Abortion Replaces the Flag

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Mem

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Thank you makes sense.

I never thought to just go back to through the thread, I just went back to my own content.

I am just to trusting I is.
I've developed a philosophy of radical skepticism. Even Leviathan's scales surely must have its weak points.
 
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#85
Abortion is murder. It's an abomination in the eyes of God. If there's one thing that God hates its “shedding of the innocent blood”. Woe to you, to the democrats and Christians who are in favor of that. For one day you will have to answer to God Almighty
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Salgado

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#86
Simply your (ignorant) opinion.

In you delusion, answer either or both of these questions...

a) Why did God allow Herod to kill all the (living) boys two years of age and younger to be killed?
b) Why did God kill all the firstborn of Egypt, humans and animals?
Hello sir. God bless you. I pray that the Lord opens your eyes and that you repent and turn towards him. It’s not my opinion. It’s the living Word of God. It’s what God says. All the over the Bible God talks about how much he adores his children including babies still in the womb, unborn fetus, and he even said he loved us and made the plans for our lives before we even came into existence.

“For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb.

I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well.

My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth.

Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.” proverbs 139:13-16



“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.” Jeremiah 1:5



God hates murder. Thou shall not murder. Read this verse.

“There are six things the LORD hates, seven that are detestable to him:

haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood,

a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil,

a false witness who pours out lies and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.” Proverbs 6:16-19. Hands that shed innocent blood. Who are the innocent? The children, the babies, the unborn fetus. Those are God’s very words. I encourage you to read the Bible and see yourself, don’t take my word for it, but look it up. For from the Bible comes all truth and knowledge and wisdom given by the Holy Spirit. Children are god’s prized possession. So why would God be in favor of abortion? Think about it. It makes sense.



P.S. you also have to understand that god gave each man a will. A will to either do good or do bad. If we do good then god will reward us. If we do bad then we will be punished with gods wrath. “For the wages of sin are death.” But because of Christ we are forgiven and made new and have eternal life. “ I have come here so that they may life and live it abundantly. I have come to set the captives free.” That being said, Herod was under control of Satan, he was trying everything in his power to get rid of the coming Messiah. And he ultimately failed. That’s man that did that. Not god. Because man himself is evil. Everything that comes from god is love, joy, peace, forgiveness, mercy, meekness, righteousness, holiness.



P.S.S. If you read the Bible in the book of Exodus. You see that God commanded Moses to tell pharaoh to let the Israelites go; God’s chosen people. They have been slaves to Egypt for thousands of years and have been treated unimaginably cruel and vigorously. It was time for god to redeem his people. For god is a vindicator. He is also a righteous god and a just god. And a god of judgment. And he pays to each according to what they done. To the righteous he will show mercy. And to the wicked he will show them his wrath. “I will bless those who bless you, and I will curse those who curse you.” And when Pharaoh hardened his heart and didn’t let the Israelites go, God warned Pharaoh that he would show him his wrath and send him plagues. After nine plagues he still didn’t let them go. So he had to do one ultimate plague that would free his people. God didn’t want to do this but he knew he had to. Keep in mind that not all the firstborn of Egypt were innocent children. They were older and heirs of their fathers. Also note that god protected his children, the Israelites, for they put the blood of the lamb on their door that they may be saved.



Also note that “god’s ways are higher than our ways. God’s thoughts are higher than our thoughts.” For we are only human. He is God. We’re not. Who are we to argue with him? Who are we to question him? We must simply live by faith, believe in him without a doubt, and do his will. Even if we don’t understand it all, it doesn’t matter. If God says it, then we do it. If God says it, then it’s true. If God says it, then we believe it. Simple as that. Read the Bible, pray to God. Repent of your sins. Accept Christ as your Lord and Savior. Ask the Holy Spirit to guide you and lead you.



God bless you sir. I will be praying for you
 
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#87
Hello sir. God bless you. I pray that the Lord opens your eyes and that you repent and turn towards him. It’s not my opinion. It’s the living Word of God. It’s what God says. All the over the Bible God talks about how much he adores his children including babies still in the womb, unborn fetus, and he even said he loved us and made the plans for our lives before we even came into existence.

“For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb.

I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well.

My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth.

Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.” proverbs 139:13-16



“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.” Jeremiah 1:5



God hates murder. Thou shall not murder. Read this verse.

“There are six things the LORD hates, seven that are detestable to him:

haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood,

a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil,

a false witness who pours out lies and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.” Proverbs 6:16-19. Hands that shed innocent blood. Who are the innocent? The children, the babies, the unborn fetus. Those are God’s very words. I encourage you to read the Bible and see yourself, don’t take my word for it, but look it up. For from the Bible comes all truth and knowledge and wisdom given by the Holy Spirit. Children are god’s prized possession. So why would God be in favor of abortion? Think about it. It makes sense.



P.S. you also have to understand that god gave each man a will. A will to either do good or do bad. If we do good then god will reward us. If we do bad then we will be punished with gods wrath. “For the wages of sin are death.” But because of Christ we are forgiven and made new and have eternal life. “ I have come here so that they may life and live it abundantly. I have come to set the captives free.” That being said, Herod was under control of Satan, he was trying everything in his power to get rid of the coming Messiah. And he ultimately failed. That’s man that did that. Not god. Because man himself is evil. Everything that comes from god is love, joy, peace, forgiveness, mercy, meekness, righteousness, holiness.



P.S.S. If you read the Bible in the book of Exodus. You see that God commanded Moses to tell pharaoh to let the Israelites go; God’s chosen people. They have been slaves to Egypt for thousands of years and have been treated unimaginably cruel and vigorously. It was time for god to redeem his people. For god is a vindicator. He is also a righteous god and a just god. And a god of judgment. And he pays to each according to what they done. To the righteous he will show mercy. And to the wicked he will show them his wrath. “I will bless those who bless you, and I will curse those who curse you.” And when Pharaoh hardened his heart and didn’t let the Israelites go, God warned Pharaoh that he would show him his wrath and send him plagues. After nine plagues he still didn’t let them go. So he had to do one ultimate plague that would free his people. God didn’t want to do this but he knew he had to. Keep in mind that not all the firstborn of Egypt were innocent children. They were older and heirs of their fathers. Also note that god protected his children, the Israelites, for they put the blood of the lamb on their door that they may be saved.



Also note that “god’s ways are higher than our ways. God’s thoughts are higher than our thoughts.” For we are only human. He is God. We’re not. Who are we to argue with him? Who are we to question him? We must simply live by faith, believe in him without a doubt, and do his will. Even if we don’t understand it all, it doesn’t matter. If God says it, then we do it. If God says it, then it’s true. If God says it, then we believe it. Simple as that. Read the Bible, pray to God. Repent of your sins. Accept Christ as your Lord and Savior. Ask the Holy Spirit to guide you and lead you.



God bless you sir. I will be praying for you
This is a great reply
 

gb9

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Garbage. I'm putting you on ignore. P.S. Koop is dead.
so, why do you feel the need to announce that?

if you do not want to read what someone writes, just do not read it.

or put them on ignore and keep it to yourself.
 

ResidentAlien

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#89
This is just nonsense. Do you believe that a fetus can make decisions?
Repent while you still can.

"Do not speak in the hearing of a fool, for he will despise the wisdom of your words." Proverbs 23:9
 

Karlon

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#90
Is abortion a misunderstood word? NOT AT ALL! The meaning of abortion could be the most misrepresented word in the English language, purposely done so. How about this: All of you in this world who believe in abortion, would you be willing to be aborted?
 
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Wierd. I never trust anyone who makes claims of intellectual elite status.
If you're referring to me, I never made a claim of intellectual elite status. If you're referring to my being in the top 1% of general intelligence (Intertel and Mensa membership), that is easily documented.

Not trusting intellectual elites says something about yourself, not those whom you don't trust.
 
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#92
Is abortion a misunderstood word? NOT AT ALL! The meaning of abortion could be the most misrepresented word in the English language, purposely done so. How about this: All of you in this world who believe in abortion, would you be willing to be aborted?
a) that is impossible if you're already born.
b) abortion, by definition, is the termination of a pregnancy.
 

Karlon

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#93
a) that is impossible if you're already born.
b) abortion, by definition, is the termination of a pregnancy.
alright jay: killed? everyone who believes in abortion, would you be willing to be killed?
 

HeIsHere

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If you're referring to me, I never made a claim of intellectual elite status. If you're referring to my being in the top 1% of general intelligence (Intertel and Mensa membership), that is easily documented.

Not trusting intellectual elites says something about yourself, not those whom you don't trust.
Anyone who believes an IQ test measures intelligence does not understand intelligence.
 
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#96
I never thought of this but wow imagine the remorse and regret.

I like to argue and discuss different views but when a "christian' defends abortion, I cannot wrap my head around it.
Well, wrap your head around this: not every pregnancy results in a live birth. There are a variety of reasons, the most common being a fetal anomaly, such as a non-functioning vital organ, that prevents the fetus from surviving outside the womb. Another is the danger to the pregnant woman's life, such as an ectopic pregnancy.
 

HeIsHere

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Well, wrap your head around this: not every pregnancy results in a live birth. There are a variety of reasons, the most common being a fetal anomaly, such as a non-functioning vital organ, that prevents the fetus from surviving outside the womb. Another is the danger to the pregnant woman's life, such as an ectopic pregnancy.
Wrap your head around this, I have known many parents who did not abort their baby who had a fetal abnormality and guess what the baby survived and thrived.

But let's move on shall we, to more cogent, coherent, evidenced based arguments.

Appealing to outlier situations and extreme cases does not make an argument nor does it justify abortion on demand.

I am waiting for your moral and scientific argument which supports abortion on demand until birth.

You speak in generalities but are never quite forthcoming with your full position.

So do you have a well thought out argument? And do you have a clear position any limits/non limits to abortion you can articulate clearly?
 

Cameron143

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You head wrappers should get second jobs at Christmas wrapping presents at the mall.