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rephrase please brother.
Zone, dear friend in Christ; It's interesting, the range of responses from those of us who have something to say. "As you speak, don't you also learn" seems to have played a significant roll in this thread.

In creation language, biblical discernment comes by comparisons between the left hand and the right hand; much like discernment of the direction a person walks in life is revealed in the separation of the cloven hooves; much like two eyes establish depth in perception. In comparing one end with the other, if you were to challenge your weakest point, who would win the debate? The question is relative to discernment.

Awesome trees you have in your back yard. Last year I cut down a maple tree my great grandpa planted in his early years. Before I cut it down, I spent a day coffee chattering with family that owns that property now. In our own life time, we recalled the many things that took place on that land; from fires to flower beds, droughts, famine, storms, logging, truck patches, horses, pigs, chickens and an out house. No matter what the family had on it's mind, we sat under the shade of that tree, and life at that moment seemed to be acceptable.
 

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Zone, dear friend in Christ; It's interesting, the range of responses from those of us who have something to say. "As you speak, don't you also learn" seems to have played a significant roll in this thread.

In creation language, biblical discernment comes by comparisons between the left hand and the right hand; much like discernment of the direction a person walks in life is revealed in the separation of the cloven hooves; much like two eyes establish depth in perception. In comparing one end with the other, if you were to challenge your weakest point, who would win the debate? The question is relative to discernment.

Awesome trees you have in your back yard. Last year I cut down a maple tree my great grandpa planted in his early years. Before I cut it down, I spent a day coffee chattering with family that owns that property now. In our own life time, we recalled the many things that took place on that land; from fires to flower beds, droughts, famine, storms, logging, truck patches, horses, pigs, chickens and an out house. No matter what the family had on it's mind, we sat under the shade of that tree, and life at that moment seemed to be acceptable.
yaright.
my wise brother, i am tired now and am going to lie down.
but i want to look at this again tomorrow.
post more if you can.
i love your emails.
i love you.
zoney.

i know what you are saying to me: i'm working on it.
 

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Do you find that as you get older, you no longer get angry at things as much as you find yourself getting used to the fact that there's not much you can do about them?
just signing off and saw i missed this one.
so sorry.

absolutely. before i was called by Jesus i was always ticked at something. all lost men are.

afterwards, for a long time i was only on cloud nine, jumping for joy. aren't all new believers?

then as i grew, i settled down. studied a lot. understood all too well the conflict with sin.

but as i studied and looked for a good church, then my anger was a new kind. anger at the lies we are subjected to (zionism, the fake system we live in, etc.).

Revelation 2:21
I know your deeds, your hard work and your perseverance. I know that you cannot tolerate wicked men, that you have tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them false.

and the false teachings....they really tick me off. and there is something i can do about them.

Ephesians 5:11
Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them.

but day to day stuff? rarely if ever get angry about that. i'm looking for a city not made with hands....only passing through.

i'm working' on it, though.
learning from some good friends who email me every day:D

nite. thanks.
good question.
 
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Reformed is a broad term to describe one who holds to the the 5 Solas of the Reformation.

Sola Scriptura - Scripture Alone
Solus Christus - Christ Alone
Sola Gratia - Grace Alone
Sola Fide - Faith Alone
Soli Deo Gloria - The Glory of God Alone

Unwarranted confidence in human ability is a product of fallen human nature ... God's grace in Christ is not merely necessary but is the sole efficient cause of salvation. We confess that human beings are born spiritually dead and are incapable even of cooperating with regenerating grace. We reaffirm that in salvation we are rescued from God's wrath by his grace alone. It is the supernatural work of the Holy Spirit that brings us to Christ by releasing us from our bondage to sin and raising us from spiritual death to spiritual life. We deny that salvation is in any sense a human work. Human methods, techniques or strategies by themselves cannot accomplish this transformation. Faith is not produced by our unregenerated human nature. - Cambridge Declaration

but many use the term.
i get more specific as i go.

but no one has asked about those things yet:D

enjoy your holiday sis.
love you.
Sola Zonafide - It's about ME and what I believe
 
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the Bible is silent about many things.

we can fairly assume that if the lipgloss is not bright red or purple (colors harlots wore and wear) it's supercool.

i like peach (flavored kind):D << santo...notice i dropped the "u" in flavour for u.

KEEP 'EM COMIN' GUYS. THIS IS GOOD.
it's all about me.
What does the bible say about lipgloss?
Song of Sol 4:3a Thy lips are like a thread of scarlet, and thy speech is comely:

It looks like 'crimson red' is what your looking for and you can can the 'peach' and save it for later. I speak as a man.
 
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sure.
anytime.
not a billy graham fan.

i love consumed too.
Haven't you gotten over that 'handshake' yet? I think you were seeing things because your perception was a little off and for some reason you couldn't see the grace of God using a sinner like Billy Graham to reach the lost for almost a half a century. LOL
 
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people's souls go to be with The Lord immediately, fully aware....see Rev 20.
we receive our glorified bodies all together. that is our inheritence, the consummation of all things.
at the Last Trump.

don't know.
perfection? many like-minded?
don't care.
The Bible says in psalms 146:4 that when we die our thoughts perish, also Eccl 9:5 says that the dead do not know anything. How does that fit in to what you have said?
 
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Were you a 'Glen Beck' fan, who programmed on 'Fox News'? It seems that he did some homework and was not very popular with the 'elite'.
 
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What do you believe the following passage in Song of Solomon is referring to and how does it apply to the bride of Christ?

SOS 1:7,8 Tell me, O thou whom my soul loveth, where thou feedest, where thou makest [thy flock] to rest at noon: for why should I be as one that turneth aside by the flocks of thy companions? 8 If thou know not, O thou fairest among women, go thy way forth by the footsteps of the flock, and feed thy kids beside the shepherds' tents. KJV

SOS 1:7,8 Tell me, you whom my soul loves, where you pasture your flock, where you make it lie down at noon; for why should I be like one who veils herself beside the flocks of your companions? 8 [He] If you do not know, O most beautiful among women, follow in the tracks of the flock, and pasture your young goats beside the shepherds' tents. ESV
 
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there are no more prophets.
Today's prophets in the church are those that speak forth the word of God as the oracles of God. This is not a delegated office as it was in Israel or at the inception of the foundation of the church. It is a calling from God to edify and build up the church in grace and truth through the word and doctrine. A pastor-teacher has that calling within his office to the church and if their is any discernment or warnings that are to be given, it will reside within and for that local assembly of believers first and then apply to the church by in large, because we have one Lord, with one Spirit and we are one body and living organism that has been redeemed by the blood of Christ.

Do yo believe that this is true and do the scriptures testify to this?
 
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1. I see you are Canadian. I come bearing gifts.


2. I see a lot of the same arguments raging on from thread to thread. When it comes to this forum and the 'internet ministry of modern prophets,' do you think we have an obligation to rebuke and correct them? Do you believe there is any point where the prophet in question becomes a lost cause no longer worth the trouble?

3. In your opinion, which is more important- correcting a false teacher or giving outsiders the impression that all Christians get along all the time no matter what?

4. Is Jesus the Creator?

That's all I can think of at the moment. Enjoy your mayonnaise and beer. Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions.
 

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Song of Sol 4:3a Thy lips are like a thread of scarlet, and thy speech is comely:

It looks like 'crimson red' is what your looking for and you can can the 'peach' and save it for later. I speak as a man.
LOL! Redster.
ok (i don't wear it anymore anyways; my husband liked it when he was alive; peach tastes good on chapped lips).

so, seen any ladies like this in church lately?:

Song of Solomon 6,7
Others
1 Where has your beloved gone,
O most beautiful among women?
Where has your beloved turned,
that we may seek him with you?
Together in the Garden of Love


She 2 My beloved has gone down to his garden
to the beds of spices,
to grazea in the gardens
and to gather lilies.
3 I am my beloved’s and my beloved is mine;
he grazes among the lilies.
Solomon and His Bride Delight in Each Other


He 4 You are beautiful as Tirzah, my love,
lovely as Jerusalem,
awesome as an army with banners.
5 Turn away your eyes from me,
for they overwhelm me—
Your hair is like a flock of goats
leaping down the slopes of Gilead.
6 Your teeth are like a flock of ewes
that have come up from the washing;
all of them bear twins;
not one among them has lost its young.
7 Your cheeks are like halves of a pomegranate
behind your veil.
8 There are sixty queens and eighty concubines,
and virgins without number.
9 My dove, my perfect one, is the only one,
the only one of her mother,
pure to her who bore her.
The young women saw her and called her blessed;
the queens and concubines also, and they praised her.
10 “Who is this who looks down like the dawn,
beautiful as the moon, bright as the sun,
awesome as an army with banners?”

She
11 I went down to the nut orchard
to look at the blossoms of the valley,
to see whether the vines had budded,
whether the pomegranates were in bloom.
12 Before I was aware, my desire set me
among the chariots of my kinsman, a prince.b

Others
13 c Return, return, O Shulammite,
return, return, that we may look upon you.

He
Why should you look upon the Shulammite,
as upon a dance before two armies?d

1 How beautiful are your feet in sandals,
O noble daughter!
Your rounded thighs are like jewels,
the work of a master hand.
2 Your navel is a rounded bowl
that never lacks mixed wine.
Your belly is a heap of wheat,
encircled with lilies.
3 Your two breasts are like two fawns,
twins of a gazelle.
4 Your neck is like an ivory tower.
Your eyes are pools in Heshbon,
by the gate of Bath-rabbim.
Your nose is like a tower of Lebanon,
which looks toward Damascus.
5 Your head crowns you like Carmel,
and your flowing locks are like purple;
a king is held captive in the tresses.
6 How beautiful and pleasant you are,
O loved one, with all your delights!a
7 Your stature is like a palm tree,
and your breasts are like its clusters.
8 I say I will climb the palm tree
and lay hold of its fruit.
Oh may your breasts be like clusters of the vine,
and the scent of your breath like apples,
9 and your mouthb like the best wine.

She
It goes down smoothly for my beloved,
gliding over lips and teeth.c
10 I am my beloved’s,
and his desire is for me.
The Bride Gives Her Love
11 Come, my beloved,
let us go out into the fields
and lodge in the villages;d
12 let us go out early to the vineyards
and see whether the vines have budded,
whether the grape blossoms have opened
and the pomegranates are in bloom.
There I will give you my love.
13 The mandrakes give forth fragrance,
and beside our doors are all choice fruits,
new as well as old,
which I have laid up for you, O my beloved.
 

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Haven't you gotten over that 'handshake' yet? I think you were seeing things because your perception was a little off and for some reason you couldn't see the grace of God using a sinner like Billy Graham to reach the lost for almost a half a century. LOL
no, not over the handshake. a christian can not be a freemason...can they?

i said i have no doubt the Lord saved many....when the true gospel is preached, it does not return void.
i said the sinner's prayer isn't safe ground.

i said graham sent those who had "made decisions for Jesus" back to their previous religions.

http://www.baptistpillar.com/bd0227.htm

it may not matter to you, it does to some. i'm one.
i wondered why he did that. and what the net result was.
 

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The Bible says in psalms 146:4 that when we die our thoughts perish, also Eccl 9:5 says that the dead do not know anything. How does that fit in to what you have said?
who stood on the Mount of Transfiguration with Jesus?
were they real?
 

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Were you a 'Glen Beck' fan, who programmed on 'Fox News'? It seems that he did some homework and was not very popular with the 'elite'.
uh.......huh?
oh i get it!

haha. that's funny Redster.
nah. beck's one of them.

question Red: who did 9-11?
 

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What do you believe the following passage in Song of Solomon is referring to and how does it apply to the bride of Christ?

SOS 1:7,8 Tell me, O thou whom my soul loveth, where thou feedest, where thou makest [thy flock] to rest at noon: for why should I be as one that turneth aside by the flocks of thy companions? 8 If thou know not, O thou fairest among women, go thy way forth by the footsteps of the flock, and feed thy kids beside the shepherds' tents. KJV

SOS 1:7,8 Tell me, you whom my soul loves, where you pasture your flock, where you make it lie down at noon; for why should I be like one who veils herself beside the flocks of your companions? 8 [He] If you do not know, O most beautiful among women, follow in the tracks of the flock, and pasture your young goats beside the shepherds' tents. ESV
speaking of the Son of David:

Psalm 23
The Lord Is My Shepherd
A Psalm of David.
1 The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.
2 He makes me lie down in green pastures.
He leads me beside still waters.a
3 He restores my soul.
He leads me in paths of righteousnessb
for his name’s sake.
4 Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,c
I will fear no evil,
for you are with me;
your rod and your staff,
they comfort me.
5 You prepare a table before me
in the presence of my enemies;
you anoint my head with oil;
my cup overflows.
6 Surelyd goodness and mercye shall follow me
all the days of my life,
and I shall dwellf in the house of the Lord
forever.g

also:

Jeremiah 50:6
“My people have been lost sheep. Their shepherds have led them astray, turning them away on the mountains. From mountain to hill they have gone. They have forgotten their fold.

and

Ezekiel 34:15
I myself will be the shepherd of my sheep, and I myself will make them lie down, declares the Lord GOD.

Jesus came....just as Promised.
some received Him, some did not.

John 1
The Word Became Flesh
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4In him was life,a and the life was the light of men. 5The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

6There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7He came as a witness, to bear witness about the light, that all might believe through him. 8He was not the light, but came to bear witness about the light.

9The true light, which enlightens everyone, was coming into the world. 10He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world did not know him. 11He came to his own,b and his own peoplec did not receive him. 12But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, 13who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

14And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. 15(John bore witness about him, and cried out, “This was he of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me ranks before me, because he was before me.’”) 16And from his fullness we have all received, grace upon grace. 17For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18No one has ever seen God; the only God,d who is at the Father’s side,e he has made him known
 

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Today's prophets in the church are those that speak forth the word of God as the oracles of God. This is not a delegated office as it was in Israel or at the inception of the foundation of the church. It is a calling from God to edify and build up the church in grace and truth through the word and doctrine. A pastor-teacher has that calling within his office to the church and if their is any discernment or warnings that are to be given, it will reside within and for that local assembly of believers first and then apply to the church by in large, because we have one Lord, with one Spirit and we are one body and living organism that has been redeemed by the blood of Christ.

Do yo believe that this is true and do the scriptures testify to this?
the scriptures testify to the office of pastor-teacher.
there is no longer office of prophet.
 

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1. I see you are Canadian. I come bearing gifts.
thanks! i got a lovely chicken and some leaf lettuce. maybe i'll make a sammy for lunch.
i'll keep the beer chilled if i get a guest who drinks. thanks.

2. I see a lot of the same arguments raging on from thread to thread. When it comes to this forum and the 'internet ministry of modern prophets,' do you think we have an obligation to rebuke and correct them? Do you believe there is any point where the prophet in question becomes a lost cause no longer worth the trouble?.
given the fact that many many evangelicals believe there are prophets and apostles today (there aren't), it's not the lost prophet i'm so concerned about: it's those who are listening to them. they might get a clue eventually (?)

3. In your opinion, which is more important- correcting a false teacher or giving outsiders the impression that all Christians get along all the time no matter what?.
um...i don't think "outsiders" understand anything. the bible says they can't discern spiritual things. they're spiritually dead.

concerning those who claim the Name of Christ, i think it'simporant to make a distinction between those who are clearly heretical in their core doctrines. don't you?

what does "all Christians get along all the time no matter what" mean?
are Mormons Christians?

4. Is Jesus the Creator?.
yes, He is.
we have a Triune God.

That's all I can think of at the moment. Enjoy your mayonnaise and beer. Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions.
yup. later.