Why Moses and Elijah were at the transfiguration.

[cv5]

Sure. But Satan wasn't a priest responsible for accepting or discarding lambs.

This test was an aspect of qualifying Jesus as the Second Adam.....

 

[posthuman]

"So Moses the servant of Yahweh died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of Yahweh" Verse 5

According to Yahweh's Word Moses died!! - that's without question!!! I am asking you why was his life taken and what did Israel learn from this?

The lesson is a portrait of Christ.
Everything in the scripture is.

The Word of God told him to go up the mountain and die. So he did. No one took it from him; noy even decay. he laid it down.
his body cannot be found.

Christ went and laid down His life. nothing can take it from, not sin, not decay, nothing. He laid it down and took it up again.
the tomb is empty. He rose bodily and ascended bodily. He cannot be found, but reveals Himself - as no one knows the Father except Him and who He chooses to to reveal Himself to.

Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God: the Jordan, flowing from Adam to the dead sea, was parted with the mantle of Elijah and a shout, "where is the LORD God?"

 

[cv5]

did He go insane?

Jesus Messiah knew that He would serve as the Lamb of God and suffer for the sins of the entire world........from eternity past. From time immemorial.

That kind of pressure would drive anyone insane.......other than Jesus!

 

[Cameron143]

This test was an aspect of qualifying Jesus as the Second Adam.....

I think it qualified Him as a spotless Lamb...holy and acceptable to God.

 

[posthuman]

Jesus is the Lamb of God (His Sacrifice) to take away the Sins of the Word.

Numbers 19:2
This is the ordinance of the law which the LORD has commanded, saying:
'Speak to the children of Israel, that they bring you a red heifer without blemish, in which there is no defect and on which a yoke has never come.'

 

[Magenta]

Should you be tempted to say Jesus had no condemnation then why did God
send His Son in the flesh? And what precisely in Jesus did God condemn?

He became a curse for us. That does not mean there was anything in Him to condemn.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that
whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

 

[cv5]

I think it qualified Him as a spotless Lamb...holy and acceptable to God.

No argument with that....

My point is that the first Adam failed in the confrontation/temptation with Satan and the Second Adam did not.

 

[Cameron143]

No argument with that....

My point is that the first Adam failed in the confrontation/temptation with Satan and the Second Adam did not.

And a fine point it is. My point was that Satan wasn't qualified to judge whether Jesus was acceptable or not.

 

[Mem]

This test was an aspect of qualifying Jesus as the Second Adam.....

Jesus Messiah knew that He would serve as the Lamb of God and suffer for the sins of the entire world........from eternity past. From time immemorial.

That kind of pressure would drive anyone insane.......other than Jesus!

I think it qualified Him as a spotless Lamb...holy and acceptable to God.

Numbers 19:2
This is the ordinance of the law which the LORD has commanded, saying:
'Speak to the children of Israel, that they bring you a red heifer without blemish, in which there is no defect and on which a yoke has never come.'

He became a curse for us. That does not mean there was anything in Him to condemn.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that
whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

I think this "perfect" love is exactly what was found in Jesus that was not found in any other man woman or child, that was the essence of His perfection. I would go as far to say this is the agony that He suffered in the garden while momentarily considering "another way." Being entirely selfless, his suffering didn't have to do with what He was about to go through, but rather a suffering by the thought of all of our states of being, eternally lost.

 

[F2F]

There was no condemnation to remove from Jesus Christ.

So why was he born of a woman; son of David after flesh and why would God condemn sin in the flesh of his son if it wasn't there to condemn?

You have much to think about!

From where I am standing your God and your Christ overcame nothing.

F2F

 

[F2F]

The all important question is how was sin represented in the body of Jesus?

 

[F2F]

If you say it wasn't then you have no atonement.

 

[cv5]

So why was he born of a woman; son of David after flesh and why would God condemn sin in the flesh of his son if it wasn't there to condemn?

You have much to think about!

From where I am standing your God and your Christ overcame nothing.

F2F

Does the type and OT concept of the Kinsman Redeemer escape you? Okay how about the Avenger of Blood?

 

[posthuman]

Re Moses - the lesson for Israel is that Yahweh demands total obedience and that the success of their entrance into the land de-
pended upon their individual application of His law.

Deuteronomy 32-34 is about Christ, see John 5:39

if you think the lesson is just "sin is bad mkay don't doit" and that's it, you are missing quite a lot of the intent of scripture. that lesson was covered in Genesis 3-4. it turns out there is much more to say!

 

[Mem]

If you say it wasn't then you have no atonement.

By the judgment of death.

 

[F2F]

Yes, Jesus knew that if he remained sinless and gave his life that God would raise him from the dead.


Jesus did not want to go through what he knew was coming. That's why he asked God is there was any other way. There wasn't. So Jesus set aside his own will and did what God needed him to do.

Luke 22:42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.

It was not easy for him to do, but he did it.

You are right in what you are saying but realize this: If you are saying Jesus had the mind of the flesh which we know he did - then he could not be God - impossible.

 

[F2F]

By the judgment of death.

If God judged "the wages of sin is death" in a man who knew no sin (and who died!) - God was right to raise his Son and bestow on him a name which is above every name! The condemnation of death must be in the Christ otherwise everyone in this forum is still in their sins.

F2F

 

[posthuman]

His Sacrifice for sin something you or I could not offer.

why not?

 

[Cameron143]

You are right in what you are saying but realize this: If you are saying Jesus had the mind of the flesh which we know he did - then he could not be God - impossible.

Rut ro Raggy. Someone had 1 too many Scooby snacks.

 

[posthuman]

I think not.....

Deu 31:2
And he said unto them, I am an hundred and twenty years old this day; I can no more go out and come in: also the LORD hath said unto me, Thou shalt not go over this Jordan.

Numbers 12:3
(Now the man Moses [was] very humble, more than all men who [were] on the face of the earth.)