Sheep, and wolves

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

zone

Senior Member
Jun 13, 2010
27,214
164
63
#21
She does not have to listen to me, I am not Jesus.
right.
so stop posting threats and words from the spirit that you tell us is jesus.
it's demonic.
 

VW

Banned
Dec 22, 2009
4,579
9
0
#22
But you don't literally hear His voice, do you VW ? And when we read your latest words of the Lord here on this forum, we're not hearing your words either, literally speaking. We're reading them. So,.....what is a "hardened heart" according to you but those of us who disbelieve that you are a prophet of God ? Does our reading of God's inspired word and not accepting yours as from Christ Himself mean that we are of hardened hearts ? Does unbelief in VW equate to unbelief in God ? It has to, ....doesn't it ? Because if it doesn't, then where does that leave you ? So be it.
It has nothing to do with me or with believing me. It has everything to do with believing in Jesus, and in believing in His Holy Spirit. It has everything to do with developing a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, and through Him with the Father. And if you are unwilling or unbelieving and will not do this simple thing, which is why Jesus came and died, so that we might have this opportunity, then your judgement is just.
 

VW

Banned
Dec 22, 2009
4,579
9
0
#23
right.
so stop posting threats and words from the spirit that you tell us is jesus.
it's demonic.
God forgive you. I ask His mercy for you.

Jesus is Lord and Master of all.

He is risen, never to die again, to eternal life.

He is the High Priest, the One who leads us to the Father, to know Him and to love Him and to hear His voice.

He is not a demon.
 

zone

Senior Member
Jun 13, 2010
27,214
164
63
#24
God forgive you. I ask His mercy for you.

Jesus is Lord and Master of all.

He is risen, never to die again, to eternal life.

He is the High Priest, the One who leads us to the Father, to know Him and to love Him and to hear His voice.

He is not a demon.
don't be silly.

and anyways....you're not a very good actor VW....why not just repent, tell us you made a mistake and come into the church?

i said people who claim to be prophets who post first person CHANNELLED messages claiming they come from Jesus is involved in demonic activity.
 

VW

Banned
Dec 22, 2009
4,579
9
0
#25
don't be silly.

and anyways....you're not a very good actor VW....why not just repent, tell us you made a mistake and come into the church?

i said people who claim to be prophets who post first person CHANNELLED messages claiming they come from Jesus is involved in demonic activity.
Actually, what you did was call me a devil. I remember.

I am not acting. I did not channel a message. I gave a word. Simple as that. And for that you called me a devil.

The word was to you. You say that you believe Him, that you are a member of His body, a sheep of the Master. But you do not hear His voice. How can you be a sheep of Jesus if you cannot hear His voice?

You cannot.
 
A

Abiding

Guest
#26
Again, I ask you, who are the sheep?

Do His sheep hear His voice? We know that wolves do not hear His voice. And we know that wolves rend and tear and attack. Sheep do not.

You do not like my words. That is your prerogative. That does not give you the right to judge me. That is not your prerogative. Judge the words, fine, that you can do, but if you judge me you have gone against the word of God. His written word.

You like to quote this passage from Peter's second letter, but I don't like the translation you use.

2) And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be maligned; and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgement from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.

I don't teach sensuality, but rather against it. I am not greedy, rather I am exceedingly giving. I care not to receive anyone's money, and have never asked for any money for anything that has to do with God.

But I take offense that you compare me to those who deny Jesus Christ, my Master, who bought me with His life. Who deny Him but those who refuse to hear His voice, who harden their hearts against Him?

Well, we know the answer to that.

VW, zone hears His voice quite clearly, but in the sense that the Holyspirit intended for it to mean, and in
the sense Jesus meant it to mean. So here you are again, blowing you shofar, telling of your good works. and spiritualality, hmm...Ya know if your gona make confrontational, and alluring threads, and lure people
in the ring, take your cuts like a man and quit your wimpering when ya get the boot.
 
U

unclefester

Guest
#27
It has nothing to do with me or with believing me. It has everything to do with believing in Jesus, and in believing in His Holy Spirit. It has everything to do with developing a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, and through Him with the Father. And if you are unwilling or unbelieving and will not do this simple thing, which is why Jesus came and died, so that we might have this opportunity, then your judgement is just.
It has everything to do with you. If we disbelieve that your words are verbatim from Christ, this means that we don't believe in Jesus and His Holy Spirit. Why does it trouble you so that we can say with confidence that we love our God with all our hearts and soul and that we are His without believing that you are His prophet ? If it's not about you, then where is the problem ?
 
G

giantone

Guest
#28
Sheeps go to the sheep shed. (to Church)

Wolves go to the same place and have an extra fluffy wool coat that they wear, They look more like sheep than the sheep.

Sheep go bahhhh.

Wolves are loud and go BAHHHHH, and HALLELUJAHHHHH!

Sheep follow God and wolves lead away from God.

And then you got dogs who corrupt everything peeing on the pews and walls and doing what dogs do. they also like to heard sheep as well so they can teach them tolerance and niceness.

It's an animal house out there I tell you. an animal house.
 

zone

Senior Member
Jun 13, 2010
27,214
164
63
#29
Actually, what you did was call me a devil. I remember.

I am not acting. I did not channel a message. I gave a word. Simple as that. And for that you called me a devil.

The word was to you. You say that you believe Him, that you are a member of His body, a sheep of the Master. But you do not hear His voice. How can you be a sheep of Jesus if you cannot hear His voice?

You cannot.
i don't hear His voice coming from you if that's what you mean.
 
Jul 3, 2011
2,417
5
0
#30
One thing I know about sheep and wolves. Although wolves may pretend to be sheep, a sheep would never pretend to be a wolf. So when you see someone acting like a wolf dismissing, twisting, correcting or rejecting God's word they are wolves not sheep.
 

zone

Senior Member
Jun 13, 2010
27,214
164
63
#31
One thing I know about sheep and wolves. Although wolves may pretend to be sheep, a sheep would never pretend to be a wolf. So when you see someone acting like a wolf dismissing, twisting, correcting or rejecting God's word they are wolves not sheep.
that's right.
we know who the wolves are.
 

VW

Banned
Dec 22, 2009
4,579
9
0
#32
VW, zone hears His voice quite clearly, but in the sense that the Holyspirit intended for it to mean, and in
the sense Jesus meant it to mean. So here you are again, blowing you shofar, telling of your good works. and spiritualality, hmm...Ya know if your gona make confrontational, and alluring threads, and lure people
in the ring, take your cuts like a man and quit your wimpering when ya get the boot.
She says that she does not hear His voice.

You are interpreting the scripture to suit your beliefs.

Sheep do not rend and tear. Wolves do. Do you deny this?
 

VW

Banned
Dec 22, 2009
4,579
9
0
#33
Sheeps go to the sheep shed. (to Church)

Wolves go to the same place and have an extra fluffy wool coat that they wear, They look more like sheep than the sheep.

Sheep go bahhhh.

Wolves are loud and go BAHHHHH, and HALLELUJAHHHHH!

Sheep follow God and wolves lead away from God.

And then you got dogs who corrupt everything peeing on the pews and walls and doing what dogs do. they also like to heard sheep as well so they can teach them tolerance and niceness.

It's an animal house out there I tell you. an animal house.
the church is made up of the sheep, it is not a place that they go.

And wolves rend and tear, sheep do not.
 

VW

Banned
Dec 22, 2009
4,579
9
0
#34
i don't hear His voice coming from you if that's what you mean.
I dont remember telling you that you had to hear Him through me. Just that you had to hear His voice.

That is scripture, not something I made up.
 

VW

Banned
Dec 22, 2009
4,579
9
0
#35
One thing I know about sheep and wolves. Although wolves may pretend to be sheep, a sheep would never pretend to be a wolf. So when you see someone acting like a wolf dismissing, twisting, correcting or rejecting God's word they are wolves not sheep.
Wolves do not attack God's word, they attack His sheep.
 

zone

Senior Member
Jun 13, 2010
27,214
164
63
#36
I dont remember telling you that you had to hear Him through me. Just that you had to hear His voice.
1) get real
2) really? audibly?
 

zone

Senior Member
Jun 13, 2010
27,214
164
63
#38
Wolves do not attack God's word, they attack His sheep.
really? you've attacked His Word by ignoring the warning of Rev 22 (adding to it):

Anyone who has the gift of prophecy, or has been called as a prophet, will understand when I say that I did not want to make this post. But the voice of the Lord is not insistent, but rather quietly leading one to do as He wishes. I have from the Lord that I am not to answer critical words any more. So, in obedience to Him, hear these words or not.

In Christ

The testing has started. The dross will be removed from the gold and silver. Those who will not come to Me will not get many more chances. Those who lie about Me will grow even harder in their hearts. Those who do not love Me will go astray, and stumble, and fall. And My servants will prevail, just as I prevailed.

I set a choice before you, with a question. Do you love Me? Will you follow Me? Will you become My servants? Or will you continue to love the knowledge of Me? Will you still follow what you believe? Will you still serve yourself and your pride? Will you live in Me?

Not all that you believe is from Me. And not all that you do is pleasing in My sight. And not all that you say or think is of faith. But My servants will not be so in the days to come. Everything they believe will be from Me, and they will speak My words, and they will do the things that are pleasing in My sight. And I will love them.

I hate your assemblies. I loath your offerings. I despise your service. Your prayers I do not hear, because they are for your own lusts. Your hands are dirty, and your lips have become numb. Your ears do not hear, nor do your eyes see. Who among you has a soft heart? Who is seeking truth in My Father's presence? Who has lost themselves for Me and to Me? Who has lost every other love, to know My love? Who has become My servant?

I am coming quickly. I am coming with a sword. I am coming to make war, to make an end, a complete ending of all the lies. I am coming to reward My servants, and to gather those who love My appearing. Will you be ashamed at My appearing, or will you have great joy? Either way, I am coming quickly.
and you've attacked His sheep by threatening them, telling them Jesus hates their assemblies, loathes their offerings, despises their service.

you've blasphemed His Name by saying this is from Him.

you've attacked His sheep by telling them this is Jesus saying He doesn't hear their prayers.

i can't think of what a wolf would look and sound like if this isn't it.

ANYWAYS.......I'M DONE WITH YOU.

THE MODS CAN DO AS THEY SEE FIT.
 

VW

Banned
Dec 22, 2009
4,579
9
0
#39
If the sheep have been lied to and mislead, it is by the false shepherds, who themselves cannot hear God's voice, and another comes in the name of the Lord and warns of the disaster, that is not a wolf. But if one denies that there is judgment coming, which as scripture records for us that it begins with the house of God, and that if the righteous barely be saved, then what of the unrighteous and the sinner, and they instead decry and demonize the servant, who is the wolf?

As for the mods, they are not concerned, as they have not seen fit to censure you for your continued name calling and attacks of a personal nature against everyone who does not believe as you.

I came back because you were having too much fun attacking others, so I put myself in your sights again, to distract you from those others.

Take your best shot.