The plan to destroy America

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Cameron143 said:
Some would consider that the position of the weaker brother in Christ.
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Let me ask you this...

God told us thousands of years ago where the world will end up

Do you really think you can vote your way out of that? That your vote can over-ride what God has prophesied?

So the question is, why did God warn us?

So we can try and stop it?

Or so we would prepare for it?

Far too many of us are too preoccupied with the former to do the latter
 
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ZNP said:
The most powerful vote is with your feet. As long as the Christians simply whine and complain this will continue with the hope that you eventually lose focus.

Shake off the dust as a testimony against the public school and walk out. That will have a tremendous impact. If 50% of citizens pull their kids you can then have a powerful case to say that tax money for education needs to follow the child whether a private school, public school, or Christian school.

In the meantime set up homeschools through your church and begin to go through the process to get them accredited.
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As well as pack the school boards by voting in Christians. And don't forget to run as a candidate.
 
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JTB said:
Let me ask you this...

God told us thousands of years ago where the world will end up

Do you really think you can vote your way out of that? That your vote can over-ride what God has prophesied?

So the question is, why did God warn us?

So we can try and stop it?

Or so we would prepare for it?

Far too many of us are too preoccupied with the former to do the latter
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My hope isn't in Trump, but God. And while I agree that what God has purposed will indeed come to pass, I don't think we are anywhere near the end. Even if I did, I would still persevere to the end, not limp.
 
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cv5 said:
But can you vote to keep twerking classes and pedo grooming out of grade schools and public libraries?
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You really think voting it out of schools and libraries is really going to keep it out of schools and libraries?
 
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Cameron143 said:
Trump can be called alot of things...more of the same isn't one of them. Neither do I believe DeSantis would be.
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You know, nothing that happens during the tribulation is new. These will all be events which have happened before; what we're going to see is just on a grander scale than ever before.

trump is more of the same. What you see as difference is only grandeur. What's new is the scale.
 
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Cameron143 said:
My hope isn't in Trump, but God. And while I agree that what God has purposed will indeed come to pass, I don't think we are anywhere near the end. Even if I did, I would still persevere to the end, not limp.
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Amen my friend. God says that perseverance is the key. That's my plan no matter what happens.

Sadly tho, He says many will not
 
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JTB said:
You really think voting it out of schools and libraries is really going to keep it out of schools and libraries?
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Okay have it your way. You can deal with the consequences.
 
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JTB said:
You really think voting it out of schools and libraries is really going to keep it out of schools and libraries?
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One morning on his summer vacation a young boy rushes into his grandfather's room and wakes him. His grandfather had promised to take him to the beach early that day and the boy was teeming with anticipation. As the two arrived at the shoreline, they saw the beach littered with starfish and the tidewaters going out.
The elderly man began to gently pick up the helpless creatures and place them into the water. The boy, recognizing the immensity of the task and the impossibility of saving all the starfish, asks his grandfather why he continued to pick up starfish after starfish and place them in the water. "Grandpa, what difference will it make? What will it matter?"
The elderly gent reached down again and picked up another starfish and showed it to the lad. As he placed it in the water he said, "It matters to this one. "

Edward Everett Hale...
I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do something that I can do.
 
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JTB said:
You know, nothing that happens during the tribulation is new. These will all be events which have happened before; what we're going to see is just on a grander scale than ever before.

trump is more of the same. What you see as difference is only grandeur. What's new is the scale.
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That's your take and I respect that. My version has a fairytale like ending.
 
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Cameron143 said:
One morning on his summer vacation a young boy rushes into his grandfather's room and wakes him. His grandfather had promised to take him to the beach early that day and the boy was teeming with anticipation. As the two arrived at the shoreline, they saw the beach littered with starfish and the tidewaters going out.
The elderly man began to gently pick up the helpless creatures and place them into the water. The boy, recognizing the immensity of the task and the impossibility of saving all the starfish, asks his grandfather why he continued to pick up starfish after starfish and place them in the water. "Grandpa, what difference will it make? What will it matter?"
The elderly gent reached down again and picked up another starfish and showed it to the lad. As he placed it in the water he said, "It matters to this one. "

Edward Everett Hale...
I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do something that I can do.
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Exactly.

God prophesied that many of His will be drawn away by false prophets, and they will turn away from Him because they were not prepared. I know that beach is far too great for me to change. But somewhere, there will be a starfish I can help save. And for that I push on against great odds.
 
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Cameron143 said:
That's your take and I respect that. My version has a fairytale like ending.
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We DO have a fairy tale ending coming.

The issue is what happens between now and then.
 
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cv5 said:
As well as pack the school boards by voting in Christians. And don't forget to run as a candidate.
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I don't know if you are allowed to go to the school board meeting if you don't have children in the school. Also, if you were setting up homeschools through the church it seems to be a conflict with being on the school board for a public school.

Each one of us should so as the Lord leads, but I would not be interested in compromise, because compromise leads to eliminating prayer from school, and eliminating the Bible from the curriculum, etc., etc, etc....
 
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Rob Schmitt Tonight': US Becoming 'Banana Republic' With Trump Case

https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/donald-trump-alvin-bragg-arrest/2023/03/20/id/1112832/

On Monday's episode of "Rob Schmitt Tonight," the Newsmax host launched a week-long series of "Get Trump" segments, devoted to the left's obsession with taking down former President Donald Trump.

Here are some excerpts from Schmitt's monologue, which primarily dealt with Trump's case with the Manhattan District Attorney's Office and could potentially involve an arrest as early as Tuesday.

Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg is "set to make history by exposing the United States as the banana republic it's slowly becoming," said Schmitt.
 
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JTB said:
Let me ask you this...

God told us thousands of years ago where the world will end up

Do you really think you can vote your way out of that? That your vote can over-ride what God has prophesied?

So the question is, why did God warn us?

So we can try and stop it?

Or so we would prepare for it?

Far too many of us are too preoccupied with the former to do the latter
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You are not gonna stop or even delay anything voting radical left I can tell you that.
 
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Cameron143 said:
I think we just progressively win.
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And that is your enormous folly right there. And the reason that your posts are for the most part wet as a noodle and pointless.
The Sadducees had a similar philosophy as well. Everything was all about the here and now, without the need for a glorious, dramatic prophetic intervention by God Himself.

I would urge you to "get real" and get a grip on Biblical prophecy. For starters.

Luk 21:24
“And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

That "UNTIL" is now.........recent history. Like it or not.
 
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cv5 said:
And that is your enormous folly right there. And the reason that your posts are for the most part wet as a noodle and pointless.
The Sadducees had a similar philosophy as well. Everything was all about the here and now, without the need for a glorious, dramatic prophetic intervention by God Himself.

I would urge you to "get real" and get a grip on Biblical prophecy. For starters.

Luk 21:24
“And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

That "UNTIL" is now.........recent history. Like it or not.
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Throughout history, many have been told of their folly. Fultons Folly...and yet his steamship revolutionized river travel. Sewards Folly...and yet Alaska has greatly enhanced and profited.
People of vision are never persuaded by others lack of it. They just let everyone else catch up.
 
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Cameron143 said:
Throughout history, many have been told of their folly. Fultons Folly...and yet his steamship revolutionized river travel. Sewards Folly...and yet Alaska has greatly enhanced and profited.
People of vision are never persuaded by others lack of it. They just let everyone else catch up.
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Whatever......
" And the reason that your posts are for the most part wet as a noodle and pointless. "

Good luck hoping that men of good will are going to save you, your family or the nation.
 
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cv5 said:
Whatever......
" And the reason that your posts are for the most part wet as a noodle and pointless. "

Good luck hoping that men of good will are going to save you, your family or the nation.
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Because someone doesn't believe as you is no reason to assign to them false beliefs. My hope, like yours, is in Christ. And He always wins.
 
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Cameron143 said:
Because someone doesn't believe as you is no reason to assign to them false beliefs. My hope, like yours, is in Christ. And He always wins.
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IMO, a supposed Christian who does NOT believe what Paul, Jude and Peter believed per the prophets is no Christian at all.
BTW.....you rarely (very rarely) support anything you propose by referencing Scripture. A glaring and obvious deficiency IMO.

Jde 1:14
Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints,
Jde 1:15
“to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”

2Pe 3:2
that you may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us, the apostles of the Lord and Savior,

Act 3:21
“whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began.

Act 24:14
“But this I confess to you, that according to the Way which they call a sect, so I worship the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the Law and in the Prophets.
 
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