Do you think transgenders go to heaven?

[heartwashed]

Jde 1:24, Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,

2Pe 1:10, Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:

1Jo 2:10, He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.

 

[heartwashed]

1Jo 3:7, Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

1Jo 3:3, And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

1Jo 2:6, He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

 

[heartwashed]

Do you think transgenders go to heaven? I hear mixed opinions on the topic. Are people with those feelings supposed to stay the way they are and remain celibate for their lives?

To deny your gender in order that you may have sex with people of the same gender (for an operation does not change who you are in essence as a person; you are the gender that God created you as), then in having sex with that person you are committing an act of homosexuality; which is expressly forbidden in scripture as being an abomination in the sight of the Lord.

 

[heartwashed]

And also, if you have an operation to change your gender, you are not only still the same gender (in your heart), but you have added to yourself a new gender.

If you go from male to female, therefore to have sex with a female would in a sense also be homosexuality.

Therefore, to have a transgender operation is to curse yourself to celibacy if you want to be right with the Lord in your heart.

 

[heartwashed]

Therefore, if your reasons for wanting a transgender operation are purely sexual, it becomes a choice between fulfilling your sexual desires and being a Christian.

 

[Snacker]

Huh?

Jeanette’s discernment is accurate.

 

[Snacker]

I am not a Calvinist.
Believers mess up all the time.

You a calvinist? 😆

 

[heartwashed]

Jeanette’s discernment is accurate.

not!

 

[tourist]

Jeanette’s discernment is accurate.

She got banned though. Just joined too. Oh well...

 

[oyster67]

It is simply 1 John 1:9. The moment you deny that something is a sin, you are no longer agreeing with the Lord that it is a sin.

Agree.
1 John 1:
7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

 

[oyster67]

This has never been proven when it comes to the topic of this thread.

The burden of proof is upon the accuser.

 

[heartwashed]

The burden of proof is upon the accuser.

The Bible would say that homosexuality, and thus transgenderism, is a sin.

If you accept the Bible therefore as authoritative, there is your proof.

 

[Snacker]

not!

You’re misunderstanding the premise of my previous post.

 

[tourist]

I am not a Calvinist.
Believers mess up all the time.

Yeah, I've messed up a few times myself.

 

[oyster67]

The Bible would say that homosexuality, and thus transgenderism, is a sin.

And @Jeanette has acknowledged this and repented.

 

[heartwashed]

And @Jeanette has acknowledged this and repented.

One thing: I don't consider transgenderism a sin, because thats how I was born.

How could she have repented of it if she doesn't consider it a sin?

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Just an fyi, those scientific studies have little to no validity or credibility and certanly cannot be likened to a blood test.

The leading Scientist for John Hopkins University made a big stink 15 some years ago when he claimed transgender's are actually mentally ill.

This is why I began my interaction with that Poster by bringing up the fact that homosexuals don't accept transgenders and vice versa.

Homosexuals and transgenders are the same issues they just define it differently.

 

[heartwashed]

You’re misunderstanding the premise of my previous post.

okay...what were you referring to exactly?

 

[oyster67]

She got banned though. Just joined too. Oh well...

Oh well nothing!
This is an outrage.
God forgive us. We have done it yet again. Flushed an honest and repentant seeker down the toilet.
Please forgive us @Jeanette.
Please forgive us Father.

 

[heartwashed]

Oh well nothing!
This is an outrage.
God forgive us. We have done it yet again. Flushed an honest and repentant seeker down the toilet.
Please forgive us @Jeanette.
Please forgive us Father.

I have to agree with you there.

People who don't know the Lord ought to be welcome on Christian sites, in order that we might win them to having favour with God.