NEW CC Perspectives on Levels of Conspiracy & Corruption in 2020 Election, CV19 & DS Existence

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Was 2020 US Election Fraudulent AND was CV19 a Deep State Plandemic?


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PennEd

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Maybe Sole has finally seen the light, and realizes that although Trump did great stuff while President, he is so self centered, and makes everything about him, and whether something makes him look good.

This latest tantrum from him is truly disgusting, and really shows that all he cares about is how he is perceived.

Please don’t support him in any GOP primary.

 

SomeDisciple

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his latest tantrum from him is truly disgusting,
What are you talking about specifically that is disgusting? What do you want him to say "Sorry, everyone... everything the mainstream media says about me is correct, and everything is my fault."? lol. Seriously? Him standing up for himself- of all the things he has said- THIS is what offends you?
 

ZNP

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What are you talking about specifically that is disgusting? What do you want him to say "Sorry, everyone... everything the mainstream media says about me is correct, and everything is my fault."? lol. Seriously? Him standing up for himself- of all the things he has said- THIS is what offends you?
Why is he spreading misinformation about abortion. The Supreme court decision did not mean abortion was made illegal, it meant it was up to each state.

What lost the votes for Republicans was obvious and it wasn't abortion. You had Rinos who did not support Republicans who had a chance to win but were heavily out funded. Instead they wasted money on those who had no chance of losing or winning. The republican party is controlled opposition.

Imagine how many votes the Republicans would get if they were not against abortion? Would they pick up any democrats because of that? No. Would they pick up any independents because of that, perhaps. Would they lose any republicans/independents or MAGA because of that? Most definitely. They could easily lose 10% of their voters net, even after picking up a few independents.
 

SomeDisciple

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Why is he spreading misinformation about abortion. The Supreme court decision did not mean abortion was made illegal, it meant it was up to each state.
I don't see how he is spreading misinformation about abortion here... I agree with the second part of what you're saying, but I don't see what it has to do with what he said in this post.
Imagine how many votes the Republicans would get if they were not against abortion?
He didn't say they shouldn't be against abortion, he said they handled the issue poorly. Which they absolutely do. Lee Zeldin, for example, was tore apart by the media for his weakness. I rarely see a candidate speak persuasively about abortion.
 

ZNP

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I don't see how he is spreading misinformation about abortion here... I agree with the second part of what you're saying, but I don't see what it has to do with what he said in this post.

He didn't say they shouldn't be against abortion, he said they handled the issue poorly. Which they absolutely do. Lee Zeldin, for example, was tore apart by the media for his weakness. I rarely see a candidate speak persuasively about abortion.
The point to me is not about Trump. The point is that you will never get a place where righteousness dwells with this political system. The essence of politics is compromise and that means compromise with sin.

That is the problem. Freedom off religion means freedom to have pagan, satanists, FreeMasons, and all the rest. This is the field where Jesus planted wheat and His enemy planted tares.

Trump can be an instrument in the Lord's hand to bring His judgment on the swamp, but he is not going to be able to do anymore than that.
 

SomeDisciple

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The point is that you will never get a place where righteousness dwells with this political system.
I'm not sure I know exactly what you mean, but the objective of government is not to be the church; and it's not my objective to make it the church; but that doesn't mean we don't try to improve government with the authority and ability that we have.
The essence of politics is compromise and that means compromise with sin.
That is just non-sense to me; if you can persuade someone to agree with you, then there is no compromise to be made.
That is the problem. Freedom off religion means freedom to have pagan, satanists, FreeMasons, and all the rest.
Yes, people are free to be those things; but that doesn't mean they have to, or that they can't be moved.
Trump can be an instrument in the Lord's hand to bring His judgment on the swamp, but he is not going to be able to do anymore than that.
I don't know that he will even be able to do that... but I also don't know if that is all he is limited to doing, either.
 

ZNP

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I'm not sure I know exactly what you mean, but the objective of government is not to be the church; and it's not my objective to make it the church; but that doesn't mean we don't try to improve government with the authority and ability that we have.
I agree that if someone is a civil servant or an elected official they should do all as unto the Lord. What I mean is that this world has both wheat and tares, they have grown together and now it is very clear we are seeing the fruit. It is time to harvest. The tares seek to become management and they don't care if they are competent or not. One rule the freemasons have is to promote other freemasons which is why they flash each other the hand signs. It is also why these rulers and leaders could care less what the 99% think, and why they are arrogant enough to not care if we know they are lying and stealing. On January 6th it was clear there weren't 50 righteous people in the federal government. The trials, the elections, the judges have all proven we can't even find 10 righteous people. Therefore elections don't matter. The freemasons fill all the positions of power, they will slander anyone who isn't a freemason, they promote anyone who is. As a teacher it was very clear who the best teachers were and who the least competent were and yet for some reason there were so many incompetents who were promoted. Seventy years ago the US had the best public school system in the world, and now it is the worst for the money without any question. This is because corrupt and incompetent people get promoted to positions of power and use it for power and wealth. Fauci is a FreeMason, highest paid public servant in the Federal government and yet it is a small fraction of what he makes from the drug companies, and that is only the money he reports. But here is their problem, they are greatly outnumbered and they are incompetent. We can do just fine without them, but they can't do anything without us. That is the point of the pandemic and the vaccine. On one hand they want to greatly reduce the numbers of the non Freemasons, replacing many workers with robots, AI, and cyborgs. At the end of the age the Lord sends forth the angels to reap. The Freemasons know this and they also want to send forth their angels to reap.

That is just non-sense to me; if you can persuade someone to agree with you, then there is no compromise to be made.
That is just the blind leading the blind to me. There are many people who absolutely will not agree with you. Abortion is essential to Satan, to the demons, to the worshippers of Baal and Moloch, to the sorcerers, etc. They will do whatever it takes and you will not reason with them.

Yes, people are free to be those things; but that doesn't mean they have to, or that they can't be moved.
The way you deliver people from Satan's kingdom is by prayer and the gospel. Reasoning with them and voting are completely ineffective.
 

Solemateleft

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Solemateleft

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X22 Report - The Deep State & Dem's Have Lost Control! Patriots In Control! Did Trump Just Hint At Something? Boom! - Must Video
Tuesday, January 3, 2023 18:57

The [DS] has lost control, they do not control the narrative, the investigation and information is coming at them from all directions. The [DS] is now panicking. Trump his hinting that there might be another party needed if the establishment does not fall in line. Election fraud is being pushed out into the public realm and more and more evidence is being produced. Booms are coming.
 

Solemateleft

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For those who may still unknowingly be suffering from TDS, suggest unplugging from MSM, and even your favorite Youtubers who have NEVER been CENSORED ... and tune into Truth Social, and Twitter to learn the TRUTH...
X22 Report - Public Is Learning The Truth! Trump Was Right About Everything! Castle Cleaning In Progress! - Must Video
Monday, January 2, 2023 18:31

The [DS] is feeling pain every single day. The pain is going to get worse as time goes on. The public is learning the truth and the Fauci files are about to come out. Everything that is happening shows the fake news, other government agencies lied to the American people and Trump told the truth. The swamp is now being drained, optics are good. The drip of information is about to turn into a flood of information.
 

Solemateleft

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Regarding the NFL Monday Night Football hit and collapse...
I played DB... That was a solid and normal hit and tackle... The DB bounced back up immediately, even bounced up... before falling back... similar to so many other athletes in other sports that have been seen falling backwards on the field... many suspect that the volume of athletes collapsing in this way is statistically significant than any years in the historic past... Which many suggest, might be associated with the Vax... There is enough data - to consider this hypothesis before ruling it out only because it is what the CDC and the MSM have been telling you over the past couple years...
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gb9

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while the vax is most likely the cause of some of these, we do need to be careful not to blame all of these on the vax, because we do not know.
 

Solemateleft

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while the vax is most likely the cause of some of these, we do need to be careful not to blame all of these on the vax, because we do not know.
Agree... the point being that the VAX should NOT be ruled out until it has been ruled out via a credible scientific means beyond just the gaslighting from the Left...
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ZNP

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Agree... the point being that the VAX should NOT be ruled out until it has been ruled out via a credible scientific means beyond just the gaslighting from the Left...
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Yes, to assume this is like a kid being hit in the chest by a fast ball is gas lighting. It is very improbable. First, when you tackle someone as he did you do not get drilled in the chest, also unlike baseball the shoulder pads protect your chest. that is why it has never happened before in the history of the NFL. So to assume that is what happened is simply gas lighting.

On the other hand noticing the incredible spike in deaths among young healthy athletic people since the vaccine, that is fact, it is not gaslighting and to not question what is going on would be idiotic.
 

Solemateleft

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gb9

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Agree... the point being that the VAX should NOT be ruled out until it has been ruled out via a credible scientific means beyond just the gaslighting from the Left...
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yes, i agree.

but, when conservatives blaming every sudden medical event on the vax, that just gives the left more ammo to gaslight and deny the vax side effects...
 

Solemateleft

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Yes, to assume this is like a kid being hit in the chest by a fast ball is gas lighting. It is very improbable. First, when you tackle someone as he did you do not get drilled in the chest, also unlike baseball the shoulder pads protect your chest. that is why it has never happened before in the history of the NFL. So to assume that is what happened is simply gas lighting.

On the other hand noticing the incredible spike in deaths among young healthy athletic people since the vaccine, that is fact, it is not gaslighting and to not question what is going on would be idiotic.
As a former defensive back and judo player/coach... If you watch the Monday Night Game and replay - watch his feet and his upper body motion during the tackle... While the Receiver appears to land a very good momentum hit... upon further review, the DB planted his feet and pulled the ball carrier around in a motion that essentially averted taking the brunt of the blow head on an directly to the chest...
Unlike someone who might get hit from a Fast Ball, watch him Bounce right up from the momentum of his swinging action/tackle... he even had an extra bounce as if to celebrate his tackle before he falls backwards...
I'm not a Dr., but IMHO the impact to his chest triggered the cardiac arrest - that under normal circumstances - would have been an unremarkable event - if not for the contributions from the (new variable) vax upon his nervous system...