Why Moses and Elijah were at the transfiguration.

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F2F

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When wasn't Christ the righteousness of God?
You would need to read and understand Hebrews 2 to answer that question...a man cannot be in the process of being made perfect if he already is - that would be impossible.
Just saying.
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Mem

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no,

our flesh is condemned because of sin.

in Jesus there is no sin and has never been any sin.

((Romans 3:23-24, 1 John 3:5))
If Jesus wasn't perfect until after He died, then His sacrifice wouldn't been accepted. The sacrifice is examined for imperfections before it is offered.
 

posthuman

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The weakness he died too he did once...the result of which made him the righteousness of God.
God does not become righteous by having sin in Himself, which condemns Him.

when He touches a dead body He does not become unclean, but the body becomes clean - because in Him there is no uncleanness.

if this were not so then there is no salvation:
a sacrifice must be unblemished. if Christ is tested and not found perfect then He cannot be the propitiation for sin.

The Lamb is spotless.
 

Cameron143

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If Jesus wasn't perfect until after He died, then His sacrifice wouldn't been accepted. The sacrifice is examined for imperfections before it is offered.
That's exactly what was happening when He entered Jerusalem from Palm Sunday until the crucifixion.
 

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no,

our flesh is condemned because of sin.

in Jesus there is no sin and has never been any sin.

((Romans 3:23-24, 1 John 3:5))
Correct there is no condemnation in Jesus because God removed it from His Son on the cross. That was the Victory!

Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death. For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh,[b] God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering.[c] And so he condemned sin in the flesh

Should you be tempted to say Jesus had no condemnation then why did God send His Son in the flesh? And what precisely in Jesus did God condemn?

I know why you cannot understand this...I think we both do! I am on the right side or truth whereas you are yet to open that door and walk through.

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posthuman

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Wow you are on a roll.
The point the writer is making is that Moses was in good health
"good health" is the nothing more than the slowest possible rate of dying from decay.

Moses's sight and his muscular tissue, cardiovascular, skeletal and circulatory systems were undiminished at 120 years old.
God took pains to tell us that. it is significant.

the body of Moses did not decay in the same way as a normal human's body did. this was not the result of diet and exercise.
 

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God does not become righteous by having sin in Himself, which condemns Him.

when He touches a dead body He does not become unclean, but the body becomes clean - because in Him there is no uncleanness.

if this were not so then there is no salvation:
a sacrifice must be unblemished. if Christ is tested and not found perfect then He cannot be the propitiation for sin.

The Lamb is spotless.
Correct and explain the process he went through to become that perfect lamb without spot!
 

posthuman

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Here is an example

And going a little farther he fell on his face and prayed, saying, “My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will.”
this is not expressing doubt.
this is Genesis 15, the burning lamp and smoking firepot.
it is the meniscus between the perfect justice and perfect everlasting lovingkindness of Yah.

What's in the cup?
Who is drinking it?
What's He doing by drinking it?
What happens to you soul if He drinks it?
What happens to your soul if He doesn't?
What does your soul deserve to have happen to it?
 

Mem

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whereas you are yet to open that door and walk through.
You keep saying this about 'that door' and walking through it, and this strikes me as very Justin Paul Abrahammy. By chance are you of the Company of Burning Hearts?
 

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The Bible does not say Moses' life was taken.
Christ has power to lay down His life and power to take it up again. no one can take it from Him, only He can lay it down.

in what universe would He possibly be afraid of death? did He forget what He has power to do? did He go insane?
 

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Christ has power to lay down His life and power to take it up again. no one can take it from Him, only He can lay it down.

in what universe would He possibly be afraid of death? did He forget what He has power to do? did He go insane?
He's either a liar, a lunatic, or Lord.
 
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Christ has power to lay down His life and power to take it up again. no one can take it from Him, only He can lay it down.
Yes, Jesus knew that if he remained sinless and gave his life that God would raise him from the dead.

in what universe would He possibly be afraid of death? did He forget what He has power to do? did He go insane?
Jesus did not want to go through what he knew was coming. That's why he asked God is there was any other way. There wasn't. So Jesus set aside his own will and did what God needed him to do.

Luke 22:42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.

It was not easy for him to do, but he did it.