Do some confuse the "Day of the Lord" in 2 Peter 3:10 with Jesus's 2nd coming?

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That is usually what it refers to, but "The day of the Lord" is found several times in the Bible and might refer to several different and separate events, or even a broader time period...

Ezekiel 30:3
“For the day is near, even the day of the LORD is near, a cloudy day; it shall be the time of the heathen.”

Amos 5:18
“Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.”

Joel 1:15
“Alas for the day! for the day of the LORD is at hand, and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come.”

The above might all refer to the very end, but then...


1 Thessalonians 5:2 Context
1But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 2For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 4But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. 5Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

This seems to refer to an earlier time. The Second Coming perhaps?

...and then we have these types:
2 Corinthians 1:14
“As also ye have acknowledged us in part, that we are your rejoicing, even as ye also are ours in the day of the Lord Jesus.”
Thank you. It is confusing to me.
 

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Thank you. It is confusing to me.
It will be a terrible time for the heathen as prophet Amos said--Great and Terrible but also a Great and Glorius time as mentioned in Acts 2.

There is several things beginning at same time which I think are at Rev. 14: 14-20
 
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But if the world is destroyed with Jesus's coming, then what about the 1,000 year rule?
Destroyed?
It's just being Cleansed. This current Earth holds the SINS as evidence. Peter basically explains a fire and heat will basically regenerate it back to New Condition and Restored like days of Eden.

This process happening to the Earth is no different than our human body becoming a Heavenly Body all in the Blink of an Eye. So no major interruptions happening here. Armageddon, Earth cleansed, 1,000 year Reign.
 
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10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief.
On that day the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the elements will melt and disintegrate, and the earth and everything done on it shall be exposed.


10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, and then the heavens will pass away with a roar, and the heavenly bodies will be burned up and dissolved, and the earth and the works that are done on it will be exposed.
 

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Excuse me, I’m just sweeping up a little before I retire for the night. Does anyone know where the dustpan is?
So glad I reread your post. First, I read that you were "weeping", and I thought "my my what great tears Ronnie must have shed!" :cry:
 

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Arians do not beleive Jesus is God. The text has parallels that show that he is in fact God.

Zechariah 14:9
Easy-to-Read Version
9 And the Lord will be the King of the whole world. At that time all people will worship him as the only Lord with only one name.

1 Timothy 6:14-15
King James Version
14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:

15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;

Revelation 15:1-5
King James Version
15 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God.

2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.

4 Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.

5 And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened:

Revelation 17:14

These will wage war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, because He is Lord of lords and King of kings, and those who are with Him are the called and chosen and faithful.”

Revelation 19:16
King James Version
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.
 

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But if the world is destroyed with Jesus's coming, then what about the 1,000 year rule?
The Earth will not be destroyed prior to the Millenium, but it is after the Millenium that we read of a "new Heaven and new Earth and New Jerusalem come down out of Heaven."

Revelation 21:2
“And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.”

This is our introduction to the "Final State" (after the Millennium). There may well be great destruction on Earth when Satan is bound and cast into the pit for the last time (at the end of the Millenium).
 

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A Tid-bit from Irenaeus of Lyon who was taught by Papias, a hearer of Apostle John

The custom of not bending the knee upon Sunday is a symbol of the resurrection, through which we have been set free by the grace of Christ from sin and death, which has been put to death under Him. Now this custom took its rise from apostolc times as the blessed Irenaeus, the martyr and bishop of Lyons, declared in his treatise, in which he made mention of not bending the knee on Pentecost because it is of equal significance with the Day of the Lord.

Keep in mind that Peter on Pentecost tied this feast also with the Day of the Lord also. Acts 2:20

This is directed at those inside the Tribulation and not the church
 

GaryA

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The 'Day of the Lord' is synonymous with the Second Coming of Christ.

There is no confusion in thinking they are the same - because, they are...

2 Peter 3:

5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. 8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

The 'Day of the Lord' is two things:

~ a 1000-year period of time ('Day 7') that we call the Millennium

~ the first [24-hour] day of that 1000 years (the day Christ appears)

Context determines the appropriate definition in each verse/passage.

The verse in the orange color indicates to us that the things being described in [the context of] this passage occur over a 1000-year period of time and not [just] a one 24-hour day.

The Lord will do some "cleaning up" and "rearranging the landscape" when He first arrives (The 'Wrath of God' will change/destroy much.); however, the earth itself will remain "intact" until after the 1000 years are fulfilled.

In the context of all of the verses listed in the chart/table on the web page indicated below, the phrases associated with columns A-H are referring to the Second Coming of Christ.

http://mywebsite.us/BibleStudy/Second_Coming.html
 

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Is the rapture different from Jesus 2nd coming?
No - the rapture is the first thing that will occur after Jesus appears at His second coming.

So Rapture, Jesus 2nd coming, and start and ending of the 7th millennium all have specific days to occur.
I believe that Jesus will return at the end of the 7th millennium (note: not now here at end of 6th millennium) on the 1st day of the 7th month.
The rapture occurs at the Second Coming of Christ - at the beginning of the 7th millennium - [which is] the 1000-year reign of Christ on the earth.

When the rapture occurs, King David will be our King for a millennium on Earth.
When the rapture occurs, Jesus will be our King for a millennium on Earth.
 

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Anyone and everyone who enters the seal judgements are unrighteous but out of these will come those who become what I call Tribulation saints and God also has a plan for them also.
You are misinterpreting what the 'seals' are [all about] - as well as when what-they-represent actually occur.

There is no rapture/resurrection at the end of the Tribulation. Only determination here is who enters the 1000 year reign of Christ in the flesh and it will be few. Includes both jews and gentiles
Revelation 14:

14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. 15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe. 16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped. 17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle. 18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe. 19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. 20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.

Verse 14 is referring to Jesus.

Verses 15-16 are referring to the rapture.

Verses 17-20 are referring to the 'Wrath of God' being "poured out" upon the earth.

It may be well said that - "There is no rapture/resurrection at the end of the Tribulation." - because, the Second Coming of Christ does not actually occur at the end of the 'tribulation'; rather, it occurs after the time of the Two Witnesses - the beginning of which occurs at the end of the 'tribulation'.

~ Tribulation
~ Two Witnesses
~ Second Coming of Christ

Second Coming of Christ:

~ Christ [appears]
~ Rapture
~ Wrath of God
...

(ellipsis indicates the rest of the 1000-year reign of Christ)
 

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Destroyed?
It's just being Cleansed. This current Earth holds the SINS as evidence. Peter basically explains a fire and heat will basically regenerate it back to New Condition and Restored like days of Eden.

This process happening to the Earth is no different than our human body becoming a Heavenly Body all in the Blink of an Eye. So no major interruptions happening here. Armageddon, Earth cleansed, 1,000 year Reign.
I will agree that 'cleansed' is a [very] good word to use; however, I don't think the earth will be 'restored' to the degree/level of 'Eden' - "cleaned up" quite a bit - yes - but, not 'regenerated' as such.