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I believe the forefathers were occultists and had the plan to bring the nations together to establish an occult world.

I believe America is really England and their sneaky way of getting their agenda out by America for the people would not trust England because they were going forth pushing for power so they would use America to get their agenda out in the world.

I believe the government ordered the rebellion because England wanted to change the world to an occult world instead of pushing Christianity which could of been the renaissance period that gave them a different outlook on reality.

Some people say we don’t try to suggest that nominalism was “under God”…it was aversion to the truth that already was known and taught, as I’d argue the Renaissance was.

Secularism was part of the renaissance because it exhibited itself in the development of humanism, when people began to show more interest in human cultural achievements and the possibilities of their fulfillment in this world.

In the renaissance, the church lost a lot of its power and there was more individualism.

But then the humanism gave way to more and more people going by the idea of humanism and not religious.

I believe England wanted to change the world to reflect the reality of humanism and stray away from religion and focus on it is about people more and they caused the rebellion in America so that they could use America to accomplish this purpose and to throw the world off guard that this is actually England that was trying to accomplish this.

And then when evolution started becoming popular they eventually started interpreting the Bible according to the occult and evolution, and people are still evolving to be spiritual, and Jesus is an ascended master, and there is no personal God, and the New Age Christ is the final teacher.

Which is the new age movement today which further humanism to add to their belief that is is about human endeavors not religion.

And so America with religious diversity and ethnic diversity would try to influence all religions and ethnic groups to be on board with this humanism that is slowly becoming more and more about people.

And try to convince the religions that all paths lead to God and then to eventually persuade them over to the new age movement that interpret all religions that they are evolving to be spiritual and godlike and there is no personal God.

Which they say the universe has a conscience and Alice Bailey wrote a book called The Consciousness of the Atom which she is the biggest prophet of the new age movement.

They believe they are doing the will of nature by establishing the new age movement in the world.

Which they believe the next evolutionary step will happen in the United States in the 21st century and spread to the world.

They do not believe the New Age Christ will cause them to evolve and have peace until the nations come together as one to work for peace on Earth.

Which they are working on a one world government and one world religious system.

The new age movement had a hand in the 1960's counter culture movement to get them away from the 1950's attitude.

Now they are ready to put them back together for they are ripe for the picking.

Which they have to put all people equal and make them feel accepting of each other and being accepted.

They have to knock down the white people and boost the black people, minorities.

They have to knock down the men and boost the women.

They have to knock down the religious, mainly Christian, and boost the atheist.

They have to knock down the heterosexual and boost the homosexual.

Which they push homosexuality in society for population reduction and to undermine Christianity.

They say no fat shaming and portray them as beautiful.

If you want to defeat your enemy you side with them and then change them slowly.

Like playing a song on a piano and the people say it is truth.

And then you change one note and let it play for a while and the people say it is truth.

And then change one note and let is play for a while and the people say it is truth.

Until it is a whole new song and the people say it is truth.

I believe the forefathers were of the occult and did not care for religion which would explain their cruelty and money hungry ways for they were not really displaying Christian ways.

I will say this is a theory for I do not really know but the new age movement is real and they are influencing to convince people that they are still evolving and there is no personal God.

And they will influence more as time goes on as they believe the next evolutionary step will happen in the United States first in the 21st century and that next evolutionary step is the new age movement to become enlightened to evolve along with the New Age Christ.

But it makes sense from the Renaissance period to the forefathers embracing secular humanism and only going along with Christianity because that is the only way they could get the nation to start and they had to have a nation of Christians so they could slowly change Christianity in its nation and spread to the world.

And when evolution came out since they were secular humanists they wanted to believe they are still evolving adding more to their secular humanist ways.

Like I said I will say it is a theory but the new age movement will influence America more as time goes on because they believe that is the next evolutionary step in the evolving of the human race.
Certainly God foresaw much of this behavior beginning 2000 years ago at the start of the church age.
As he prophesied the final revelation to fix everything was in the return of Jesus Christ or Lord and Saviour.

God pre-planned the whole scenario. Perhaps hoping man would see what was happening and more souls would be saved over a longer time period ? How many souls were saved at the flood ?

Rejoice for the time draws nigh.
 
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Fair enough. This is the only covenant any nation has with God, that they provide a secure place for Christians to thrive.


No he doesnt. Not even one.


One is just as bad as the other.
I suppose we see things thru different lenses.
Cahn exposed Biden for the monster he is. That's enough for me.
 

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Would you rather have a Mr. Cahn teach your elementary kids world history or some pro-LGBT teacher ?
I'd prefer Mr. Cahn admit he's a false prophet and false teacher. At least then he'd be telling the truth.
 
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I'd prefer Mr. Cahn admit he's a false prophet and false teacher. At least then he'd be telling the truth.
In a world lacking any form of Biblical doctrine Cahn's speeches can't be that bad can they ? Was he really that far off on the video posted on this thread ? IMO he applied Biblical doctrine quite well to the Biden. Reminder, Obama got voted in a 2nd term meaning a large percentage of the US population is travelling down a very non-Biblical path. It appears a desperate non-mitigatable situation that is not going to improve. Take what we can get.

Rejoice for the time draws nigh.
 

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Here's a classic example of Jonathan Cahn double-speak:

"But there are other possibilities. While nothing has to take place on or around this time, if something were to happen, a collapse or calamity could take place just before or after that weekend, or both before and after. It could also take place within the larger Elul-Tishri period surrounding Elul 29. Another possibility is that of a trigger event that takes place outside the time of the markets’ openings that could bring about a market collapse—as in the case of 9/11. And there is the possibility of a calamity taking place beyond and apart from the financial and economic realms, and yet which causes the collapse of both these realms." Mystery of the Shemitah, p. 239.​

Oookay. I could throw a dart blindfolded and probably do better than this; or just go to a psychic medium.
 

ResidentAlien

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IMO he applied Biblical doctrine quite well to the Biden.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. If Jonathan Cahn says a few things that are Biblically correct, that doesn't excuse all the misleading things he's said and written. The body of Christ has become way to tolerant of liars and opportunists.
 
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I suppose we see things thru different lenses.
Cahn exposed Biden for the monster he is. That's enough for me.
Biden did that himself
 
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Locoponydirtman name a few things cahn is in error about.
Comparing the passover to covid. Is a start. Then the nebulous prophecies as stated above, and the whole concept of america being in covenant with God.
This will be easier. I will post a video of someome giving a full biblical critique of con's garbage. That will be easier


Not that i even agree with all that these guys say, but they are spot on about john con.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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He claims also that God gave him a "down load" which is what how he wrote his books and that God cleared him to publish them. This would make his book equal to scripture. And that is a straight up lie.
 

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Cahn said there was going to be a "shaking" in 2020. In 2021, the "prophets" were in agreement there would be a "shaking" in 2022. Keep saying it long enough and eventually they'll get it right. LOL
 

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So the Passover is a type and shadow of COVID-19 because the Hebrews were told to hunker down in their homes to avoid the plague, like what happened with COVID-19? LOL, you can't make this stuff up. Apparently Cahn forgot it wasn't because they stayed inside that they were safe but because the blood was on their doorposts.

BTW, what's up with Jim Baaker? This guy is still around and people send him money? It's pretty sobering to know there are actually people out there who would do this.
 
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Cahn said there was going to be a "shaking" in 2020. In 2021, the "prophets" were in agreement there would be a "shaking" in 2022. Keep saying it long enough and eventually they'll get it right. LOL
Shaking is a false prophet buzz word. it can mean anything.
 
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So the Passover is a type and shadow of COVID-19 because the Hebrews were told to hunker down in their homes to avoid the plague, like what happened with COVID-19? LOL, you can't make this stuff up. Apparently Cahn forgot it wasn't because they stayed inside that they were safe but because the blood was on their doorposts.

BTW, what's up with Jim Baaker? This guy is still around and people send him money? It's pretty sobering to know there are actually people out there who would do this.
Yes, I agree. Cahn is stretching and making claims that are not Biblically based. No doubt. He is playing a dangerous game of deception thru false and manipulated interpretation of scriptures.(Let's sell books and get big-time interviews). His Harbinger illustrates the depravity. Locoponydirtman's videos made Con's game very clear. Lord Jesus please forgive me. Amen.
 
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Thank you. This video was a serious wake up call. I had no idea of Cahn's depravity. Those $5000 funky Prophet suits he wears do need funding, I should have known. He makes his money by mis-interpreting and reading falsehoods into scripture and events. The other video(Harbinger 2) really breaks down his game, antagonism earned.

Embarrassed

jamesp
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Thank you. This video was a serious wake up call. I had no idea of Cahn's depravity. Those $5000 funky Prophet suits he wears do need funding, I should have known. He makes his money by mis-interpreting and reading falsehoods into scripture and events. The other video(Harbinger 2) really breaks down his game, antagonism earned.

Embarrassed

jamesp
He brother, i am glad that you appreciate the information in the video.

There is no need for embarrasment.
 
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There is many truly prophetic Biblical events being fulfilled presently including the increase of false prophets at the end times.
One of the most common prophecies - The Bible warns that false prophets would arise many times in the end times. Deception will be a key theme up to and including the master, the antichrist, the greatest of all deceivers !