Can we trust the Angels?

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In the Bible Satan is described as a fallen angel, having originally been Lucifer who was beautiful and known as the Bringer of Light - if my understanding is right.

It is said there was war in heaven, Satan banished for challenging God and that many other angels, a third of the total, followed him.

So they comprise the evil presences here, leading mankind astray and corrupting souls until Jesus comes back and takes over. Then will be their final end and our heavenly eternity shall begin.
So, can we trust all the other angels in heaven? God couldn't.

I am really confused about this.
 
The remaining Angels in Heaven have not, nor will not, rebel against God. They have a different function:

Hebrews 1:14

New King James Version

14 Are they not all ministering spirits sent forth to minister for those who will inherit salvation?
 
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MaryM said:
In the Bible Satan is described as a fallen angel, having originally been Lucifer who was beautiful and known as the Bringer of Light - if my understanding is right.

It is said there was war in heaven, Satan banished for challenging God and that many other angels, a third of the total, followed him.

So they comprise the evil presences here, leading mankind astray and corrupting souls until Jesus comes back and takes over. Then will be their final end and our heavenly eternity shall begin.
So, can we trust all the other angels in heaven? God couldn't.

I am really confused about this.
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Angel are much, much wiser than men.

Having seen the result and catastrophe of Satan's rebellion, I do not think that the good angels are likely to try the same scheme again.
 
MaryM said:
In the Bible Satan is described as a fallen angel, having originally been Lucifer who was beautiful and known as the Bringer of Light - if my understanding is right.

It is said there was war in heaven, Satan banished for challenging God and that many other angels, a third of the total, followed him.

So they comprise the evil presences here, leading mankind astray and corrupting souls until Jesus comes back and takes over. Then will be their final end and our heavenly eternity shall begin.
So, can we trust all the other angels in heaven? God couldn't.

I am really confused about this.
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I'm trusting in the word of God.
 
MaryM said:
In the Bible Satan is described as a fallen angel, having originally been Lucifer who was beautiful and known as the Bringer of Light - if my understanding is right.

It is said there was war in heaven, Satan banished for challenging God and that many other angels, a third of the total, followed him.

So they comprise the evil presences here, leading mankind astray and corrupting souls until Jesus comes back and takes over. Then will be their final end and our heavenly eternity shall begin.
So, can we trust all the other angels in heaven? God couldn't.

I am really confused about this.
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Hi Mary

We don't have to 'trust' angels. We now have the Holy Spirit indwelling us and He is supposed to lead us into all truth. People who converse with spirits do so at their own peril.

Satan is the one who conducted the revolt in heaven and took with him one third of the angels. We learn from scripture that evil spirits are at loose in the world and the devil is their leader. There are angels in chains, put their by God, who are no longer roaming about the earth at this moment.
 
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MaryM said:
In the Bible Satan is described as a fallen angel, having originally been Lucifer who was beautiful and known as the Bringer of Light - if my understanding is right.

It is said there was war in heaven, Satan banished for challenging God and that many other angels, a third of the total, followed him.

So they comprise the evil presences here, leading mankind astray and corrupting souls until Jesus comes back and takes over. Then will be their final end and our heavenly eternity shall begin.
So, can we trust all the other angels in heaven? God couldn't.

I am really confused about this.
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This is all about God rooting all evil out of creation from angels to men were in the wine press now he’s saving those redeemable and letting the others run to their end.

you see how a third ofnthe angels rebelled and followed Satan and they lost the war and we’re all cast out of heaven forever ? Now there’s nothing in heaven that is in any way corrupt or opposed to God , soon one day the earth will face the same Great War and Christ will win and cleanse the earth of all traces of evil and rebellion

in the end we will have a new heaven which we already have now and a new earth which is coming soon but angels and men the evil will be rooted out forever

I’d say when you get to heaven the trial is over and you can trust anyone and everyone you meet angels or man or any other creature there may be

On earth however thre is alot of deception Satan can even appear as an angel of light the way for us to know is to fill our hearts and minds with the gospel Gods angels won’t disagree
 
MaryM said:
In the Bible Satan is described as a fallen angel, having originally been Lucifer who was beautiful and known as the Bringer of Light - if my understanding is right.

It is said there was war in heaven, Satan banished for challenging God and that many other angels, a third of the total, followed him.

So they comprise the evil presences here, leading mankind astray and corrupting souls until Jesus comes back and takes over. Then will be their final end and our heavenly eternity shall begin.
So, can we trust all the other angels in heaven? God couldn't.

I am really confused about this.
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Well from what I read there might not be another angel like Satan who was so beautiful and full of wisdom. In this world we are blind we cannot truly see. Its why Christ said if you were blind you would have no sin. You say you see your sin remains. In heaven all those angels before the fall knew God in all His glory and power. They made the choice to leave. As I see it God in His mercy since there was no place in heaven for them as its written hell was made for them a place not made for man. They knew what they said no to. There is no remorse with them no oops I think I made the wrong choice. Those are emotions we have here. We only know sin in all this so called glory. We have never know Him. He knows this haha..

The demons saw Christ coming they knew who He was what did they say? "have you come to torment us before our time?" No remorse there is no repentance no salvation they know the truth never once did they or will they nor can they say "sorry sorry we are so unworthy". They knew the choice they made and are not sorry.

Its only here in this time bubble with MAN that we are blind to evil and truth. Its where some get the idea how easy it is to say yes to Jesus then the next moment say no. Easy to be saved yet easy to be lost. In truth were blind. As Christ said if you were blind you would have no sin you say you see your sin remains. Its why God rains on the just and unjust. HAHA we can say here WHO KNOWS GOD...no I mean KNOWS HIM! We don't we all have in His own way been given a taste where as the Angels that fell knew GOD in all this glory and power and then made the choice to leave. They know the choice they made and do not want to be with God. We can not understand this.

In truth most of this is just speculation. But know this man can say JESUS CAME IN THE FLESH and not mean it.. man can lie but a spirit can not confess Yeshua/Jesus Christ came in the flesh and its by the blood of YEHSUA/JESUS Christ we are washed. it IS in its self truth and they can never say it. Its why were told to test the spirits. Now they fallen angels can talk about God and what not but will never ever point to nor talk about Yeshua/Jesus Christ. They fear Him.. again no fallen angel will ever say Yeshua came in the flesh died for the sin of the world and was buried and rose the 3rd day is the only way to the Father. For that is truth and when GOD said there is NO truth in them.. they can not say it.

So those that left heaven..its already happened. They are not human they all knew the choice they made to stay to go and done. Its why there is no salvation for them that fell. They KNEW HIM who here does? I been alive what 61 years and I haha know the great I AM? Everytime I mean every time I think I know HIm He does something new and I feel I never knew Him its SO AWSOME! like the song playiung LOOK WHAT YOUVE DONE
 
MaryM said:
In the Bible Satan is described as a fallen angel, having originally been Lucifer who was beautiful and known as the Bringer of Light - if my understanding is right.

It is said there was war in heaven, Satan banished for challenging God and that many other angels, a third of the total, followed him.

So they comprise the evil presences here, leading mankind astray and corrupting souls until Jesus comes back and takes over. Then will be their final end and our heavenly eternity shall begin.
So, can we trust all the other angels in heaven? God couldn't.

I am really confused about this.
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Why do you need to trust the other angels? The ones left are trustworthy because they do God's bidding. Trust the 3-in-1 God through Jesus' perfectly-trustworthy life, death, and resurrection.
 
MaryM said:
In the Bible Satan is described as a fallen angel, having originally been Lucifer who was beautiful and known as the Bringer of Light - if my understanding is right.

It is said there was war in heaven, Satan banished for challenging God and that many other angels, a third of the total, followed him.

So they comprise the evil presences here, leading mankind astray and corrupting souls until Jesus comes back and takes over. Then will be their final end and our heavenly eternity shall begin.
So, can we trust all the other angels in heaven? God couldn't.

I am really confused about this.
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No need to be confused:

1 John 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

This applies to angels too. Test the spirits - better safe than sorry!
 
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MaryM said:
Then will be their final end and our heavenly eternity shall begin. So, can we trust all the other angels in heaven?
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Revelation 12 makes it clear that the holy angels can be trusted.

The evil angels which sinned prior to the Flood are now in their prison called Tartarus. All the other evil angels (except for the demons) presently occupy the first heaven. But God will have Michael and his holy angels drive out the evil angels from the first heaven and cast them down to earth. They will do much damage on earth, but will then be cast into the Lake of Fire. This will happen before the reign of the Antichrist. It almost seems that they have been recently cast down to earth. We have an unprecedented global effort going on right now to destroy humanity.

It has always been a puzzle as to why God has given Satan and his angels any freedom at all. Since Hell (the Lake of Fire) was created for the devil and his angels, they all should been locked up in Hell the day they were cast out of the third heaven (God's Heaven).
 
MaryM said:
In the Bible Satan is described as a fallen angel, having originally been Lucifer who was beautiful and known as the Bringer of Light - if my understanding is right.

It is said there was war in heaven, Satan banished for challenging God and that many other angels, a third of the total, followed him.

So they comprise the evil presences here, leading mankind astray and corrupting souls until Jesus comes back and takes over. Then will be their final end and our heavenly eternity shall begin.
So, can we trust all the other angels in heaven? God couldn't.

I am really confused about this.
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Nothing can happen that God does not see. We have nothing to fear when we acknowledge Him as our Father.

As far as angels go, there is no need to "trust" in them. Jesus is all we need.
 
We don't study the angels to know their intent, we study the Word to know Him who commands the angels.
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
It has always been a puzzle as to why God has given Satan and his angels any freedom at all.
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Satan has unwittingly been used as a tool many times by God. Fulfilling prophecies is but one example. Satan would have fought to keep Jesus off the cross if he had known what was about to happen and why.
Luke 17:1
“Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come!”
Matthew 18:7
“Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!”

Applies to men and devils alike. Pain that they inflict draws us closer, and temptation shows us where we are at spiritually.
 
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Happy_hobnob said:
What freedom is there in a fallen world, for those who don't accept Christ, or God's word, where can anyone Go in this world until they accept Christ, other than this world,
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Amen.
John 6:
67Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away? 68Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life. 69And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.
 
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SomeDisciple said:
All I can say is, you can probably trust Gabriel... If not, that's okay, he will probably just do something hilarious to you, like this-

19“I am Gabriel,” replied the angel. “I stand in the presence of God, and I have been sent to speak to you and to bring you this good news. 20And now you will be silent and unable to speak until the day this comes to pass, because you did not believe my words, which will be fulfilled at their proper time.”

:LOL:
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I would hate to see what happens when He brings bad news. :oops:
 
On different occasions holy angels came and ministered to Our Dear Lord when He was in dire need, and He gratefully received their aid! Matt 4v11, Luke 22v43,44, Heb 1v14...

So, should not we also gratefully receive their aid?
 
jb said:
On different occasions holy angels came and ministered to Our Dear Lord when He was in dire need, and He gratefully received their aid! Matt 4v11, Luke 22v43,44, Heb 1v14...

So, should not we also gratefully receive their aid?
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Yes.
 
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