Flat earth debunked.

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RaceRunner

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Considerably more than a million Earths would be required to make up a body like the Sun—the astronomers tell us: and more than 53,000 suns would be wanted to equal the cubic contents of the star Vega. And Vega is a “small star!” And there are countless millions of these stars! And it takes 30,000,000 years for the light of some of these stars to reach us at 12,000,000 miles in a minute! And, says Mr. Proctor, “I think a moderate estimate of the age of the Earth would be 500,000,000 years!” “Its weight,” says the same individual, “is 6,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons!” Now, since no human being is able to comprehend these things, the giving of them to the world is an insult—an outrage. And though they have all arisen from the one assumption that Earth is a planet, instead of upholding the assumption, they drag it down by the weight of their own absurdity, and leave it lying in the dust—a proof that Earth is not a globe.
 

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Mr. J. R. Young, in his work on Navigation, says: “Although the path of the ship is on a spherical surface, yet we may represent the length of the path by a straight line on a plane surface.” (And plane sailing is the rule.) Now, since it is altogether impossible to “represent” a curved line by a straight one, and absurd to make the attempt, it follows that a straight line represents a straight line and not a curved one. And, since it is the surface of the waters of the ocean that is being considered by Mr. Young, it follows that this surface is a straight surface, and we are indebted to Mr. Young, a professor of navigation, for a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
 

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“Oh, but if the Earth is a plane, we could go to the edge and tumble over!” is a very common assertion. This is a conclusion that is formed too hastily, and facts overthrow it. The Earth certainly is, just what man by his observation finds it to be, and what Mr. Proctor himself says it “seems” to be—flat; and we cannot cross the icy barrier which surrounds it. This is a complete answer to the objection, and, of course, a proof that Earth is not a globe.
 

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“Yes, but we can circumnavigate the South easily enough,” is often said—by those who don’t know. The British Ship Challenger recently completed the circuit of the Southern region—indirectly, to be sure—but she was three years about it, and traversed nearly 69,000 miles—a stretch long enough to have taken her six times round on the globular hypothesis. This is a proof that Earth is not a globe.
 

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The remark is common enough that we can see the circle of the Earth if we cross the ocean, and that this proves it to be round. Now, if we tie a donkey to a stake on a level common, and he eats the grass all around him, it is only a circular disc that he has to do with, not a spherical mass. Since, then, circular discs may be seen anywhere—as well from a balloon in the air as from the deck of a ship, or from the standpoint of the donkey, it is a proof that the surface of the Earth is a plane surface, and, therefore, a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
 

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It is “supposed,” in the regular course of the Newtonian theory, that the Earth is, in June, about 190 millions of miles (190,000,000) away from its position in December. Now, since we can, (in middle north latitudes), see the North Star, on looking out of a window that faces it—and out of the very same corner of the very same pane of glass in the very same window—all the year round, it is proof enough for any man in his senses that we have made no motion at all. It is a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
 

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Moon Landing was discussed in this thread here, feel free to find opposing views in there, or just believe, what you believe.


https://christianchat.com/conspiracy-corruption-discussion-forum/did-man-land-on-the-moon.197547/
No, I believe what Christian eyewitness said happened. I know there are opposing views. The whole flat earth/fake moon landing is absurd. The Monty Python team would have rejected a script on the subject as too far fetched even for them.

If I doubt the testimony of the believers who went to the moon, I have no basis to believe the disciples' accounts in the New Testament. Faith is based on reality and truth. There is none of that in the conspiracy theorist's imaginations.
 

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Meh. Is your logic that Heathens can't lie about being Christians? Because this is certainly wrong. Is your logic that born again Christians can't lie? Because they can. Your logic is weak, and your argument flawed. If you don't doubt the bible, you would doubt the moon landing.

The correct standard by which we are to judge men's words, whether men who claim to be Christian or no, is against the bible. Neil Armstrong's and Buzz Aldrin's words on ball-Earth do not stack up against the bible. Moreso, as has been shown you on numerous occasions, Buzz Aldrin admitted we did not go to the moon, and the moon landing footage was faked. At best, he is an unreliable witness. At worst, he is a confessor of the lie, which you claim would exist if the moon landing were a lie. The very evidence that you claim you require to agree the moon landing is a lie, and you reject him.

Your belief in the moon landing is a faith based belief - a kind of religion.
You could not be more wrong. The Bible makes no statement that the earth is flat. Aldrin never said that he did not go to the moon. That was an edited video, as you've been told. All you are doing is making yourself look more and more ridiculous. Religion? How many globe earth believers have started threads to promote a globe earth? They see no need because it is self evident. it is flat earthers banging on about the issue. Why? I wish I knew. No one gets saved by believing in a flat earth. No one gets inspired to serve God more fully, love his neighbour more sincerely or seek God's kingdom more diligently. Even if it was true, which is obviously not, the FE debate adds nothing to the growth of the body of Christ. I suggest that you get a life and study something worthwhile and edifying.
 

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You could not be more wrong. The Bible makes no statement that the earth is flat. Aldrin never said that he did not go to the moon. That was an edited video, as you've been told. All you are doing is making yourself look more and more ridiculous. Religion? How many globe earth believers have started threads to promote a globe earth? They see no need because it is self evident. it is flat earthers banging on about the issue. Why? I wish I knew. No one gets saved by believing in a flat earth. No one gets inspired to serve God more fully, love his neighbour more sincerely or seek God's kingdom more diligently. Even if it was true, which is obviously not, the FE debate adds nothing to the growth of the body of Christ. I suggest that you get a life and study something worthwhile and edifying.
So fearful.
 

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He keeps lying about the video, but anyone can watch the original and find it's not edited. The below link highlights the important part of the video (the confession).

It's just too difficult for many to accept. They can't get their heads around the extent to which they have been lied to, so when confronted with truth, they choose instead to cling to the lie, because it's more comfortable. The truth is too upsetting.
 

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It's just too difficult for many to accept. They can't get their heads around the extent to which they have been lied to, so when confronted with truth, they choose instead to cling to the lie, because it's more comfortable. The truth is too upsetting.
"And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast." Rev. 13:14

It can and will be done...
 

Gideon300

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Mr. J. R. Young, in his work on Navigation, says: “Although the path of the ship is on a spherical surface, yet we may represent the length of the path by a straight line on a plane surface.” (And plane sailing is the rule.) Now, since it is altogether impossible to “represent” a curved line by a straight one, and absurd to make the attempt, it follows that a straight line represents a straight line and not a curved one. And, since it is the surface of the waters of the ocean that is being considered by Mr. Young, it follows that this surface is a straight surface, and we are indebted to Mr. Young, a professor of navigation, for a proof that the Earth is not a globe.
What a moronic statement. Modern navigators often follow what is known as great circle navigation. Why? It's shorter. Why? Because the earth is a globe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great-circle_navigation

I spent 3-1/2 years on a warship. I learned about this. It's navigation 101.
 

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Hmm I don't know there are so many boats, ships people that are missing and no one knows where they went...maybe they found the edge and fell off? Just because you can't see it does not mean its not real. HAHA
 

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Hmm I don't know there are so many boats, ships people that are missing and no one knows where they went...maybe they found the edge and fell off? Just because you can't see it does not mean its not real. HAHA
There is no edge to fall off. There is an ocean where ships sink. Just because you can't see them does not mean that they are not there. How many people have been to the edge, looked over and come back to tell about it? Exactly no one. There is no edge.
 

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There is no edge to fall off. There is an ocean where ships sink. Just because you can't see them does not mean that they are not there. How many people have been to the edge, looked over and come back to tell about it? Exactly no one. There is no edge.
Just because you have not seen an/the edge of the earth does not mean it is not there. ;)

You need to stop looking at things with a bias - "cannot see" may be applied equally to both sides of this.

You are not being honest with yourself.
 

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I would fully agree that no one is going to "fall off the edge" while on the ocean. (because of the 'ice wall')
 

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I would fully agree that no one is going to "fall off the edge" while on the ocean. (because of the 'ice wall')
Of course it’s just a coincidence. Nations at odds, nations at war…. Blood shed at the borders.

Except —

Space
Antarctica

It’s all kum-bay-ah in those two places and only those two places and no one can examine either beyond what they have agreed to show you.
 

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Of course it’s just a coincidence. Nations at odds, nations at war…. Blood shed at the borders.

Except —

Space
Antarctica

It’s all kum-bay-ah in those two places and only those two places and no one can examine either beyond what they have agreed to show you.
And, this is a very large CLUE - the significance of which is paramount - that most people seem to want to ignore...
 

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Just because you have not seen an/the edge of the earth does not mean it is not there. ;)

You need to stop looking at things with a bias - "cannot see" may be applied equally to both sides of this.

You are not being honest with yourself.
I admit to being biased. I am biased toward reality and truth. I am biased against absurd fairy tales that promote fantasy as truth. There is more reality in a Monty Python sketch than in FE follies. No one has seen the edge of the earth because it is not there. It's a simple matter to prove or disprove these days. Do you not see how absurd your position is? You reject the eyewitness accounts of pilots who have flown around the earth, sailors who have circumnavigated the earth and then criticise those who reject FE.