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R3V07UTI0N

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the Holy spirit does not live in buildings or organizations but PEOPLE. you are not lead by doctrines but pastors and the PEOPLE who write those pages you read. it is YOUR choice and DUTY to test everything others try to teach you with what GOD's holy word teaches and what His Holy Spirit testifies to.
People with the Holy Spirit are the church
 
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There is only one Church. The universal church establish by Jesus himself.
This is right there is only one Universal church but there will also be the ones who call them self a church but they act like the world but only stay separated from the world on Sundays or they don't take the whole word of God but parts to fit their self. We are here to please the Lord not man
 
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The problem is you can not know which church is the true church unless you study for yourselves. If your listening to a church just because they tell you they are the church. Your listening to men, and placing your eternity in those mens hands. You better pray they got it right. or you could be doomed for eternity.;
That's just what I wrote that we can not trust man......
 
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do all people who attend church have the Holy Spirit?
No not every one who attends church has the Holy Spirit. If we did then we would all be saved just to attend church. To receive the Holy Ghost we must repent and die of sin and be buried by water baptism in the name of Jesus Christ "Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life."-Romans 6:4 And we resurrect with the Holy Ghost as a new life like the Lord we must die, be buried, and resurrect for salvation. "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death."-Romans 8:1-2
 
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I know alot of people who used Father,Son, and Holy Ghost and use the name of Jesus. So they use both at the same time. Some people are asked if they recieved Jesus as their saviour before the Baptism and then baptised in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.
 
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I know alot of people who used Father,Son, and Holy Ghost and use the name of Jesus. So they use both at the same time. Some people are asked if they recieved Jesus as their saviour before the Baptism and then baptised in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.
That's really good that people accept Jesus as our saviour every one should but I don't get why they don't just baptize in the name of Jesus Christ since he is the Father and The Son And the Holy Ghost these are just positions or manifestations of our Lord
 
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That's really good that people accept Jesus as our saviour every one should but I don't get why they don't just baptize in the name of Jesus Christ since he is the Father and The Son And the Holy Ghost these are just positions or manifestations of our Lord
I don't believe the Father is the Son, I think you are confussed. They are one not all the Son! I believe the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all three, ONE. At the same time it's not good to call the Father or Holy Spirit the Son, Jesus. The Bible never says the Father or Holy Spirit is named Jesus. Jesus is the name of the Son. I don't believe you will find a verse that says or teaches that the Father is Jesus or the Holy Spirit is Jesus. They are not called Jesus.
 
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I don't believe the Father is the Son, I think you are confussed. They are one not all the Son! I believe the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all three, ONE. At the same time it's not good to call the Father or Holy Spirit the Son, Jesus. The Bible never says the Father or Holy Spirit is named Jesus. Jesus is the name of the Son. I don't believe you will find a verse that says or teaches that the Father is Jesus or the Holy Spirit is Jesus. They are not called Jesus.
Lol oh he well...and it will be all twisted and convoluted and probably out of context...but he will find it. These Jesus-Name only, oneless whackos pop up every few months or so
 
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Lol oh he well...and it will be all twisted and convoluted and probably out of context...but he will find it. These Jesus-Name only, oneless whackos pop up every few months or so
i dont think anyone, could find a scripture to say that, even twisted or convoluted id love to see it , exept possibly john chapter one, but if you understand the greek and hebrew that can be disputed
 
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??? the NAME of the Father, the son and the Holy Ghost IS Jesus Christ, so what is the issue?
Actually it's not. Each person of the Trinity is distinct, meaning the Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Holy Ghost, the Holy Ghost is not the Father, and so on. So Jesus is only the name of the Son, unless you take some kind of oneness view of things.
 
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I don't believe the Father is the Son, I think you are confussed. They are one not all the Son! I believe the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all three, ONE. At the same time it's not good to call the Father or Holy Spirit the Son, Jesus. The Bible never says the Father or Holy Spirit is named Jesus. Jesus is the name of the Son. I don't believe you will find a verse that says or teaches that the Father is Jesus or the Holy Spirit is Jesus. They are not called Jesus.
-"Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD" (Deuteronomy 6:4)
-"One Lord, one faith, one baptism, "(Ephesians 4:5)
-"Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:" (Colossians 1:15)
-"And they remembered that God was their rock, and the high God their redeemer." (Psalms 78:35). "So David prevailed over the Philistine with a sling and with a stone, and smote the Philistine, and slew him; but there was no sword in the hand of David." (1 Samuel 17:50)

There is only one God and that God is the Father "Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us?..."-(Malachi 2:10) If Jesus is God it logically fallows that Jesus is the Father. Want more prove "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."-(Isaiah 9:6) Jesus is the Son prophesied about and there is only ONE Father. More prove Jesus Himself taught that He was the Father. "Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also."-(John 8:19). "I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins."-(John 8:24). More prove we should note that "he" in the verse is in italics, which indicates that it is not in the original Greek, been added by the translators. Jesus was really identifying Himself with the "I AM" of (Exodus 3:14). The Jews who did not understand his meaning, asked, "Who art thou?" Jesus answered, "Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning."-(John 8:25). However "They understood not that he spake to them of the Father."-(John 8:27). In other words, Jesus tried to tell them that He is the Father and the I AM and that if they did not accept Him as God they would die in their sins. Also what God would we have if He sent His only Son to die instead of Himself? But we don't have a God like that cuz Jesus is God the Father
 
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Matthew 28:19

Amplified Bible (AMP)

19Go then and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them [a]into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,




This is good enough for me.


Pray to the Father in the name of Jesus.
 
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This is right there is only one Universal church but there will also be the ones who call them self a church but they act like the world but only stay separated from the world on Sundays or they don't take the whole word of God but parts to fit their self. We are here to please the Lord not man



Universal church......this name is one to watch out for. There is actually churches by this name that are full of witches and will give pastor papers to all kinds of mess. Kinda like the new world order stuff.
 
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Universal church......this name is one to watch out for. There is actually churches by this name that are full of witches and will give pastor papers to all kinds of mess. Kinda like the new world order stuff.
That would be a Unitarian Universalist Church. The Universal (or small "c" catholic) church refers to the entire body of believers.
 
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Universal church......this name is one to watch out for. There is actually churches by this name that are full of witches and will give pastor papers to all kinds of mess. Kinda like the new world order stuff.
I did not know that thanks by the way. You should read the reply I sent to Johnathanbchristian and tell me what you think about it. Thanks in advance :)
 

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There is only one Church. The universal church establish by Jesus himself.
The Church = the people.

The building = a place to gather.

The Bible = word of God.

False prophets = those who go against the word of God.


To establish who God's people really are, you have to look at what the people follow. Right? Do they follow God or Man? - The spirit or the flesh?

God challenges us to compare teachings of man with the bible, to understand who the false prophets are. Any false prophet will go against the bible. Any true church of God follows the word of God, as written in the bible.

Satan hides in churches. Which ones is he hiding in today? Satan hides in any church that goes against God, since Satan hates God. That's the answer!

The true church of God is not proven by the popularity of those who follow it. So just because a church has a large following, this is not relevant.

God gave us clues about who the false prophets are. He described in great detail everywhere in the bible.

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Interesting story........

In the bible, a rich man approached Jesus and asked him what he needed to do to have eternal life. One of the things Jesus said was: “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.” But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions. Then Jesus said to His disciples, “Assuredly, I say to you that it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. And again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”

Have sole faith in Christ and leave everything else behind. Do not cling to man made things, as he gives you everything you need. The true followers have faith in him and put him first. True followers do not cling to things of the flesh. Walk in the spirit, not the flesh!



If a man tells you something, do you trust in the man? (For example, if the Pope tells you that all the traditions of the Catholic church are of God, do you believe him? - For he is just a man, right?)

OR - If God tells you something different to man, do you trust in him instead?

One of the true signs of faith is putting Christ first! - Have faith in him and do not cling to a SAFETY NET - being able to give everything up to follow Christ and trust he will catch you if you fall. Catholics cannot put Christ first and trust in him when they have their SAFETY NET (all the things the Catholic church teaches that you need to do to get to heaven) - monstrance with Eucharistic Jesus, statues, penance, purgatory, Catholic laws, etc, etc. If Catholics put all their faith in Christ, then they would believe that what he did for us was sufficient and the simplicity of following him, that we are not required to follow Catholic laws, and we do not need to cling to things. These things do not secure our eternal life; Christ does.

Do you believe a pope telling you to abide by the Catholic laws, or do you believe in Christ's word? The Catholic laws do not agree with the words of the Bible. Which do you believe?
 
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The Church = the people.

The building = a place to gather.

The Bible = word of God.

False prophets = those who go against the word of God.


To establish who God's people really are, you have to look at what the people follow. Right? Do they follow God or Man? - The spirit or the flesh?

God challenges us to compare teachings of man with the bible, to understand who the false prophets are. Any false prophet will go against the bible. Any true church of God follows the word of God, as written in the bible.

Satan hides in churches. Which ones is he hiding in today? Satan hides in any church that goes against God, since Satan hates God. That's the answer!

The true church of God is not proven by the popularity of those who follow it. So just because a church has a large following, this is not relevant.

God gave us clues about who the false prophets are. He described in great detail everywhere in the bible.

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Interesting story........

In the bible, a rich man approached Jesus and asked him what he needed to do to have eternal life. One of the things Jesus said was: “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.” But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions. Then Jesus said to His disciples, “Assuredly, I say to you that it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. And again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”

Have sole faith in Christ and leave everything else behind. Do not cling to man made things, as he gives you everything you need. The true followers have faith in him and put him first. True followers do not cling to things of the flesh. Walk in the spirit, not the flesh!



If a man tells you something, do you trust in the man? (For example, if the Pope tells you that all the traditions of the Catholic church are of God, do you believe him? - For he is just a man, right?)

OR - If God tells you something different to man, do you trust in him instead?

One of the true signs of faith is putting Christ first! - Have faith in him and do not cling to a safety net - being able to give everything up to follow Christ and trust he will catch you if you fall. Catholics cannot put Christ first and trust in him when they have their [COLOR="red"(invented) safety net (all the things the Catholic church teaches that you need to do to get to heaven)[/COLOR] - monstrance with Eucharistic Jesus, statues, penance, purgatory, Catholic laws, etc, etc. If Catholics put all their faith in Christ, then they would believe that what he did for us was sufficient and the simplicity of following him, that we are not required to follow Catholic laws, and we do not need to cling to things. These things do not secure our eternal life; Christ does. Do you believe a pope telling you to abide by the Catholic laws, or do you believe in Christ's word? The Catholic laws do not agree with the words of the Bible. Which do you believe?
Are you capable of posting on a topic that you don't someway try to tie the Catholic Church into.