The plan to destroy America

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ZNP said:
Ultra right as opposed to Michelob Ultra? How about Deplorable beer?
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Think of the commercials, some backwoods guy sitting besides his trailer saying "this beer is deplorable" Meanwhile they can be sitting their taking pot shots at Bud Light cans on the fence posts.
 
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ZNP said:
Think of the commercials, some backwoods guy sitting besides his trailer saying "this beer is deplorable" Meanwhile they can be sitting their taking pot shots at Bud Light cans on the fence posts.
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that would be a good one!!
 
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It seems that these documents recently leaked about the Pentagon's briefings on the war in Ukraine is "the plan to destroy America". Let's have a war that requires a blank check, let's launder 10% of that money back to the people in power, lie to the American people about the war, lie about the US involvement, lie about the fact that we are losing, lie about the consequences for Taiwan and national security. But now we are also seeing how corrupt our media is to hide the truth and be in lock step with the liars.
 
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ZNP said:
It seems that these documents recently leaked about the Pentagon's briefings on the war in Ukraine is "the plan to destroy America". Let's have a war that requires a blank check, let's launder 10% of that money back to the people in power, lie to the American people about the war, lie about the US involvement, lie about the fact that we are losing, lie about the consequences for Taiwan and national security. But now we are also seeing how corrupt our media is to hide the truth and be in lock step with the liars.
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this stuff is not a surprise to many of us.

the america we grew up in , in the 70's, 80's 90', ( my generation) is long gone.
 
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https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/trading-with-the-enemy

Seymour Hersh:
What also is unknown (to clueless Americans!) is that Zelensky has been buying the fuel from Russia, the country with which it, and Washington, are at war, and the Ukrainian president and many in his entourage have been skimming untold millions from the American dollars earmarked for diesel fuel payments.
One estimate by analysts from the Central Intelligence Agency put the embezzled funds at $400 million last year, at least; another expert compared the level of corruption in Kiev as approaching that of the Afghan war, “although there will be no professional audit reports emerging from the Ukraine.”

“Zelensky’s been buying discount diesel from the Russians,” one knowledgeable American intelligence official told me. “And who’s paying for the gas and oil? We are. Putin and his oligarchs are making millions” on it.

Many government ministries in Kiev have been literally “competing,” I was told, to set up front companies for export contracts for weapons and ammunition with private arms dealers around the world, all of which provide kickbacks. Many of those companies are in Poland and Czechia, but others are thought to exist in the Persian Gulf and Israel. “I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that there are others in places like the Cayman Islands and Panama, and there are lots of Americans involved,” an American expert on international trade told me.

The issue of corruption was directly raised with Zelensky in a meeting last January in Kiev with CIA Director William Burns. His message to the Ukrainian president, I was told by an intelligence official with direct knowledge of the meeting, was out of a 1950s mob movie. The senior generals and government officials in Kiev were angry at what they saw as Zelensky’s greed, so Burns told the Ukrainian president, because “he was taking a larger share of the skim money than was going to the generals.”

Burns also presented Zelensky with a list of thirty-five generals and senior officials whose corruption was known to the CIA and others in the American government. Zelensky responded to the American pressure ten days later by publicly dismissing ten of the most ostentatious officials on the list and doing little else. “The ten he got rid of were brazenly bragging about the money they had—driving around Kiev in their new Mercedes,” the intelligence official told me.
 
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cv5 said:
Does the term "portentous" mean anything to you?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1646293904822530049
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Gold is up about 16% relative to the dollar over the last two years (Biden's presidency) and to me that really should be a straight line and thus the US dollar is down 16% due to inflation. There has been a hidden tax of 16% that has been taken out of every bank account, every investment, every holding of every American. People think that the Dow is essentially flat over the last two years, no, on paper it looks the same but in reality 2023 dollars are worth 16% less than 2021 dollars. Same thing with the S&P 500. Same thing with your house.

However, oil is up from $48 a barrel to $80 a barrel. That would suggest that the real inflation is around 67%. Therefore I suggest that gold price is a lagging indicator of inflation while oil price is predictive of where it is going. So although we have suffered 16% inflation, that is averaging 8% a year and according to history that means we will have five more years of high inflation, but if oil prices don't come down soon we will eclipse that number with staggering inflation closer to 30% per year.

The difference is going to be AI. Businesses will be able to operate at a 30% reduction in cost (cut out labor) but that in turn will result in unemployment on a scale we have never seen, depression and a welfare state worse than any in human history. We know that the elites consider unemployed "useless eaters" so that should give you an idea of where we are headed.
 
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ZNP said:
Gold is up about 16% relative to the dollar over the last two years (Biden's presidency) and to me that really should be a straight line and thus the US dollar is down 16% due to inflation. There has been a hidden tax of 16% that has been taken out of every bank account, every investment, every holding of every American. People think that the Dow is essentially flat over the last two years, no, on paper it looks the same but in reality 2023 dollars are worth 16% less than 2021 dollars. Same thing with the S&P 500. Same thing with your house.

However, oil is up from $48 a barrel to $80 a barrel. That would suggest that the real inflation is around 67%. Therefore I suggest that gold price is a lagging indicator of inflation while oil price is predictive of where it is going. So although we have suffered 16% inflation, that is averaging 8% a year and according to history that means we will have five more years of high inflation, but if oil prices don't come down soon we will eclipse that number with staggering inflation closer to 30% per year.

The difference is going to be AI. Businesses will be able to operate at a 30% reduction in cost (cut out labor) but that in turn will result in unemployment on a scale we have never seen, depression and a welfare state worse than any in human history. We know that the elites consider unemployed "useless eaters" so that should give you an idea of where we are headed.
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Both commodities have unpredictable "wildcard" geopolitical components.
Neutron bombs in the Saudi oilfields or an OPEC announcement for a gold/oil trade, or a bankster weekend "revaluation" for example.

Use your imagination.
 
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cv5 said:
Both commodities have unpredictable "wildcard" geopolitical components.
Neutron bombs in the Saudi oilfields or an OPEC announcement for a gold/oil trade, or a bankster weekend "revaluation" for example.

Use your imagination.
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Why use my imagination when I can read Revelation?
 
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ZNP said:
Why use my imagination when I can read Revelation?
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In order to ascertain the present state of affairs at a finer, higher resolution. So that your family might somehow be prepared for the worst.
 
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