Survival/Preppers

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Reading a series of books by Millie Copper called Havoc in Wyoming, I have really begun to understand what could happen. It is classed as 'cosy apocalypse' writing as I do not want to frighten myself too much nor do I want graphic or violent stuff. This is about a Christian family who are Preppers and how they and their community adapt to the situations after terrorists attack America. I am finding it compelling as well as full of valuable information.

I live in the UK and am not at all prepared! I don't have money and resources to do much but would welcome basic advice.
I respect those who are well prepared for catastrophic events, it is wise, although it is fascinating to read on the internet about extremely wealthy people who have built luxury bunkers just in case. That might be taking it too far?
 
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I know several preppers....
It's a hobby.
It can get really expensive too. But I seriously doubt it will ever be necessary....and if it does you really don't want to live through it anyway.
 
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MaryM said:
Reading a series of books by Millie Copper called Havoc in Wyoming, I have really begun to understand what could happen. It is classed as 'cosy apocalypse' writing as I do not want to frighten myself too much nor do I want graphic or violent stuff. This is about a Christian family who are Preppers and how they and their community adapt to the situations after terrorists attack America. I am finding it compelling as well as full of valuable information.

I live in the UK and am not at all prepared! I don't have money and resources to do much but would welcome basic advice.
I respect those who are well prepared for catastrophic events, it is wise, although it is fascinating to read on the internet about extremely wealthy people who have built luxury bunkers just in case. That might be taking it too far?
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Matthew 16:25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

I try to have in store some long life food - rice, pasta, tinned food, water, medical and toilet supplies, candles, batteries, vitamins, etc. Not so much it'll go to waste (get stuff you will use eventually), but enough on hand that one could live on it for a month or so if needs be. In a total collapse, there's a good chance you'd be raided anyway, unless you stock weapons and know how to use 'em.

I would like to go the secret luxury bunker on a far-away property route, but it can get expensive quickly.
 
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We should always be prepared to support ourselves with food and water for at least 30 days. Natural disasters (and some man-made) can occur anywhere and at any time. As Moses_Young explained this is stuff you can use and replace regularly so it is not expensive. If "The Big One" comes you should be prepared in other ways. :)
 
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Absolutely.
During the covid pandemic we saw how quickly things go downhill. Human behaviour is astonishing, the selfishness and aggression is only just under the surface.
Some degree of preparation is wise.
 
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MaryM said:
Absolutely.
During the covid pandemic we saw how quickly things go downhill. Human behaviour is astonishing, the selfishness and aggression is only just under the surface.
Some degree of preparation is wise.
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I've read a shutdown of between a few weeks and up to a few months is coming, probably with military lockdown. Similar to covid lockdowns, but instead of being beaten by the police if you breach it, you'll get shot by the military. It'll probably tie in with the Russia/NATO escapades and nuclear threats.
 
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MaryM said:
Absolutely.
During the covid pandemic we saw how quickly things go downhill. Human behaviour is astonishing, the selfishness and aggression is only just under the surface.
Some degree of preparation is wise.
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They beat you out of toilet paper at the local store eh?
We were in the same shape. I didn't even know it was a thing until I went to get some (because we were out) and that was when I found out.

It got close for us but eventually I got a pack of cheap stuff that we survived on until I could get the normal Charmin.
 
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Moses_Young said:
I've read a shutdown of between a few weeks and up to a few months is coming, probably with military lockdown. Similar to covid lockdowns, but instead of being beaten by the police if you breach it, you'll get shot by the military. It'll probably tie in with the Russia/NATO escapades and nuclear threats.
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Nuclear warfare is a "last ditch" effort that a nation will employ to either employ MAD or to save themselves from complete destruction.

It's not used as something you extort others with as Putin has done....because the entire world will come against you for it in every way possible. (And they have)

As much as Putin and China has tried to cozy up to Brazil....still not going to work out for Brazil....as they will figure out soon enough.

If one ICBM from one of Russian launchpad are fired off that isn't a test....Russia flat out won't exist anymore. Period. It isn't like our missiles aren't aimed that general direction to start with. We have excellent MERV tech that nobody can stop with stealth missiles and etc.

ICBMs are visible to EVERYONE once they get into the upper atmosphere and especially once they leave it.

60-80% of the population lives near coastlines. Easy targets but little infrastructure. Meaning that Blue states go first...the red states will be the ones left behind. (The exact opposite of every rapture theory book)
 
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Well, here in the UK we do not have guns of course. If the worst happens, such as internet and power gone, all supplies scarce, how can we protect ourselves?
The thought is so shocking that I suppose most of us just do not think about it.
 
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Everyone should read about the 1942 Henan famine, or about famines in general. Or about the Great Depression.

There is really not much you can do. Even then we ourselves could potentially become monsters; this should be a bigger concern than fending off outside monsters.
 
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I was going to start a thread similar to this one too. I think we are in a lull before the storm, but God only knows. The great reset that they have planned is a serious combination of events to do at very minimum the following.

A. Eliminate the federal reserve note/ US dollar of it's value. By doing so, they..

B. Eliminate the middle class. By doing this, they have defeated their competition and military opposition.

C. Bring about more major attacks on infrastructure, energy, transportation agriculture and fuel.

D. Impose martial law permanently as they ...

E. Begin WW3

A THROUGH E ARE THE CATALYSTS FOR SATAN TO BRING ABOUT WORLD DOMINATION.

He then brings about "world peace" as the false man of peace...

There's much more to be said, but that's enough for now. I have the solutions but need the time, energy and help to be able to apply them, by God's awesome grace. If anyone is to become my helper, she will have to agree to my goals and purpose.
I have a Master and His Name is the LORD Jesus Christ.
We must plan to survive this so we can continue to lead as many to Jesus Christ as possible. Regardless of any assistance , I want to become a healthy, productive soul winning machine until the Lord calls me home. People's everlasting souls are all that will really survive the wrath of God when we leave this place. May those of us who are believers work towards those goals.
 
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MsMediator said:
Everyone should read about the 1942 Henan famine, or about famines in general. Or about the Great Depression.

There is really not much you can do. Even then we ourselves could potentially become monsters; this should be a bigger concern than fending off outside monsters.
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Actually, even in the thick of the covid crisis I found myself thinking very selfish thoughts and not liking myself. The survival instinct is a powerful thing. That is when prayer is our weapon, to ask to be led by our Lord Jesus not by our weak frightened selves.
 
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HealthAndHappiness said:
I was going to start a thread similar to this one too. I think we are in a lull before the storm, but God only knows. The great reset that they have planned is a serious combination of events to do at very minimum the following.

A. Eliminate the federal reserve note/ US dollar of it's value. By doing so, they..

B. Eliminate the middle class. By doing this, they have defeated their competition and military opposition.

C. Bring about more major attacks on infrastructure, energy, transportation agriculture and fuel.

D. Impose martial law permanently as they ...

E. Begin WW3

A THROUGH E ARE THE CATALYSTS FOR SATAN TO BRING ABOUT WORLD DOMINATION.

He then brings about "world peace" as the false man of peace...

There's much more to be said, but that's enough for now. I have the solutions but need the time, energy and help to be able to apply them, by God's awesome grace. If anyone is to become my helper, she will have to agree to my goals and purpose.
I have a Master and His Name is the LORD Jesus Christ.
We must plan to survive this so we can continue to lead as many to Jesus Christ as possible. Regardless of any assistance , I want to become a healthy, productive soul winning machine until the Lord calls me home. People's everlasting souls are all that will really survive the wrath of God when we leave this place. May those of us who are believers work towards those goals.
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Amen.
 
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That's quite a bit of water.
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It is, and storing that much water does present real problems. For two people, the contents of your hot water heater may be enough. There are also water purification systems available that are inexpensive. A small portable generator may allow you to operate your well pump if you are off-the-grid for few days. Some people also install a small hand pump on their well to use when/if power goes out.
 
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Seeker47 said:
It is, and storing that much water does present real problems. For two people, the contents of your hot water heater may be enough. There are also water purification systems available that are inexpensive. A small portable generator may allow you to operate your well pump if you are off-the-grid for few days. Some people also install a small hand pump on their well to use when/if power goes out.
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We don't have a well, we don't own land. But all these are practicality. We could improvise.

In the novels I am coming across so many American words and terms I am unfamiliar with and I am learning a lot just looking things up. One day these ideas could be crucial.
 
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MaryM said:
We don't have a well, we don't own land. But all these are practicality. We could improvise.

In the novels I am coming across so many American words and terms I am unfamiliar with and I am learning a lot just looking things up. One day these ideas could be crucial.
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You live in the UK?

It rains a LOT there....so a system or plan to catch and store rainwater and then filter and sanitize it is all you really need.
Lifestraws are the popular choice. But there are cheaper options like sand filters with the proper enzymes. Cost is like £20 of PVC plastic plumbing, buckets, and the "dirt" for the filter....really makes a great glass of water.
 
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MaryM said:
We don't have a well, we don't own land. But all these are practicality. We could improvise.

In the novels I am coming across so many American words and terms I am unfamiliar with and I am learning a lot just looking things up. One day these ideas could be crucial.
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Do you have a way to collect rainwater?
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I just saw JBD asked the sameQ.
You and your husband might want to begin working toward buying a lot in the countryside. It probably won't need to be far from town, but the further, the lower the cost generally. There you won't have to depend upon city or national gt aid IF that ever occurs.
 
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Moses_Young said:
I've read a shutdown of between a few weeks and up to a few months is coming, probably with military lockdown. Similar to covid lockdowns, but instead of being beaten by the police if you breach it, you'll get shot by the military. It'll probably tie in with the Russia/NATO escapades and nuclear threats.
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This is a hardy perennial. I have heard it for decades and will probably keep hearing it from fear-loving friends until the day I die.
 
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