Bobby Collier & the Good God Ministries

[SonLight_Wolf]

Anyone heard of this?

He proposed there are two God's in the old testament.
Father God. And Satan, who was YHWH or, Jehovah.

And this is why the savagery exhibited by God, Satan, YHWH, Jehovah, in the old testament is proof that was not the God of Jesus.
Jesus once told the Jews, your God is not my God.

Because Jesus came to save us from the grip of that God, this worlds God, whom we are controlled by in our natural state. Which is why Jesus so often countered the ordinances of YHWH.

Example, eye for an eye. Jesus said, I know you've been told an eye for an eye but I tell you, love your enemies.

Has anyone heard of this ministry?

Thank you for your perspective.

 

[maxwel]

FAULTY PREMISE:
As a starting place, we're building arguments on a faulty premise when we talk about the "savagery" of God in the O.T.
A.) It is ridiculous to use our corrupt minds, and our corrupted morals, to pass judgement on the morality of an infinite God.
B.) We generally don't even understand the context of the passages we're reading... 90% of confusion is cleared up just through proper study.


FOOD FOR THOUGHT:
1.) The phrase "eye for an eye" had nothing to do with poking out people's eyes... it was rather a basis for measuring liability and restitution.
If you don't understand that, you need to read some good commentaries on it.
* It's not God's fault if we read a passage, without proper study, and misunderstand it.

2.) I would challenge anyone to find any "savagery" committed by God in the O.T., which is not either a misunderstanding of the text, or a misunderstand of God's nature, which is that of perfect holiness and perfect justice.
* Again, it is not God's fault if we read a passage, without proper study, and fail to understand it, or if we fail to understand the sovereignty or holiness of God.

3.) If you want to make some distinction between the "mean God of the OT" and "kind God of the NT"... then you really haven't studied either the OT or the NT. You should give some thought to all the pronouncements Christ made about hell, and all the destruction and devastation pronounced in the book of Revelation... then go back and examine all the passages about mercy in the OT.
- There are not 2 Gods... there are just people who fail at their study and understanding of the ONE GOD.

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[Nehemiah6]

Thank you for your perspective.

I do not watch posted videos, but it seems that here is another wolf in sheep's clothing. There are quite a few out there. God and Christ are the same from Genesis to Revelation but Satan wants to make sure people are thoroughly confused.

 

[SonLight_Wolf]

Thanks for the opinions guys. Much appreciated.

 

[Avestan]

I’ve been watching his videos. They are extremely well researched and he presents only scripture with very little interpretation. What he shows does resonate with reservations I have had my entire life yet it always appeared that no one was ever brave or honest enough to say. The problem I experience is that of deep isolation. The facts are plain to see yet the vast majority are blind to it. It feels as if being a true Christian is like being the only living person you know among a city full of zombie like people. Zombies who feel justified in lying, stealing and destroying whenever they can get away with it. It is distressing.