CJ Lovik with another prophecy backing up his 2030 return of Jesus

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Everlasting-Grace

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"But he answered, ‘Truly, I say to you, I do not know you.’ 13 Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour." Matt. 25;12

So sick of these false predictions. I am waiting for the Second Coming. But I am not making false prophecies about it!!

I hope this Lovij will be stoned to death for his false prophecy when it does not come to pass! So many preachers who should receive this punishment. It may be the OT, but as Christians we believe the OT!
Amen, no one knows the day or hour. even the son of man.

Good to see you still around sis
 

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I just wanted to say Mark Biltz is also saying the Lord's 2nd coming is in 2030 and the Rapture's in 2023. His reasoning is totally different from C. J. Lovik, yet the result's the same. There's no denying we're almost at the end of the Generation that's seen the Jews return to their homeland and seen the desert blossom once again after 2000 years. As others have said, only time will tell if they missed the mark or their spot on. This happens to be 2023, so we won't have long to find out. I've made my reservation. Hope you have too!
the generation that saw the jews return are prety much gone.. My father was 6 years old. he just died and he was 83..
 

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Over the last 50 years, Calvinism has crept into many seminaries, and the pastors coming from these seminaries start teaching it, or at least hinting to it. Now we have generations believing God elected them to salvation. A dangerous doctrine for the Laodicean Age. Could this doctrine have lead to the lukewarm church of today?
no,

Licentiousness or easy believism is what is the cause. Not calvinism
 

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This in addition to the Berisheet prophecy.
Meaning the 7-year tribulation starts this year and for pre-tribbers, this is the year you go up to meet Jesus in the clouds. I lived my whole life of 41 years and flip flop from pre-trib/pre-wrath and post-trib. Still don't know. But I'll be ready.

Specific date setting is the last thing a Christian wants to do bro.
We know the times and seasons......but no man knows the day or the hour.

I am giving it a 10-20 year window (more like a 0-20 year window lately), but promoting the exact year?
This is to be discouraged. Only the Father, who issues the command to the Son to harpazo His bride, knows for sure.

1Th 5:1
But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.

Mat 24:36
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
Mat 25:13
Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
 

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I use the term "Calvinism" for all teachings which are not the truth (TULIP) both repackaged modern and old. :D

Of course there are many correct teachings in the Reformed world but those that work against the message of the simple Gospel and its power for salvation and the character of God, nah not having it.
hopefully you are not just against calvinism. Hope your against the legalistic church also. they are just as evil. preaching eternal life is not eternal but must be earned, Not unlike the jews of Pauls day
 

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the generation that saw the jews return are prety much gone.. My father was 6 years old. he just died and he was 83..
Like I said......10-20 years.
This generation may also mean the uninterrupted family line of the house of Jacob. Perfectly acceptable and applicable IMO.

Mat 24:34
Verily I say unto you, This generation G1074 shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

G1074 - genea - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv) (blueletterbible.org)

  1. fathered, birth, nativity
  2. that which has been begotten, men of the same stock, a family
    1. the several ranks of natural descent, the successive members of a genealogy
    2. metaph. a group of men very like each other in endowments, pursuits, character
      1. esp. in a bad sense, a perverse nation
  3. the whole multitude of men living at the same time
  4. an age (i.e. the time ordinarily occupied be each successive generation), a space of 30 - 33 years
 

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no,

Licentiousness or easy believism is what is the cause. Not calvinism
Well, Christ did all the work and to believe otherwise is works based. No thank you. Believe upon the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.
 
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It's disgusting to see false teachers promoted again and again.

They don't know or respect the Bible. Their god is money and attention . They don't know scripture nor do their believers. It's sad.
“But of that DAY and HOUR no one knows,
not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only”
(Matthew 24:36)
 

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Over the last 50 years, Calvinism has crept into many seminaries, and the pastors coming from these seminaries start teaching it, or at least hinting to it. Now we have generations believing God elected them to salvation. A dangerous doctrine for the Laodicean Age. Could this doctrine have lead to the lukewarm church of today?
The lukewarmness that I see today has nothing whatsoever to do with so-called Calvinism. Calvinists (I am not a Calvinist or anything else in particular BTW) tend to be quite old-school puritanical in lifestyle generally.

It has everything to do with worldliness (did I say worldliness? Let me say it again "worldliness". Listening to occultic rock stars, seeking first after wealth, prosperity etc etc), carnality, unholiness, false doctrine, and.....well.....fake bogus Christians overwhelming the Church.

IMO, I have attended supposed Churches where I honestly wondered if there was ONE SINGLE TRUE BELIEVER in attendance!

Just ***** like ***** Laodocea.

Which to me is yet another palpable sign that the end-times are at the very threshold.
 

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The lukewarmness that I see today has nothing whatsoever to do with so-called Calvinism. Calvinists (I am not a Calvinist or anything else in particular BTW) tend to be quite old-school puritanical in lifestyle generally.

It has everything to do with worldliness (did I say worldliness? Let me say it again "worldliness". Listening to occultic rock stars, seeking first after wealth, prosperity etc etc), carnality, unholiness, false doctrine, and.....well.....fake bogus Christians overwhelming the Church.

IMO, I have attended supposed Churches where I honestly wondered if there was ONE SINGLE TRUE BELIEVER in attendance!

Just ***** like ***** Laodocea.

Which to me is yet another palpable sign that the end-times are at the very threshold.
Fair enough, it was a question I was asking. Personally, I believe the modern day, watered down Bible versions are the culprit.😉
 

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Fair enough, it was a question I was asking. Personally, I believe the modern day, watered down Bible versions are the culprit.😉
If you have access to any secret, newly found unique manuscripts. PLEASE provide them to trustworthy Elder fiduciaries at a truly believing Church ASAP.

I am aware that ancient manuscripts are still being discovered. But as far as I know they do not vary much from what those that the scholars who compiled the KJV had used.

Please post anything remarkable you might be using. I would love to review them myself.
 

Everlasting-Grace

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Like I said......10-20 years.
This generation may also mean the uninterrupted family line of the house of Jacob. Perfectly acceptable and applicable IMO.

Mat 24:34
Verily I say unto you, This generation G1074 shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

G1074 - genea - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv) (blueletterbible.org)

  1. fathered, birth, nativity
  2. that which has been begotten, men of the same stock, a family
    1. the several ranks of natural descent, the successive members of a genealogy
    2. metaph. a group of men very like each other in endowments, pursuits, character
      1. esp. in a bad sense, a perverse nation
  3. the whole multitude of men living at the same time
  4. an age (i.e. the time ordinarily occupied be each successive generation), a space of 30 - 33 years
I believe he is talking about when the abomination of desolation happens. and then the great trib. we are talking 3.5 years. one generation

remember Pual in 2 thess said three things must occur before the day of the lord.
 

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I believe he is talking about when the abomination of desolation happens. and then the great trib. we are talking 3.5 years. one generation

remember Pual in 2 thess said three things must occur before the day of the lord.
OK I see it. Well......I am a pre-tribber so I cannot agree with any of that business at all either.
 

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OK I see it. Well......I am a pre-tribber so I cannot agree with any of that business at all.
I am a pretrib er also. And I see it perfectly clear. 7 years is still one generation
 

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I am a pretrib er also. And I see it perfectly clear. 7 years is still one generation
OK I get what you are saying there. Not really my interpretation of Jesus' statement though.

"the generation that saw the jews return are prety much gone "

That is the event that I thought was the starting point you were referring to.....
 

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OK I get what you are saying there. Not really my interpretation of Jesus' statement though.

"the generation that saw the jews return are prety much gone "

That is the event that I thought was the starting point you were referring to.....
No

I start the generation at the time of abomination of desolation and day of the lord or great tribulation which follows
 

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If you have access to any secret, newly found unique manuscripts. PLEASE provide them to trustworthy Elder fiduciaries at a truly believing Church ASAP.

I am aware that ancient manuscripts are still being discovered. But as far as I know they do not vary much from what those that the scholars who compiled the KJV had used.

Please post anything remarkable you might be using. I would love to review them myself.
I'm sticking with the "ancient" KJV, God's preserved holy word.
 

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No

I start the generation at the time of abomination of desolation and day of the lord or great tribulation which follows
OK. I think that is quite a stretch given v. 36, 37, 42 etc. were it seems that the world is at relative peace before it all hits the fan at the opening of the 1st thru 6th seal. By mid-trib the earth is in seriously bad shape and a huge portion of the population has been killed.

I have changed my view a couple of times, but as of now my estimation is to roll waaaaayyy back to verse 2.
Consequently the term "this generation" refers to the line of Jacob, who will endure ALL of biblical prophecy.
They will survive 70AD, the Church age all the way thru the 70th week tribulation to the SC.

The statement of verse 34 then becomes an iron clad guarantee that the Jewish people will be miraculously preserved in effect.

Mat 24:34
Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

I was a 1948 guy for a long time. And....it may turn out to be that way in the end. Who really knows for sure?