Flat earth debunked.

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Sure thing. Airplane pilots don't work for NASA. Nor do all those folks who have circumnavigated the globe by sea.
Airplane pilots or folks who have circumnavigated the globe by sea would be unable to observe any curvature. Some have not succombed to Heliocentric indoctrination. It is often admitted by Heliocentrists that the curvature of the Earth cannot be seen from a plane. Certainly, those who travel by sea have some of the best evidence against Heliocentricity, as lighthouses can be seen beyond where the horizon should be on a ball-Earth (i.e. over the alleged curve of the horizon). Next time you are on a plane, check out of both windows. On a clear day, you will be able to see the horizon through both at the same time - the horizon rises to the eye level. This is because Earth is flat - on a ball Earth, the horizon would/should drop away the further from the plane the land was. However, according to some die-hard Heliocentrists, this is simply because a plane is not at a high enough altitude to observe curvature.

The Airline industry provides proof thousands of times every day, as does the shipping industry. Why you'd pick "NASA" to "prove" your fantasy is beyond me.
As stated above, the Earth's curvature cannot be seen from a plane, and certainly not a ship. Some die-hard Heliocentrists argue this is simply because a plane is not at a high enough altitude to observe curvature. NASA is required by Heliocentrists, because it is the only organisation to have claimed to photograph ball-Earth. However, their evidence is fraudulent.

a gyroscope in a plane tells the pilot if the plane is level, but as the plane goes around the curve of the earth, does the gyroscope turn with the curve? if so, what good is the gyroscope because its function is to keep the plane level.
In Heliocentricity, the gyroscope should have flipped by the time a plane crosses from the Northern Hemisphere to the Southern Hemisphere. That it doesn't is proof that the Earth is flat.

That is because people have observed the curvature of the earth, countless times. You have the gall to call them all liars. That I do not understand.
No they haven't. Just because someone thinks he has seen something doesn't mean he has. The evolutionary archeologist may think he has seen evolution in fossils. He hasn't. Heliocentrists think they see the ships travelling over the curve of the horizon. That a telescope will bring the ship back into view proves their belief wrong.
 
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All flat earth arguments are based on negative evidence not positive evidence. They go something like this.

I don’t understand how water can stick to bottom of a ball, therefore gravity is a myth and the earth must be flat.

I don’t understand how we can be spinning over 1,000 mph at the equator without everyone flying off, therefore we must be flat and motionless.

I don’t understand how we can be hurling through space at thousands of mph and the air doesn’t fly off, therefore we must be flat and motionless.

It’s never positive evidence that someone personally sailed around Antarctica and it was actually an 80,000 mile ice wall. It’s never someone flying up and touching the dome or photographing a small, local sun.

All flat earth arguments are based on negative evidence, lack of understanding/knowledge, therefore all flat earth arguments are based on ignorance.

Therefore flat earth is ignorant.
 

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All flat earth arguments are based on negative evidence not positive evidence. They go something like this.

I don’t understand how water can stick to bottom of a ball, therefore gravity is a myth and the earth must be flat.

I don’t understand how we can be spinning over 1,000 mph at the equator without everyone flying off, therefore we must be flat and motionless.

I don’t understand how we can be hurling through space at thousands of mph and the air doesn’t fly off, therefore we must be flat and motionless.

It’s never positive evidence that someone personally sailed around Antarctica and it was actually an 80,000 mile ice wall. It’s never someone flying up and touching the dome or photographing a small, local sun.

All flat earth arguments are based on negative evidence, lack of understanding/knowledge, therefore all flat earth arguments are based on ignorance.

Therefore flat earth is ignorant.
:love: ALL FLAT EARTH ARGUMENTS ARE FLAT. :love:

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Zandar

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Auguste Piccard

Piccard became interested in balloon ascents as a means of making experiments. He participated in many important research studies, and when the University ...


In a Popular Science interview, Piccard was reported to have said that Earth “seemed a flat disc with an upturned edge.”
 
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Auguste Piccard
Piccard became interested in balloon ascents as a means of making experiments. He participated in many important research studies, and when the University ...


In a Popular Science interview, Piccard was reported to have said that Earth “seemed a flat disc with an upturned edge.”
Well Piccard said so. Who can argue with that?

Seriously?
 

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Sorry if your blurry image didn't convince me of a convex earth.

To say, I won't think about it is complete ignorance.

I actually believed the Heliocentric model, until I actually tried to find the truth.

I'm pretty sure, none of you have actually been to space, and seen with your own eyes, the earth flying through the heavens. So, let's just say, none of us have an eye witness account of the earth from outer space, to testify of the earth's true from, from a macro perspective.

If you try to observe for yourself, how things are, rather than what you were taught how things are, you may find the truth. The only thing is, the majority will think your nuts, or possibly say, "He doesn't think."

Trust me my dinosaur friend, I thought about this, way more than most.

My concave earth thread pretty much covers the topic from a Biblical perspective, scientific perspective, observation perspective, and a reasonable perspective. I also posted why both the flat earth and convex earth don't work.

You can continue to believe what you were taught in government schools though. The same schools that teach evolution. Just a reminder evolution and the heliocentric model go hand and hand. Try watching a science program about space, you will hear hints of evolution...More than likely. I reject both evolution and the heliocentric model.
 

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the reason i began to question the solar system is the same reason you mentioned. evolution, atheism, solar system. it all goes hand in hand.
 
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Sorry if your blurry image didn't convince me of a convex earth.

To say, I won't think about it is complete ignorance.

I actually believed the Heliocentric model, until I actually tried to find the truth.

I'm pretty sure, none of you have actually been to space, and seen with your own eyes, the earth flying through the heavens. So, let's just say, none of us have an eye witness account of the earth from outer space, to testify of the earth's true from, from a macro perspective.

If you try to observe for yourself, how things are, rather than what you were taught how things are, you may find the truth. The only thing is, the majority will think your nuts, or possibly say, "He doesn't think."

Trust me my dinosaur friend, I thought about this, way more than most.

My concave earth thread pretty much covers the topic from a Biblical perspective, scientific perspective, observation perspective, and a reasonable perspective. I also posted why both the flat earth and convex earth don't work.

You can continue to believe what you were taught in government schools though. Same schools that teach evolution.
Please explain this on a flat earth model.

If someone in the north, aims a camera at the northern night sky and starts a time lapse, the result will be all of the stars pivoting around a central point counter clockwise.

If someone in the south, aims a camera at the southern night sky starts a time lapse, the result will be all of the stars pivoting around a central point, but now clockwise.

The first example in the north makes sense on both flat and globe earth models. The second only makes sense on a globe earth.

The flat earth model is like painting stars on an upside down bowl, getting inside and watching it spin. At the top it’s pivoting around a central point. On the sides it’s just going sideways.

On a flat earth, the observed motion on the southern horizon should be strictly lateral, with no pivot point and moving around 3,000mph to complete a full rotation in 24 hours.

How can this be explained on a flat earth?
 

kinda

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look at any of their space station live feed q/a s. look at it objectively.

There is no point arguing about NASA, most believe it, and some don't. Probably the same percentage who watch Major News Network and those who don't Some believe what the see on t.v., others think it's propaganda.
 
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the reason i began to question the solar system is the same reason you mentioned. evolution, atheism, solar system. it all goes hand in hand.
Saying evolution and atheism go hand in hand is uninformed. I can debunk easily both evolution and flat earth.
 

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i asked someone from south america once about how fast the sun moved there compared to north america and they said they couldnt tell a difference
 

kinda

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Please explain this on a flat earth model.

If someone in the north, aims a camera at the northern night sky and starts a time lapse, the result will be all of the stars pivoting around a central point counter clockwise.

If someone in the south, aims a camera at the southern night sky starts a time lapse, the result will be all of the stars pivoting around a central point, but now clockwise.

The first example in the north makes sense on both flat and globe earth models. The second only makes sense on a globe earth.

The flat earth model is like painting stars on an upside down bowl, getting inside and watching it spin. At the top it’s pivoting around a central point. On the sides it’s just going sideways.

On a flat earth, the observed motion on the southern horizon should be strictly lateral, with no pivot point and moving around 3,000mph to complete a full rotation in 24 hours.

How can this be explained on a flat earth?
You have me confused with someone who believes in flat earth. I don't believe in flat earth. See Concave Hollow Earth thread.

This here is the true shape of the earth.

 

Zandar

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There is no point arguing about NASA, most believe it, and some don't. Probably the same percentage who watch Major News Network and those who don't Some believe what the see on t.v., others think it's propaganda.
very true, i thought i might give them a chance anyway
 
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You have me confused with someone who believes in flat earth. I don't believe in flat earth. See Concave Hollow Earth thread.

This here is the true shape of the earth.

Well that’s a minute and half I’ll never get back…