Angels can procreate

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HeIsHere

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#81
What is the purpose of moderators? We grown up Christians can push trash aside but a new little lamb may get the idea that this is ok way to think/talk because of the title of the site... Does it constitute using His name in vain ? Christian Chat

Agree!!
 

JohnDB

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This thread takes "Angel Porn" to a whole new level....good grief!

Talk about majoring in minors....this is it.
 

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About sex. it's not just like the Animals. Between a man and a woman you become one, (GOD said that) GOD never said that about the animals having sex. I've talked to couples who made a wise choice. I was told it is incredible. You each put in 100%and somehow you come out with 300% The feeling is just incredible. The church completely ignores that.
 

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This thread takes "Angel Porn" to a whole new level....good grief!

Talk about majoring in minors....this is it.
The church has placed sex to the level of animals. GOD said "The two shall become one" He did not say that about animals. There is something different about a husband and wife, if you make the right choice for a partner.
 

Mem

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They had their seed in themselves after their own kind when created by the Lord. In Genesis 3:15 both the woman and the one being spoken to have a "seed" https://biblehub.com/interlinear/genesis/3-15.htm zarah,zaraka from #2233 https://biblehub.com/hebrew/2233.htm

"The one being spoken to..." ,,the Serpent in the Garden in Genesis 3 though and those in Genesis 6 appear to not be the same (or in the same group). The one (the Serpent) is the Devil,the Serpent the Dragon https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/12-9.htm and https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/20-2.htm appears to be present from Genesis to Revelation while those who left their first estate and went after strange flesh are bound in chains until the judgment https://biblehub.com/interlinear/jude/1-6.htm The one group(Gen.6) is bound in chains until judgment and the other group(Serpent and 3rd part of the angels) is not. If the Serpent(spoken to in Gen.3:15) was in the same group as those in Gen. 6 he also would be in chains until Judgment.
When Jesus spoke to the Pharisees and claimed their father to be the devil, was He implying that they were actually Nephilim?
 

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About sex. it's not just like the Animals. Between a man and a woman you become one, (GOD said that) GOD never said that about the animals having sex. I've talked to couples who made a wise choice. I was told it is incredible. You each put in 100%and somehow you come out with 300% The feeling is just incredible. The church completely ignores that.
My curiosity is getting the better of me...
How would you know what sex between a man and woman should be, if you've never been married?
You speak as an authority on the subject, yet you say you've never found a woman that is "right" for you to marry...
I'm beginning to wonder if you are here mainly for the titillation of "talking sex"....
I have nothing against discussing sex in a Biblical context... but you seem to see everything only as it relates to having sex.....
It's beginning to wear thin....
 
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It's surprising that there are those who think Jesus is a flesh and blood man in Heaven. So it isn't surprising that they would also think angels are people too.
 
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This thread takes "Angel Porn" to a whole new level....good grief!

Talk about majoring in minors....this is it.
It slanders the sacredness in scripture.

Then again, that could be their intentions.
 

iamsoandso

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Just so I'm clear, do you believe angels procreated with mankind? And if so, are there scriptures that support their ability to do so?

I don't need verses broken down for me. The verses themselves will suffice.
lol, you keep using the words procreate,procreated which is the ability to bare offspring I have not. Another word you used is corrupt,corrupted as if it were those angels desire to corrupt,destroy,pollute the bloodline of Christ. I suppose all these type threads will always end with the same result by convenience where the main focus will be on those words sex,corrupt,procreate ect. instead of really looking at what those angels were trying to do. If you look at the post and Scriptures I have already given you may better find my motive which is that I do not think they were trying to create an race of offspring that is half human crossed with angel. Instead the enmity(hatred) that was spoken of is because they admired.loved ect(opposite of hate). They I think saw the seed of the woman as gain and wanted to enjoin themselves with it not corrupt it or procreate another race with their offspring.
 

JohnDB

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The church has placed sex to the level of animals. GOD said "The two shall become one" He did not say that about animals. There is something different about a husband and wife, if you make the right choice for a partner.
Sex is not marriage and marriage is not all about sex....that's a worldly view and why there's so much divorce.

Sex is just an aspect of marriage....a minor but needed aspect. It's about intimacy. That's all....
It's supposed to come after emotional and psychological intimacy. Something much more intimate than physical intimacy and affection. And if you actually understood that you might actually will get a spouse.
 

iamsoandso

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When Jesus spoke to the Pharisees and claimed their father to be the devil, was He implying that they were actually Nephilim?
you misunderstood my post the Serpent,Devil,Dragon was not in the group of angels in Genesis 6...
 

Mem

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you misunderstood my post the Serpent,Devil,Dragon was not in the group of angels in Genesis 6...
Right, though I am confident in making the assumption that he is of the same kind.
 

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My curiosity is getting the better of me...
How would you know what sex between a man and woman should be, if you've never been married?
You speak as an authority on the subject, yet you say you've never found a woman that is "right" for you to marry...
I'm beginning to wonder if you are here mainly for the titillation of "talking sex"....
I have nothing against discussing sex in a Biblical context... but you seem to see everything only as it relates to having sex.....
It's beginning to wear thin....
Couples I have talked to and an experience I had once.
 

JohnB

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It is quite sad how you portray Heaven as some hedonistic paradise, more akin to the Muslim tradition. You idolize sex.

Jesus died on the cross so we could have sex in Heaven, this is a seriously tragic, abhorrent view of what Jesus endured and the gift of eternal life.

Have you ever felt His love?
It's amazing how some Christians lower the sex act to the level of animals. Of a man and a women, GOD said "The two shall become one" He did not say that about animals having sex.
 

Edify

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Well, since John rarely talks about anything else but sex on earth & in Heaven, I'm beginning to wonder if he is Mormon.:unsure:
 

Blain

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I have heard repeatedly in church that angels cannot procreate. That is not true, according to the bible.

"when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown." Genesis 6:4. It had nothing to do with them being fallen angels. They were able to have children.
wait seriously? Do people really teach that angels can't do that? I mean that kind amazes me with my memory issues I usuallt have to look up scripture no matter how many times I have it read it before but even I remember how the sins of God lusted after women and we all know what abomination came from that.
 

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If you're saying the Sons of GOD were

I keep hearing Christians say "There is no sex in heaven" I strongly disagree.
Mat 22:30 (KJV) For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

Mark 12:24-25 (KJV)
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?
25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
 
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God never anywhere addresses angels as sons.
Not when you use a Bible based off the Hellenized Greek. But if you use the factual Tanakh, you will find it in a multitude of places. Here's quick couple right off the back.

Genesis 6:
2 then the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were good and they took for themselves wives, any they chose.

Psalm 82
God has taken his place in the divine council;
in the midst of the gods he holds judgment:
6 I said, “You are gods,
sons of the Most High
, all of you;
7 nevertheless, like men you shall die,
 
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And for the Creator of this Thread: NO SEX INVOLVED : Very Much like how the Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary = In-Vitro

They just placed fertilized eggs into the wombs. The Hebrew gets specific about this process. [and they would bear for them]

4The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of the nobles would come to the daughters of man, and they would bear for them; they are the mighty men, who were of old, the men of renown.

and they would bear for them. They were just incubators carrying the fertilized egg to full birth. No physical Sex!
 

Godsgirl1983

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an experience I had once.
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John, have you ever been married?

(sorry, I know someone asked several questions and you answered, but I can't recall if this was one of them. I tried to look back here, but then realized it must have been in one of your other sex threads)