say that, according to the biblical witness, a reward in heaven is promised to these works. Their intention is to emphasize the responsibility of persons for their actions, not to contest the character of those works as gifts, or far less to deny that justification always remains the unmerited gift of grace. " https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/joint-declaration-on-the-doctrine-of-justification-2356
http://www.thecounciloftrent.com/ch6.htm
Recently, Catholic Bishops and Lutheran Scholars signed a common declaration on the doctrine of Justification: "25.We confess together that sinners are justified by faith in the saving action of God in Christ. By the action of the Holy Spirit in baptism, they are granted the gift of salvation, which lays the basis for the whole Christian life. They place their trust in God's gracious promise by justifying faith, which includes hope in God and love for him. Such a faith is active in love and thus the Christian cannot and should not remain without works. But whatever in the justified precedes or follows the free gift of faith is neither the basis of justification nor merits it ...
38.According to Catholic understanding, good works, made possible by grace and the working of the Holy Spirit, contribute to growth in grace, so that the righteousness that comes from God is preserved and communion with Christ is deepened. When Catholics affirm the "meritorious" character of good works, they wish to say that, according to the biblical witness, a reward in heaven is promised to these works. Their intention is to emphasize the responsibility of persons for their actions, not to contest the character of those works as gifts, or far less to deny that justification always remains the unmerited gift of grace. " https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/joint-declaration-on-the-doctrine-of-justification-2356
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I didn't watch the video either.... what is YOUR opinion? Do you think Jesus wants us to get rid of all our "stuff" to follow him? If so, what scripture do you use to promote that view?
My opinion is that Jesus does NOT expect us to sell everything... that one example was used to show that the rich young man loved "stuff" more than he did Jesus.
As long as we keep things in the proper perspective, I don't see any indication that Jesus wants us to be destitute. How would anybody live that way?
Even the apostles were to depend on the generosity of believers when they were evangelizing.... how would they have been able to do that if all the believers had sold everything they had?
Sometimes you have to apply some common (God-given) sense.
My opinion is that Jesus does NOT expect us to sell everything... that one example was used to show that the rich young man loved "stuff" more than he did Jesus.
As long as we keep things in the proper perspective, I don't see any indication that Jesus wants us to be destitute. How would anybody live that way?
Even the apostles were to depend on the generosity of believers when they were evangelizing.... how would they have been able to do that if all the believers had sold everything they had?
Sometimes you have to apply some common (God-given) sense.
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