Trinity mystery

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FrankSophia

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We see in 1 John 5:7 a statement about the persons.

We also see in John 17:26, Ephesians 4:6, and 1 Corinthians 6:19 that each person is within us.

Galatians 4:6 is also important here.

Are any living as that union?
 
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FrankSophia said:
We see in 1 John 5:7 a statement about the persons.

We also see in John 17:26, Ephesians 4:6, and 1 Corinthians 6:19 that each person is within us.

Galatians 4:6 is also important here.

Are any living as that union?
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Are you talking about God the father God the son God the holy spirit ? As 3 persons
 
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Fundaamental said:
as separate persons or one or in different fruits but one
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They are different aspects, they reveal different dimensions of truth.

The Father reveals to me the transcendent, the Holy Spirit reveals the omnipresent, and the Son is the resulting activity.

This is not a statement about their cosmic relationship, but how they manifest in me.
 
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FrankSophia said:
They are different aspects, they reveal different dimensions of truth.

The Father reveals to me the transcendent, the Holy Spirit reveals the omnipresent, and the Son is the resulting activity.

This is not a statement about their cosmic relationship, but how they manifest in me.
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interesting concept 😊.
I've always seen it that fruits after recieving Christ hold the wisdom of the father son and the holy spirit.
 
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Fundaamental said:
interesting concept 😊.
I've always seen it that fruits after recieving Christ hold the wisdom of the father son and the holy spirit.
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You don't receive Christ, you become Christ.

Not to be mistaken for Jesus who remains the eternal priest.

We receive the Spirit and encounter the Father.
 
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FrankSophia

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The Father isn't actually an experience, experience ceases for a time...

You just know when it comes back that you know the Father now.
 
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FrankSophia said:
You don't receive Christ, you become Christ.

Not to be mistaken for Jesus who remains the eternal priest.

We receive the Spirit and encounter the Father.
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are you basing that of this
John 17:26 have made you known to them, and will continue to make you known in order that the love you have for me may be in them and that I myself may be in them.”
 
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Fundaamental said:
are you basing that of this
John 17:26 have made you known to them, and will continue to make you known in order that the love you have for me may be in them and that I myself may be in them.”
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I'm basing it on experience, but John seems to be referencing the same there... and you will have seen me quoting this about 50 times already because it's my favorite passage.
 
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FrankSophia said:
I'm basing it on experience, but John seems to be referencing the same there... and you will have seen me quoting this about 50 times already because it's my favorite passage.
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ok friend 😊 could you see tha his love is part of his spirit, that his fruit love protects your mind, but theese are attribute of his spirit and not his whole spirit along with kindness.
 
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Fundaamental said:
ok friend 😊 could you see tha his love is part of his spirit, that his fruit love protects your mind, but theese are attribute of his spirit and not his whole spirit along with kindness.
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The qualities of the Spirit are oneness, light and love... and these are each present in the experience.

These are not the qualities of the Father who is beyond the division experience requires.
 
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After, the mind has to gradually integrate and apply what has happened.

You start dropping its importance as such, favoring the heart.
 
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After, the mind has to gradually integrate and apply what has happened.

You start dropping its importance as such, favoring the heart.
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I've never met one single person who shows humbleness every time he is accused untill they have reached old age and even the they forgot there gifts and lead by there heart .
But I have met old men who have lived the test of time of patience
As that's the way you learn to not become patience.
 
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Fundaamental said:
I've never met one single person who shows humbleness every time he is accused untill they have reached old age and even the they forgot there gifts and lead by there heart .
But I have met old men who have lived the test of time of patience
As that's the way you learn to not become patience.
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Hesychasm is a Christian practice that aids in this.

We need to stop making all these things something for someone else.

You are called to be as Christ, not less... yet everything you say justifies avoiding the calling.
 
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FrankSophia said:
We see in 1 John 5:7 a statement about the persons.

We also see in John 17:26, Ephesians 4:6, and 1 Corinthians 6:19 that each person is within us.

Galatians 4:6 is also important here.

Are any living as that union?
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such a wonderful mystery
 
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