Jesus and the sinners

[Pilgrimshope]

Often in the gospel you find the known sinners flocking to Jesus and the ultra religious and self righteous criticizing and judging Jesus based on the fact that he didn’t reject the sinners of thier society but instead Jesus associated with them ate and talked with them loved them and it just really bothered the self righteous religious folks that Jesus message was not what they had always thought


“And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples.

And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners?

But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick. But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice:

for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭9:10-13‬ ‭

“Then drew near unto him all the publicans and sinners for to hear him.

And the Pharisees and scribes murmured, saying, This man receiveth sinners, and eateth with them.”
Luke‬ ‭15:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

So what kinds of things did Jesus tell these sinners to call them to repentance ? He told then the hard truth

“I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭13:5‬ ‭

a he showed them a heavenly perspective of repentance

“Likewwise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth.”
Luke‬ ‭15:10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

He assured them that if they believed in him truly and heard the gospel they would be saved from condemnation and death

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

jesus truly was speaking to sinners that needed to hear the truth that sets free and the apostles were spreading the truth that sets free

“Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:31-32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

free from what ?

in meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

and that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭2:25-26‬ ‭KJV

The longsuffering and patience of the lord because he doesn’t want us to perish he wants us to believe the gospel and come to repentance which is his call to all sinners

he doesnt want this for us

I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭13:5‬ ‭

his Will is that we hear and believe the gospel and come to repentance

“The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:9‬ ‭

“Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;”

‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Gods patience and forebearance towards sinners is the means by which they can be saved he’s given us time to hear and respond to his call

“repent “ is a good word to the ears of a Christian be careful that someone doesn’t convince you otherwise

A good place in Paul’s writings is here showing the gospels call to repentance

“if so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus: that ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;

and be renewed in the spirit of your mind;

and that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭4:21-24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[Walter]

Often in the gospel you find the known sinners flocking to Jesus and the ultra religious and self righteous criticizing and judging Jesus based on the fact that he didn’t reject the sinners of thier society but instead Jesus associated with them ate and talked with them loved them and it just really bothered the self righteous religious folks that Jesus message was not what they had always thought


“And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples.

And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners?

But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick. But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice:

for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭9:10-13‬ ‭

“Then drew near unto him all the publicans and sinners for to hear him.

And the Pharisees and scribes murmured, saying, This man receiveth sinners, and eateth with them.”
Luke‬ ‭15:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

So what kinds of things did Jesus tell these sinners to call them to repentance ? He told then the hard truth

“I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭13:5‬ ‭

a he showed them a heavenly perspective of repentance

“Likewwise, I say unto you, there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth.”
Luke‬ ‭15:10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

He assured them that if they believed in him truly and heard the gospel they would be saved from condemnation and death

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

jesus truly was speaking to sinners that needed to hear the truth that sets free and the apostles were spreading the truth that sets free

“Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:31-32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

free from what ?

in meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

and that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭2:25-26‬ ‭KJV

The longsuffering and patience of the lord because he doesn’t want us to perish he wants us to believe the gospel and come to repentance which is his call to all sinners

he doesnt want this for us

I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭13:5‬ ‭

his Will is that we hear and believe the gospel and come to repentance

“The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:9‬ ‭

“Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;”

‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Gods patience and forebearance towards sinners is the means by which they can be saved he’s given us time to hear and respond to his call

“repent “ is a good word to the ears of a Christian be careful that someone doesn’t convince you otherwise

A good place in Paul’s writings is here showing the gospels call to repentance

“if so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus: that ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;

and be renewed in the spirit of your mind;

and that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭4:21-24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Hello Ezekiel, How are you? Good reading, great post, We were once blind but now we can see better because of Him.

Love, Walter and Debbie

 

[Nehemiah6]

The Bible says that all have sinned and come short of the glory of God, that there is none righteous, no not one, and that this is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation, that CHRIST JESUS CAME INTO THE WORLD TO SAVE SINNERS.

Since all have sinned, all need to be saved. But all will not be saved, since all will not obey the Gospel. But the message of salvation is to anyone and everyone.

And the Spirit and the Bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. (Rev 22:17)

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Hello Ezekiel, How are you? Good reading, great post, We were once blind but now we can see better because of Him.

Love, Walter and Debbie

I am doing well thank both of you , and I hope you are blessed and well also

amen he truly is the great physician

 

[Pilgrimshope]

The Bible says that all have sinned and come short of the glory of God, that there is none righteous, no not one, and that this is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation, that CHRIST JESUS CAME INTO THE WORLD TO SAVE SINNERS.

Since all have sinned, all need to be saved. But all will not be saved, since all will not obey the Gospel. But the message of salvation is to anyone and everyone.

And the Spirit and the Bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. (Rev 22:17)

“The Bible says that all have sinned and come short of the glory of God, that there is none righteous, no not one, and that this is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptation, that CHRIST JESUS CAME INTO THE WORLD TO SAVE SINNERS. “

um yeah I agree so he’s trying to save sinners from death first he tells then about the danger

“I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭13:5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

That’s the truth so how is Jesus going to save them ?


“But their scribes and Pharisees murmured against his disciples, saying, Why do ye eat and drink with publicans and sinners? And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick. I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭5:30-32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

So he’s saying unless you repent your going to perish , I came to call sinners to repentance

Why what’s repentance have to do with salvation ?

“The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

what happens if they don’t repent though ? They will perish in this day

“and to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;”
‭‭2 Thessalonians‬ ‭1:7-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

God doesnt want that and to avoid it man has to listen to thier Gods word and believe what he’s saying because it’s true


I already understand though a lot of Christian’s hate to hear the word repentance it’s actually a gift from God when we start hearing the truth

“in meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; and that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭2:25-26‬ ‭KJV‬‬

In other words

“Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:31-32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

And in other words applying to all

“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28:18-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

cjristians need to embrace the call of Jesus to repentance before it’s too late , and we really need to stop advocating a Christianity that has no power to change us and overcome sins dominion on our life making excuses for ourselves

“Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.

For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace?

( is it okay to sin now because we’re under grace ?)

God forbid. Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey;

whether of sin unto death, ( we can follow sin and die )

or of obedience unto righteousness? ( we can follow obedience to righteousness and life )

But God be thanked, that ye were ( used to be ) the servants of sin,

but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭6:12-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The gospel saves sinners because it is Jesus calling sinners who will hear him and believe him to repentance and everlasting life

some folks won’t accept the things Jesus said and taught though they want to create thoer own versions

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Hello Ezekiel, How are you? Good reading, great post, We were once blind but now we can see better because of Him.

Love, Walter and Debbie

It’s always eye opening to see what Gods been saying all along

“Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed;

and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭18:31-32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

even in the ot since israel transgressed he was calling for repentance Telling them if they don’t repent they would die and it wasn’t his Will it’s always so consistent

“The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

thats just what he was telling israel all along that if they didn’t repent they were going to be destroyed and left desolate until the end

he told them before they sinned what would happen , he told them after they continually sinned what would happen if the dodnt repent , he called and called again and again “ just repent and turn back to me and I will forgive you and restore you “

But they went on like as if it was all a lie and not true “Gods never going to keep his words and warnings against us “

its the same now he’s told us about the end of all things e end of our sinful paths we choose and create for ourselves and the end of the path he sets before us in Christ then he just said “ hear me and believe truly and you will be saved from all I’ve been earning you about

it’s truly when a person doesn’t believe what God is saying that they are blind and deaf and have put themselves in terrible danger eternally but if we would just do what Jesus said hear what he is saying in the gospel , we’re going to learn that we need to repent

 

[Nehemiah6]

So he’s saying unless you repent your going to perish , I came to call sinners to repentance

That is already included in obedience to the Gospel (which I mentioned in my post).

 

[Pilgrimshope]

That is already included in obedience to the Gospel (which I mentioned in my post).

yeah brother that’s why I agreed with you we have to get away from teaching a gospel that doesn’t include repentance , I wasn’t saying that you are saying that at all but was agreeing with what I think your point was …..

it’s throughout the New Testament epistles the call to repent ? It’s a basic and fundamental part of the gospel the subject of repentance i understand many don’t like to talk about it ( not saying you , saying many Christian’s in general )

don’t like to talk about changing our own ways that we understand aren’t acceptable to God on a personal level I’m saying personal convictions as we learn from the lord come to us and we need to follow those convictions that’s what repentance is

We are letting jesus teach us what righteousness actually is , so we can repent and start living upright lives the subject of repentance should be one that those who already have believed in jesus begin to study and take seriously , discuss share and teach because it’s an ongoing process

Its an actual New Testament detail and doctrine in many ways Paul’s language is different

“Therefore, brethren, ( Christian’s ) we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die:

but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭8:12-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

That’s about repentance and obedience the same the others are talking about Paul’s saying we Christian’s are obligated not to live this way after the flesh


“Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: ( sin ) of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭5:19-21‬ ‭

pauls talking about sinful living when he’s talking about living after the flesh is my point he’s saying the same things with his own words

There seems to be an idea that it just magically happens but it happens because we hear and accept the word teaching us about it

when we hear things like about how we can’t keep living sinful lives sometimes we reject it and our mind says “ that’s not true I’m saved by grace “

as we accept the truth though it does this which was always the issue our minds are wrong we’re deceived before we meet the lord

“And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭12:2‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“if so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus: that ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; and be renewed in the spirit of your mind; and that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭4:21-24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

hearing the lord teaching about eternal life in his kingdom and believing in him is what changes a person mind from thinking what we think already to what Jesus thinks


“For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.”( the gospel )
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭2:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬