Calvin did not invent the doctrines of grace

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

rogerg

Well-known member
Jul 13, 2021
3,673
571
113
The spiritual truth of the gospel is known through the mystical dimension...

Prophecy is about worldly events.
"mystical dimension" ? Uh huh, oh sure, right, mystical dimension - must have missed it - I hate it when that happens.
 
Apr 25, 2023
439
10
18
"mystical dimension" ? Uh huh, oh sure, right, mystical dimension - must have missed it - I hate it when that happens.
It is the same as statements like seeing by the Spirit...

It is the union with God described in John 17:20-26...

It is the truth itself, direct.

Everything else is a poor substitute.
 

rogerg

Well-known member
Jul 13, 2021
3,673
571
113
It is the same as statements like seeing by the Spirit...

It is the union with God described in John 17:20-26...

It is the truth itself, direct.

Everything else is a poor substitute.
I searched the Bible for "mystical" but didn't find any hits there. Where do you find it mentioned?
 
Apr 25, 2023
439
10
18
I searched the Bible for "mystical" but didn't find any hits there. Where do you find it mentioned?
I already gave you 1 Corinthians 4:1

This is the first verse of the section titled true apostleship.
 

Snacks

Well-known member
Feb 10, 2022
1,410
771
113
Most here are genuinely sharing with the goal of helping others...whether dogmatically or not. The problem with building short piers is that we end up missing out ourselves.
I hear fishing from bridges can be really good.
Fishing from bridges is excellent, especially when when fishing for men/women. Heretics don’t fish but rather drain the waters of grace.
 

Cameron143

Well-known member
Mar 1, 2022
19,211
6,608
113
62
Fishing from bridges is excellent, especially when when fishing for men/women. Heretics don’t fish but rather drain the waters of grace.
You realize that even if one is an ardent Calvinist, they still are to fulfill the great commission. They still have the responsibility to take the gospel to the world.
You may believe that few are being faithful, but the 2 ideas are not antithetical. I know a fair number of reformed believers who are very evangelical.
 

Magenta

Senior Member
Jul 3, 2015
60,160
29,463
113
They are not meaningless; they are the gospel - all of it is prophecy.
You don't understand what prophecy is - it is not only the foretelling of future events,
but also making known the spiritual truth of the gospel.
Wait, what? You mean prophecy is not about Frank, but about Jesus??? .:eek:
 
Apr 25, 2023
439
10
18
Wait, what? You mean prophecy is not about Frank, but about Jesus??? .:eek:
More correctly they are about Christ.

Jesus was a man in history who had the Spirit upon him.

Frank means freeman.

Jesus had the unfortunate assignment of being perfect.

I am the limit of the resulting freedom through the Spirit.
 
Apr 25, 2023
439
10
18
He is still the eternal priest.

I am not the new example, just the correction.

A reorienting back to the new testament itself and the Spirit that it provides.
 

Magenta

Senior Member
Jul 3, 2015
60,160
29,463
113
Yes, it is hard to imagine but it is about Jesus, not Frank.
Wow. Frank must be very misguided then! .:censored::cry:

Let us pray for Frank that his eyes be opened to the Truth of God's
revealed written Word and the fact that Jesus Christ is the Truth.
 
Apr 25, 2023
439
10
18
Wow. Frank must be very misguided then! .:censored::cry:

Let us pray for Frank that his eyes be opened to the Truth of God's
revealed written Word and the fact that Jesus Christ is the Truth.
You have issues with that written word.

When I bring up topics it discusses you get mad at me.

You think I'm sharing my opinions.
 
Apr 25, 2023
439
10
18
Do you actually believe that you're Jesus?
I am not the son of Mary, visions have suggested I'm his reincarnation but I don't take that as meaningful.

I am another Christ though, intending to enact what was supposed to arise through him.
 
Apr 25, 2023
439
10
18
There are verses that say not to enact what I'm bringing about until my appearance...

In this way what I say seems to clash.