I think I should wait until the millennium age to start dating again.

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Cameron143

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He said case closed. How could anyone still be discussing this?
I just wish he would go to some of the incessantly long threads and close them too.
 

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You 56 years of marriage, imagine someone having none of those experiences.
There is another interpretation of Genesis 6:1 and following that makes more sense given the previous context, which traces the two lineages of Seth and Cain, the "good" and "evil" lines from Adam. Those intermarried, and evil dominated the human race except for Noah and his family.
 

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The record of Scripture shows that angels took the form of man only in accordance with the express will of God.
Nope. That is not true. There is NO passage or verse that delineates that particular constraint.

Contrarily, by observation and example, rebel angels were cohabitating with men for protracted periods of time.

Furthermore, rebel demons were possessing men all the time in the Bible. Did they ask permission to do this? I doubt it.
 

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He said case closed. How could anyone still be discussing this?
I just wish he would go to some of the incessantly long threads and close them too.
Should you actually have something of value to offer, please regale us.

Vapid, insipid vacuous one liners and troll chum is useless.
This is a place of learning. Supposedly.
 

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Why didn't God express His anger against the angels, is what question I had for years. My non-denominational pastor taught the giant interspecies offspring from angels theory as if I was in school learning the theory of evolution. I was convinced until I started asking questions.
I think giants existed prior to the angelic offspring theory if I am reading this right.

"There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart."

The Lord wiped out the entire population of people from the earth other than 8 on the ark. However, it did nothing to deal with the so called giant interspecies kind AFTER the flood either.

If there's no rare genetic variability for size differences unless reproducing with angelic kinds, I wonder if the NBA should have genetic testing done to see if they are half angel?
 

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There is another interpretation of Genesis 6:1 and following that makes more sense given the previous context, which traces the two lineages of Seth and Cain, the "good" and "evil" lines from Adam. Those intermarried, and evil dominated the human race except for Noah and his family.
Although giants continued after the flood... aka Anakites, Rephaim, Emin, Zamzummim, Gibbor...

Modern day giants include Robert Wadlow...

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cv5

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There is another interpretation of Genesis 6:1 and following that makes more sense given the previous context, which traces the two lineages of Seth and Cain, the "good" and "evil" lines from Adam. Those intermarried, and evil dominated the human race except for Noah and his family.
If it not for the undeniable fact of inhuman giants and destroying the entire world business.
 

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Should you actually have something of value to offer, please regale us.

Vapid, insipid vacuous one liners and troll chum is useless.
This is a place of learning. Supposedly.
I am learning. I just added vapid, insipid, and vacuous to my vocabulary.
 

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Nope. That is not true. There is NO passage or verse that delineates that particular constraint.
You misunderstand. I stated no constraint .;). Simply the FACT that there is no record
in Scripture of angels taking on human form apart from the explicit, express will of God.
 

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Should you actually have something of value to offer, please regale us.

Vapid, insipid vacuous one liners and troll chum is useless.
This is a place of learning. Supposedly.
You're getting too intense OVER NOTHING.

If you haven't noticed, this is just a fun thread to banter back and forth. Nothing is serious here.

I do have a question though: You said that whenever the angels came to earth, they manifested as MEN. What do you or any of the readers here think about that? Why always men? There's never been any female angels.
 

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I think giants existed prior to the angelic offspring theory if I am reading this right.

"There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart."

The Lord wiped out the entire population of people from the earth other than 8 on the ark. However, it did nothing to deal with the so called giant interspecies kind AFTER the flood either.

If there's no rare genetic variability for size differences unless reproducing with angelic kinds, I wonder if the NBA should have genetic testing done to see if they are half angel?
That could open a whole new area of genetics. Angel genome testing would be all the rage.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Such as denying that kind reproduces after kind. Angels are not humankind.
I missed putting this in my previous post.

Maybe I'm asking too many questions, but I wonder if this guy is what verse 5 above is an example of ?

"And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually."

 

HealthAndHappiness

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You're getting too intense OVER NOTHING.

If you haven't noticed, this is just a fun thread to banter back and forth. Nothing is serious here.

I do have a question though: You said that whenever the angels came to earth, they manifested as MEN. What do you or any of the readers here think about that? Why always men? There's never been any female angels.
I don't know. There was a east European pro basketball player who had a crush on me at my christian singles group. Not literally crush me though. She was a sweet gal. Nobody would argue if I called her an angel.
 

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You misunderstand. I stated no constraint .;). Simply the FACT that there is no record in Scripture of angels taking on human form aside from the express will of God.
A specious assumption disproven by my voluminous postings proving that the TEXT ITSELF is quite beyond refutation proving that indeed, angelic rebellion, "going after strange flesh" and Nephilim offspring were a fact of Biblical history.

These verses are really entirely conclusive. The connecting phrase "even as" makes verse 7 a "proof text" confirming the OT scenario is the same as that which has been reflexively imbued into verse 6.

I would ask you to carefully inquire of the Greek terms (links courteously provided) to prove your case, rather than indulging in your habit for simplistic "one-liners" that have no value added one way or another.

Jde 1:6
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

Not men....ANGELS....who rebelled and were consequently imprisoned awaiting punished.

Jde 1:7
Even as G5613 Sodom G4670 and G2532 Gomorrha, G1116 and G2532 the cities G4172 about G4012 them G846 in like G3664 G5125 manner, G5158 giving themselves over to fornication, G1608 and G2532 going G565 after G3694 strange G2087 flesh, G4561 are set forth for G4295 an example, G1164 suffering G5254 the vengeance G1349 of eternal G166 fire. G4442

G5613 - hōs - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv) (blueletterbible.org)
Outline of Biblical Usage
  1. as, like, even as, etc.
 

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I don't know. There was a east European pro basketball player who had a crush on me at my christian singles group. Not literally crush me though. She was a sweet gal. Nobody would argue if I called her an angel.
That's a good point! Guys are always describing females they like and find attractive as angels, but why is that?!! Because they're sweet and innocent? I just can't imagine the angels wrecking Sodom and Gomorrah with giant balls of burning sulfur being sweet.... They WILL KILL when instructed by the Lord!
 

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I missed putting this in my previous post.

Maybe I'm asking too many questions, but I wonder if this guy is what verse 5 above is an example of ?

"And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually."

So Magenta thinks that this Wadlow fellow is a legit giant and full of wickedness, violence and evil? So much so that God had to wipe him and all like him off from the face of the earth? :ROFL::LOL:
 

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That's a good point! Guys are always describing females they like and find attractive as angels, but why is that?!! Because they're sweet and innocent? I just can't imagine the angels wrecking Sodom and Gomorrah with giant balls of burning sulfur being sweet.... They WILL KILL when instructed by the Lord!
True. That term angel does get misused alot.
I had a girlfriend on campus who had an angel. True story. It was angry with me and tried to kill me through her. I learned how powerful they can be. That was one of the rebels that hated God and His own. Short of it is that it was cast out and the Lord protected me until this day.

They struck the Sodomites blind, that's for sure.
 

cv5

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I missed putting this in my previous post.

Maybe I'm asking too many questions, but I wonder if this guy is what verse 5 above is an example of ?

"And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually."

So Wadlow and people like him will be the cause of the greatest judgement the world will ever know? I don't think so.

G5618 - hōsper - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv) (blueletterbible.org)
ὥσπερ hṓsper, hoce'-per; from G5613 and G4007; just as, i.e. exactly like:—(even, like) as.

Mat 24:37
But G1161 as G5618 the days G2250 of Noe G3575 were, so G3779 shall G2071 ➔ also G2532 the coming G3952 of the Son G5207 of man G444 be. G2071

Mat 24:22
And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.