Mark 10:9 what GOD has joined together.....even for bad marriages?
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Paul confirms Jesus' teachings in many ways on the subject of sex and marriage. In fact Paul goes so far as to say if they are committing adultery and fornication and these things, don't even eat with them, do not company with them at all, in effect they are excommunicated from the holy body of Christ. Paul even went so far as to turn some of these egregious offenders over to Satan.
“Deuteronomy is the word of Moses.”
Deuteronomy is the inspired word of God.
I’m too tired to continue. I hope you look back at our conversation and eventually come to an understanding of Christ’s words in Matthew, Mark and Luke.
In the meantime I recommend you refrain from speaking to the doctrine of divorce and remarriage.
Well then you can surely tell me how many times Jesus spoke the word apostasion/divorce according to our inspired scripture.
I’ll save you and our viewers the suspense, never.
As I said, dig deeper, and until you do refrain from speaking on the topic.
Well I could just copy paste what Jesus said so that there is no room at all to make misinterpretation. So now the question is do I believe Jesus or do I believe a fallen society that does those things contrary to what Jesus said and are themselves the enemies of Jesus? The answer is I believe Jesus because he is the Word of God and the Word of God is infallible.
Mark 10:1-12
1 And he arose from thence, and cometh into the coasts of Judaea by the farther side of Jordan: and the people resort unto him again; and, as he was wont, he taught them again.
2 And the Pharisees came to him, and asked him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife? tempting him.
3 And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you?
4 And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away.
5 And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept.
6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;
8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.
9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
10 And in the house his disciples asked him again of the same matter.
11 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.
12 And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.
https://www.openbible.info/topics/divorce
At least 100, all of which are against divorce, remarriage, and adultery.
The correct answer is ZERO. As I said, you’re mistaken. Please look back on our conversation and dive into the study, Lord willing it’ll be a blessing.
Well that's obviously not true as Mark 10 already proves.
So the question to you is: do i believe Jesus or should I believe a fallen society that are the enemies of Jesus and does all these evil things and tries to justify it?
So the question still remains; do I believe what Jesus says here in Mark 10 or do I believe an evil society that does these things and tries to justify themselves against God?
In Matthew, Mark and Luke Jesus was addressing the practice of putting away a wife without a divorce certificate.
As I said earlier, research agunah: the chained wife. Sadly a practice that continues to this very day. Where Jewish men PUT AWAY their wives without a divorce certificate then mary another woman, leaving the original wife unable to marry. Jesus said the only reason to do this is fornication.
As I said earlier, research agunah: the chained wife. Sadly a practice that continues to this very day. Where Jewish men PUT AWAY their wives without a divorce certificate then mary another woman, leaving the original wife unable to marry. Jesus said the only reason to do this is fornication.
Just because the men commit adultery does not mean that the answer is to allow the woman to commit adultery. As it is said; two wrongs do not make a right. The ideal answer is to not commit adultery, but work out any issues and preserve the marriage.
Pharisees: Is it lawful to put away a wife without a divorce certificate for any cause?
Jesus: What did Moses (Deuteronomy) command?
Pharisees: To put away with a divorce certificate.
Jesus: If you put away without a divorce certificate and remarry for reasons other than fornication it is adultery. And, if you marry someone that is put away without a divorce certificate it is adultery.
Perhaps this paraphrase will help.
It’s really quite simple.
Jesus wasn’t making a new doctrine on divorce and remarriage, he wasn’t changing His words in Deuteronomy.
Jesus was addressing the practice of putting away without a divorce certificate, something that still occurs today in Jewish communities.
Jesus: What did Moses (Deuteronomy) command?
Pharisees: To put away with a divorce certificate.
Jesus: If you put away without a divorce certificate and remarry for reasons other than fornication it is adultery. And, if you marry someone that is put away without a divorce certificate it is adultery.
Perhaps this paraphrase will help.
It’s really quite simple.
Jesus wasn’t making a new doctrine on divorce and remarriage, he wasn’t changing His words in Deuteronomy.
Jesus was addressing the practice of putting away without a divorce certificate, something that still occurs today in Jewish communities.
why would you marry a person you can't stand? God does not arrange any bad marriages.
Pharisees: Is it lawful to put away a wife without a divorce certificate for any cause?
Jesus: What did Moses (Deuteronomy) command?
Pharisees: To put away with a divorce certificate.
Jesus: If you put away without a divorce certificate and remarry for reasons other than fornication it is adultery. And, if you marry someone that is put away without a divorce certificate it is adultery.
Perhaps this paraphrase will help.
It’s really quite simple.
Jesus wasn’t making a new doctrine on divorce and remarriage, he wasn’t changing His words in Deuteronomy.
Jesus was addressing the practice of putting away without a divorce certificate, something that still occurs today in Jewish communities.
Pharisees: Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife? (tempting him!)
Jesus: What did Moses command you?
Pharisees: Moses suffered us to divorce our wives for any reason (Deuteronomy reference)
Jesus: Moses put that in the Law because of the hardness of your hearts. But from the beginning God made them male and female, and so a man leaves his father and mother and cleaves to his wife and the two flesh become one. (Genesis reference). "What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder."
Later the disciples ask Jesus of the same matter
Jesus: Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her. If a woman divorces her husband and marries another she commits adultery.
Luke 16
[17] But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one dot of the Law to become void.
[18] “Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery.
If Jesus made this statement in verse 18 then He is voiding the law He gave to Moses laid out in Deuteronomy 24 which allows for divorce and remarriage, right after He states not one dot of the law given to Moses will be voided.
Not sure how the ESV crew missed that glaring contradiction. Just goes to show how the doctrines of men can blind even the most learned theologians.
Apoluo ≠ divorce
[17] But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one dot of the Law to become void.
[18] “Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery.
If Jesus made this statement in verse 18 then He is voiding the law He gave to Moses laid out in Deuteronomy 24 which allows for divorce and remarriage, right after He states not one dot of the law given to Moses will be voided.
Not sure how the ESV crew missed that glaring contradiction. Just goes to show how the doctrines of men can blind even the most learned theologians.
Apoluo ≠ divorce
Romans 7:2-3
2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.