430 years in Egypt ???????????

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

Omegatime

Well-known member
Apr 29, 2023
1,190
433
83
Pennsylvania
#1
Exodus 12:40 The time that the people of Israel dwelt in Egypt was four hundred and thirty years. 41 And at the end of four hundred and thirty years, on that very day, all the hosts of the Lord went out from the land of Egypt. RSV

In discussing the exodus date our first evaluation will be with rabbinic teachers. They are not consistent when it comes to the number of years in Egypt but the approximation is 215 years. Now this contradicts the Masorectic text in which we and all the english versions use, and they doubt their own text. It appears they are counting time from the Offering of the Pieces by Abraham which would make it 215 in Egypt and 215 years in Cannan.

In the Septuagint text which is at least a 1000 years older and the scrolls Jesus read from say 430 years in Egypt and Cannan. The Septuagint text is just as credible or moreso than the Masorectic. The early church only had the Septuagint to use in Hebrew, Aramaic, or Syrian till about 900 AD.

Note --please keep in mind a covenant between man and God can also be Man's will upon his death, just as Jesus' covenant became effective upon his death.

The Promise to Abraham
15 To give a human example, brethren: no one annuls even a man’s will, or adds to it, once it has been ratified. 16 Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “And to offsprings,” referring to many; but, referring to one, “And to your offspring,” which is Christ. 17 This is what I mean: the law, which came four hundred and thirty years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void. 18 For if the inheritance is by the law, it is no longer by promise; but God gave it to Abraham by a promise.

If you understand time in the Bible you would know Abraham was born in hear 1948 from creation and lived 175 years making Abraham's death in year 2123. Add 430 years and the Exodus date is year 2553 from creation with 115 years in Cannan and 315 years in Egypt. I have much more abot time but can't include everything in this thread'

Four generation total were in Egypt, two generations went in and the fourth generation came out less 40 years in the wilderness. jacob lived 147 years, stood before Pharaoh at 130, lived 17 years in Egypt. When Jacob stood before Pharaoh the year was 2238. Taking the Exodus date of 2553 says 315 years passed between Jacob stood before Pharaoh and the Exodus. The day was Passover in all cases from Abraham death , Jacob's standing and the Passover exit from Egypt.
 

Omegatime

Well-known member
Apr 29, 2023
1,190
433
83
Pennsylvania
#2
The bottom line was the sons of Jacob were not living long enough to be in Egypt for 430 years.

To look at historical time we use the following:

1 Kngs 6:1 In the four hundred and eightieth year after the people of Israel came out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon’s reign over Israel, in the month of Ziv, which is the second month, he began to build the house of the Lord.

One thing everyone seems to agree upon was King David was reigning 1000BC. To take my Exodus date of 2553 and add 480 years is year 3033 from creation or 967 BC which is reasonable.
 

Nehemiah6

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2017
26,074
13,778
113
#3
The Septuagint text is just as credible or moreso than the Masorectic.
That's where you are wrong. The Septuagint is a GREEK CORRUPTION of the Hebrew Masoretic Text. So kindly do some serious research and don't get deceived by those who think the LXX is actually better.
 

Omegatime

Well-known member
Apr 29, 2023
1,190
433
83
Pennsylvania
#4
That's where you are wrong. The Septuagint is a GREEK CORRUPTION of the Hebrew Masoretic Text. So kindly do some serious research and don't get deceived by those who think the LXX is actually better.
The fact that the Old Testament was translated from Hebrew into Greek does not mean that it was corrupted or changed.
 

Pilgrimshope

Well-known member
Sep 2, 2020
14,628
5,897
113
#5
The fact that the Old Testament was translated from Hebrew into Greek does not mean that it was corrupted or changed.
If God hadn’t caused it to be translated it could never have been preached to all people Gods Will is why we have it in so many languages now everyone can hear the message and be saved and they don’t even have to spend half tbiernlives trying to learn how to understand ancient Hebrew and Aramaic concepts God caused his word to be accessible to all of we would dust it off sometimes where it sits up in that shelf we would learn what God said in our own language so we understand it

I thank God for translations of the Old Testament and new
 
Jun 20, 2022
6,460
1,330
113
#6
The fact that the Old Testament was translated from Hebrew into Greek does not mean that it was corrupted or changed.
Is the Septuagint the same as the Tanakh?
The Septuagint does not consist of a single, unified corpus. Rather, it is a collection of ancient translations of the Tanakh, along with
other Jewish texts
that are now commonly referred to as apocrypha.

What does apocrypha mean?
apocrypha, (from Greek apokryptein, “to hide away”), in biblical literature, works outside an accepted canon of scripture. The history of the term's usage indicates that it referred to a body of esoteric writings that were at first prized, later tolerated, and finally excluded.

What is Esoteric Writings?

a personal interpretation!


Use the Bible that God Commanded Moses to place into the Ark of the Covenant and then into the Holy of Hollies of the Temple.
God's choice, is the Torah/Tanakh
.
Man's choice, is accepting that which is not factually Biblical!