Christian Nationalists Have Forgotten Their First Priority

[ResidentAlien]

Christian nationalism is big and is on the rise. Unfortunately, their emphasis on insularism and dependence on politicians rather than God leaves a lot to be desired. I believe removing children from public schools is just common sense, but Christians can't, and shouldn't, withdraw from society. Our first priority is sharing the gospel of Jesus. How can we do that if we're insulated in own little world?

https://julieroys.com/how-big-christian-nationalism-come-courting-north-idaho/

 

[ZNP]

Christian nationalism is big and is on the rise. Unfortunately, their emphasis on insularism and dependence on politicians rather than God leaves a lot to be desired. I believe removing children from public schools is just common sense, but Christians can't, and shouldn't, withdraw from society. Our first priority is sharing the gospel of Jesus. How can we do that if we're insulated in own little world?

https://julieroys.com/how-big-christian-nationalism-come-courting-north-idaho/

Are you taking issue with the Puritans leaving Europe to go to the US?

 

[ResidentAlien]

Are you taking issue with the Puritans leaving Europe to go to the US?

I don't know. Does it sound to you like I am?

 

[ZNP]

I don't know. Does it sound to you like I am?

Telling Christians that they should not withdraw from society sounds like what the Puritans would have been told by those who were against them leaving Europe.

How about Abraham. Was he wrong for withdrawing from the Babylonian society and going to Israel?

 

[ResidentAlien]

Telling Christians that they should not withdraw from society sounds like what the Puritans would have been told by those who were against them leaving Europe.

How about Abraham. Was he wrong for withdrawing from the Babylonian society and going to Israel?

Okay, thank you for your opinion.

 

[ZNP]

I believe removing children from public schools is just common sense, but Christians can't, and shouldn't, withdraw from society. Our first priority is sharing the gospel of Jesus. How can we do that if we're insulated in own little world?

I learned this while preaching the gospel. Unbelievers want to feel that your job is to convince them and if they refuse to be convinced you are stuck like flypaper. This is not at all what the Bible says. We are witnesses, as long as we witness to others it is on them what they do with it. Also, they want you to think that your job is to witness to them. No, if they reject the word by all means move on. Paul moved on when others rejected the word. Sometimes the Lord has to disperse them which is what happened when the temple was destroyed. For every person out there that rejects the word there are many others who will receive it. The best way to respond to someone who rejects the word is to pray for them. We are pilgrims called to bring the gospel to the entire world, not just one small group of people.

 

[Dude653]

Christian nationalism is fascism under a different name

 

[ZNP]

Christian nationalism is fascism under a different name

Fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

1. If you exalt nation and race you are not a Christian. You might be disguised as a Christian, but Christians exalt Jesus and see themselves as ambassadors from the kingdom of the heavens.

2. There are people pushing for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader. Just look at Biden with all his Presidential decrees many of which are unconstitutional. Look at 100 billion sent to Ukraine with us going to war with Russia, where was the debate? Where was the declaration of war? Where did Congress vote on this? Dictatorial.

3. Forcible suppression of opposition -- we have certainly seen that from the Main Stream Media and from Youtube, Twitter and Google. Being in the opposition doesn't make you a fascist, debating and disagreeing doesn't make you a fascist, but look at all the phony reasons to suspend and deplatform people and shadow ban them, etc. That is forcible suppression of opposition.

I would say that Biden is a fascist disguised as a "catholic". So if you are referring to Biden kudos to you to finally seeing through the charade.

 

[Dude653]

Fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

1. If you exalt nation and race you are not a Christian. You might be disguised as a Christian, but Christians exalt Jesus and see themselves as ambassadors from the kingdom of the heavens.

2. There are people pushing for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader. Just look at Biden with all his Presidential decrees many of which are unconstitutional. Look at 100 billion sent to Ukraine with us going to war with Russia, where was the debate? Where was the declaration of war? Where did Congress vote on this? Dictatorial.

3. Forcible suppression of opposition -- we have certainly seen that from the Main Stream Media and from Youtube, Twitter and Google. Being in the opposition doesn't make you a fascist, debating and disagreeing doesn't make you a fascist, but look at all the phony reasons to suspend and deplatform people and shadow ban them, etc. That is forcible suppression of opposition.

I would say that Biden is a fascist disguised as a "catholic". So if you are referring to Biden kudos to you to finally seeing through the charade.

Here's the thing though, not everyone in America is christian.
Have muslims, sihks, probably countless other non abrahamic religions represented in America
Christian nationalism is this idea that only Christianity is relevant in America and that if you're not Christian then basically you're right so don't matter

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

I don't know if this is a bad thing. I'll keep watch of this and see where it goes, because in the Bible it says that in the last days, Christians are going to be hated all over the world because of the Lord. I wonder if some of the ungodly will use this Christian nationalism somehow to turn everyone against Christians.

 

[ZNP]

Here's the thing though, not everyone in America is christian.
Have muslims, sihks, probably countless other non abrahamic religions represented in America
Christian nationalism is this idea that only Christianity is relevant in America and that if you're not Christian then basically you're right so don't matter

Clearly not a Christian idea since Christians are witnesses of the Lord to others. Why would anyone be dumb enough to confuse someone who thought this way with a Christian? Have they ever read the Bible? Have they seen the gospels? Perhaps "Pharisee Nationalism" is what you mean.

 

[2ndTimeIsTheCharm]

Clearly not a Christian idea since Christians are witnesses of the Lord to others. Why would anyone be dumb enough to confuse someone who thought this way with a Christian? Have they ever read the Bible? Have they seen the gospels? Perhaps "Pharisee Nationalism" is what you mean.

I agree, but most people who aren't Christian aren't familiar with our ways. So we might get lumped in with the Pharisees under this Christian nationalism whatever it is.

 

[ResidentAlien]

 

[Cameron143]

Seeking what God can do for us is much different than merely seeking God. We are to seek His kingdom and His righteousness, not His choice of things. We need changes not only in the political arena but in every arena. God works these changes out through the people He changes.
So the idea of sharing the gospel is correct and that can't be done without engaging in the culture.
But this is a general rule and there are times when God calls His people away from the culture. It is incumbent upon us to be so intimately related to God that we can discern the difference.

 

[oyster67]

2 Corinthians 6:17
“Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,”

 

[oyster67]

Good video. I like this Maurice guy. Those people are an embarrassing abomination to the name of Christ.

2Corinthians 10
3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:
4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds

 

[oyster67]

I wonder if some of the ungodly will use this Christian nationalism somehow to turn everyone against Christians.

It would turn me away. It's an embarrassment. Our job is to share the Gospel, not start another Roman Catholic Crusade.

John 18:36
“Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.”

 

[MsMediator]

I don't really know what Christian nationalism is but my first impression is negative as I think of a place like Gilead from The Handmaid's Tale. Whatever it is, it sounds like it will go against the founding principles of this country:

First Amendment
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

I don't really see how Christian nationalism and the First amendment can coexist. First, we have to define Christian nationalism, and how it will be enforced.

Living in a theocracy also does not create the right relationship with God. It is a forced upon type of relationship, and not really voluntary and out of love as God wants.

I think people can still vote in ways which espouse Christian values and aim for reform that way, but there are limitations (Congress shall make no law...etc., as the First Amendment notes).

 

[MsMediator]

At best, a Christian nationalist/theocratic state, if that is what Idaho aspires to be, will be the Christian equivalent of the unofficial Mormon state of Utah. I am sure the Mormons want to turn Utah into a Mormon theocracy but there are federal rules, and maybe other rules, against that.

 

[Gojira]

Christian nationalism is big and is on the rise. Unfortunately, their emphasis on insularism and dependence on politicians rather than God leaves a lot to be desired. I believe removing children from public schools is just common sense, but Christians can't, and shouldn't, withdraw from society. Our first priority is sharing the gospel of Jesus. How can we do that if we're insulated in own little world?

https://julieroys.com/how-big-christian-nationalism-come-courting-north-idaho/

This is a Leftist's opinion piece about his opposition. Not sure why a Christian would be taking what this guy says to heart. The pagan/Leftist mainstream media's filled with this kind of crap, and Christians are eating it up.

I'm also quite disturbed when Christians are more worried about these folks wanting to bring God back into a society that's founded on His precepts, rather than antifa or BLM or our friends at the WEF. These are the fascist radicals.

I'm a Christian, and I'm a nationalist. This means I put faith in Christ, and take pride in my nation and its founding principles. I do think America is exceptional (though we are on our way toward losing that status). This means I value individual freedom and liberty -- quintessentially anti-fascist. If you have a problem with that, then you are the problem.

Only unself-aware Leftists who push for governmental emergency powers for our security, who jin up division among the people (via economic class or race or whatever works), who try to punish those who believe differently, and don't get in line and chant their mantras (via cancel culture, FBI intimidation, unending lawsuits, the Equality Act, etc.), who condemn the constitution -- and free speech -- as evil, and who send useful idiot foot soldiers to their town to peacefully burn it down, are the true fascists. This is what authoritarian movements do: sow chaos, hatred, discord, fear, pick one group as the enemy, and then the next step is to promise order and safety. Total, absolute order. But, little safety. Enter the WEF and their "great reset". If you are on the Left and are okay with this, then you are the thing you claim you oppose and therefore, you are the bad guy. Not me.

People from brutal dictatorships are coming here and they are NOT warning us about the boogeyman of Christian Nationalism, but about the Leftism increasingly dominating our government and society. This is how their societies fell, so they ought to know what they're talking about, right? But, we have too many college professors, media personalities, and a whole new woke generation who know better than these poor folks do. These idiots wouldn't know real fascism if it smacked them in the face, yet in their ignorance they are fighting hard to drag us down a drain history has repeatedly warned us to avoid.