How many persons & wills are in Jesus Christ?

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How many persons & wills are in Jesus Christ? off the top of my head, not sure I am right.

Jesus Son of God one person John 8:58,10:30, Acts 3:15, Gal 4:4,

Who is Nestorius? What dis Cyril of Alexandria write on this topic? Councils of Ephesus 431, Chalcedon 457? What is Hypostatic Union? Luke 2:42, John 6:38, 4:34, Phil 2:8, Romans 5:19, Hebrews 10:9, Matt 26:39.

Google newadvent.org "he is perfect" results

https://www.newadvent.org/summa/4007.htm

https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/130106.htm

https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/02091.htm

https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/230207.htm

https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/3811.htm

https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/330201.htm

https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/30111.htm

https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0607.htm

https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/1012.htm

https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/240213.htm

https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/33041.htm

<ctrl> F "he is perfect" to find the quotes.

Common Works of God, please complete:



Incarnation

Father Heb 10:5, Son Phil 2, Holy Spirit Matthew 1:18, Luke 1:35



resurrection of Jesus

Father Acts 3:15

Jesus John 10:17-18, John 2:19-21

Holy Spirit Romans 1:4



Six other common works here https://theologyontheground.com/the-trinity-in-the-resurrection/



Jesus is worshippped as God, Matthew 28:9,17, John 1:17-18, 5:23, 8:55, Phil 2:10



I remember that Jesus knows the "hearts of people", don't remember the verses.



knowledge learned and has as God Col 2:3, I Cor 1:24, 2:7



What is pesher-fashion method used by adoptionist teachings?
 
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Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the Catholic Faith. Which Faith except everyone do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. And the Catholic Faith is this, that we worship one God in Trinity and Trinity in Unity. Neither confounding the Persons, nor dividing the Substance. For there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Ghost. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Ghost is all One, the Glory Equal, the Majesty Co-Eternal. Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Ghost. The Father Uncreate, the Son Uncreate, and the Holy Ghost Uncreate. The Father Incomprehensible, the Son Incomprehensible, and the Holy Ghost Incomprehensible. The Father Eternal, the Son Eternal, and the Holy Ghost Eternal and yet they are not Three Eternals but One Eternal. As also there are not Three Uncreated, nor Three Incomprehensibles, but One Uncreated, and One Incomprehensible. So likewise the Father is Almighty, the Son Almighty, and the Holy Ghost Almighty. And yet they are not Three Almighties but One Almighty.

So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not Three Gods, but One God. So likewise the Father is Lord, the Son Lord, and the Holy Ghost Lord. And yet not Three Lords but One Lord. For, like as we are compelled by the Christian verity to acknowledge every Person by Himself to be God and Lord, so are we forbidden by the Catholic Religion to say, there be Three Gods or Three Lords. The Father is made of none, neither created, nor begotten. The Son is of the Father alone; not made, nor created, but begotten. The Holy Ghost is of the Father, and of the Son neither made, nor created, nor begotten, but proceeding.

So there is One Father, not Three Fathers; one Son, not Three Sons; One Holy Ghost, not Three Holy Ghosts. And in this Trinity none is afore or after Other, None is greater or less than Another, but the whole Three Persons are Co-eternal together, and Co-equal. So that in all things, as is aforesaid, the Unity in Trinity, and the Trinity in Unity, is to be worshipped. He therefore that will be saved, must thus think of the Trinity.

Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting Salvation, that he also believe rightly the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ. For the right Faith is, that we believe and confess, that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and Man.

God, of the substance of the Father, begotten before the worlds; and Man, of the substance of His mother, born into the world. Perfect God and Perfect Man, of a reasonable Soul and human Flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father as touching His Godhead, and inferior to the Father as touching His Manhood. Who, although He be God and Man, yet He is not two, but One Christ. One, not by conversion of the Godhead into Flesh, but by taking of the Manhood into God. One altogether, not by confusion of substance, but by Unity of Person. For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one Man, so God and Man is one Christ. Who suffered for our salvation, descended into Hell, rose again the third day from the dead. He ascended into Heaven, He sitteth on the right hand of the Father, God Almighty, from whence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead. At whose coming all men shall rise again with their bodies, and shall give account for their own works. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting, and they that have done evil into everlasting fire. This is the Catholic Faith, which except a man believe faithfully and firmly, he cannot be saved.
The Athanasian Creed
 
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TheLearner said:
I remember that Jesus knows the "hearts of people", don't remember the verses.
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But Jesus did not entrust Himself to them, for He knew them all. He did not
need any testimony about man, for He knew what was in a man. John 2:24-25

But Jesus knew what they were thinking and said, "Why do you harbor evil in your hearts?" Matthew 9:4

At once Jesus knew in His spirit that they were thinking this way within themselves.
“Why are you thinking these things in your hearts?” He asked. Mark 2:8

But when Jesus perceived their thoughts, he answering said unto them, What reason ye in your hearts? Luke 5:22

But Jesus knew their thoughts and said to the man with the withered hand,
“Get up and stand among us.” So he got up and stood there. Luke 6:8

Knowing their thoughts, Jesus said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself
will be laid waste, and a house divided against a house will fall." Luke 11:17
 
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A kingdom divided against itself cannot stand
Can a person divided against himself stand?
Double minded..?

Gut reaction is: Christ unified, undivided. One person, one will - that will uniquely unpolluted human and also uniquely divine. That person equally God and equally sinless man, "Narayana" in the eastern tradition, the God-Man. There is only One, only He.

100% God and 100% man, and that Man, in Whom is no sin. Only comparable human will ever is Adam pre-fall.

So why did Adam choose what Adam chose?
He lacked something Adam 2.0 did not lack.. I guess?
 
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“Father, if You are willing, take this cup from Me. Yet not My will, but Yours be done.” Luke 22:42

Going a little farther, He fell facedown and prayed, "My Father, if it is possible,
let this cup pass from Me. Yet not as I will, but as You will." Matthew 26:39

A second time He went away and prayed, "My Father, if this cup
cannot pass unless I drink it, may Your will be done." Matthew 26:42

And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this
cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt. Mark 14:36
 
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Magenta said:
“Father, if You are willing, take this cup from Me. Yet not My will, but Yours be done.” Luke 22:42

Going a little farther, He fell facedown and prayed, "My Father, if it is possible,
let this cup pass from Me. Yet not as I will, but as You will." Matthew 26:39

A second time He went away and prayed, "My Father, if this cup
cannot pass unless I drink it, may Your will be done." Matthew 26:42

And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this
cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt. Mark 14:36
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Genesis 15:17
And it came to pass, when the sun went down and it was dark, that behold, there appeared a smoking oven and a burning torch that passed between those pieces.

This is a great mystery - the appearance of God before Abraham, confirming the covenant, was not a vision of a single thing, but two things together, both having the light and smoke of fire

One God, one purpose, holy and just, gracious and merciful
 
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TheLearner said:
How many persons & wills are in Jesus Christ?
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Jesus Christ is one person with one will.

And there is no need to quote from the Catholic New Advent Encyclopedia. Use your Bible for quotations.
 
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