Flat earth debunked.

[MrE]

Some are calling this her flat earth song.....

 

[Zandar]

I don't claim to be a flat earth or round, but I don't believe the solar system is real because it does not make mechanical sense at all. I think we believe in it because we were told too when we were little bitty kids just like I hate front drive cars with all that is me because when I was a kid all the men hated them and they complained about it all the time. It's something that can't be undone in me and so is our believe in the solar system.

I liked Nikola Tesla because he believed in God and he believed the Bible. He got a lot of his inspiration from the Bible and he said so. He believed in it and yet he is the foundation of our modern electrical power grid. No one can argue that he wasn't a brilliant scientist and inventor and yet he did not believe the solar system worked the way modern science said it did and he had the guts to say so. And he had the knowledge to prove what he believed.

He had a plan to build a grid of electical towers that would transmit power over the air at high frequency so all you had to do to access this power was to have something wired to do so. Cars would run with no gas or batteries, houses would be lit with no lines. Of course the powers that be would never let that happen. Too much money involved. Too much power and control on the line.

 

[kinda]

I don't claim to be a flat earth or round, but I don't believe the solar system is real because it does not make mechanical sense at all. I think we believe in it because we were told too when we were little bitty kids just like I hate front drive cars with all that is me because when I was a kid all the men hated them and they complained about it all the time. It's something that can't be undone in me and so is our believe in the solar system.

I liked Nikola Tesla because he believed in God and he believed the Bible. He got a lot of his inspiration from the Bible and he said so. He believed in it and yet he is the foundation of our modern electrical power grid. No one can argue that he wasn't a brilliant scientist and inventor and yet he did not believe the solar system worked the way modern science said it did and he had the guts to say so. And he had the knowledge to prove what he believed.

He had a plan to build a grid of electical towers that would transmit power over the air at high frequency so all you had to do to access this power was to have something wired to do so. Cars would run with no gas or batteries, houses would be lit with no lines. Of course the powers that be would never let that happen. Too much money involved. Too much power and control on the line.

Fair enough. I think we will get along just fine then. Questioning is totally reasonable to me. I believe in inner space, which is pretty much contained in 8,000 miles. I don't believe the sun is more than 3,000 miles away, well 3,500 miles max. So, your quote on Tesla hit home to me. Never read that any where.

I read a book on Tesla's life, pretty familiar with his accomplishments. The saddest part about Tesla, he died a poor man. All his accomplishments in life, someone should of took care of him. Edison or Westinghouse, they didn't, and that is a shame. Anyways, yeah, I know what he did, and was a blessing to society.

I remember Tesla saying, Marconi got credited with creating the radio, but used many of my copyrighted patents....Or something close to this. Tesla was beyond genius, that pretty much sums it up. Whatever the next step up from genius, that was Tesla.

 

[Gideon300]

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Do you not understand plain english? The top photo shows the curved earth. Your eyesight is not good enough to detect it.

Tell me how the distance that the top photo covers and I'll tell you the curvature. As as has been said countless times, it is 200 mm over a distance of 1.6 km. Good luck with detecting that. You can prove that the earth is curved yourself. Find a dead flat area. Colour a 3 metre long stick different colours along its length. Make each segment of colour 200mm. Ensure that it remains vertical. Walk/run/cycle/drive 1.6 km. Observe the stick. You will note that the lower colour segment can no longer be seen. As you go further away, the segments progressively disappear due to the curvature of the earth. It is as simple as that. It will take you a 15 minute walk to dispel the folly of FE delusion. Except you will no doubt find a reason to disbelieve your eyes.

 

[Gideon300]

I don't claim to be a flat earth or round, but I don't believe the solar system is real because it does not make mechanical sense at all. I think we believe in it because we were told too when we were little bitty kids just like I hate front drive cars with all that is me because when I was a kid all the men hated them and they complained about it all the time. It's something that can't be undone in me and so is our believe in the solar system.

I liked Nikola Tesla because he believed in God and he believed the Bible. He got a lot of his inspiration from the Bible and he said so. He believed in it and yet he is the foundation of our modern electrical power grid. No one can argue that he wasn't a brilliant scientist and inventor and yet he did not believe the solar system worked the way modern science said it did and he had the guts to say so. And he had the knowledge to prove what he believed.

He had a plan to build a grid of electical towers that would transmit power over the air at high frequency so all you had to do to access this power was to have something wired to do so. Cars would run with no gas or batteries, houses would be lit with no lines. Of course the powers that be would never let that happen. Too much money involved. Too much power and control on the line.

Are you an electrician or trained in electronics? I have knowledge of both. In theory, Tesla was right. The technology is not yet available and for sure was not possible when he made his proposal. I love this "all you have to do" business. I can assure you that if it could be done, it would be done.

Something similar is being done. Wireless charging is available on many phones. Some roads have buried wireless chargers that can top up vehicle batteries.

I worked on high power high frequency devices in the navy. We had one so powerful that it would ignite oxygen loaded steel wool. It still was not powerful enough to provide energy for a home. You can detect high frequency, high power radio waves with a flourescent light tube. It will light up where there are "standing waves" (look it up). There is no way to generate enough power to supply homes and industry. The safety aspects alone make Tesla's idea impracticable.

 

[Zandar]

i have only a two year degree in electro-mechanical engineering. There are ways to transmit and recieve power over the air.

 

[Zandar]

 

[Zandar]

The tesla coil used really high frequencies. they are not harmful. he was working on the system but his sponsers shut him down and i have no doubt he would have developed workable recievers to convert these higher frequencies back down to usable energy

 

[Zandar]

a good friend of mine was in the navy and he always fascinated me talking about how their mine detection using elecrical fields worked

 

[kinda]

i have only a two year degree in electro-mechanical engineering. There are ways to transmit and recieve power over the air.

There is always a motive when it comes to power. Big oil, big energy, and big business/banks.



The oil and car companies bought up all the electrical trollies, than trashed them, to beef up the demand for gasoline. There are some conspiracies that state gas engines could get 100 mpg with 80's style cars, but the technology was buried as well.

Might of gone off topic a little. lol

 

[Gideon300]

Anyone who says, I seen the curvature of the earth, so I have a conclusion.

Let me just through this out there....

I seen some rail road tracks and they meet at the end. Look, I have proof.

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Just making a point.

Photos prove nothing without scale.

i have only a two year degree in electro-mechanical engineering. There are ways to transmit and recieve power over the air.

I did not say that there are not. Obviously wireless charging proves that it can be done. To power industry? Households? No way, at present. Tesla was a visionary, but there was not the technology to transmit power wirelessly in his time. In the mean time, poles/towers and wires are the only viable option. I believe that solar clusters are the best solution. Each suburb should include a solar/battery system with enough storage to power the suburb for a few days. This is being done a few k's from where I live. No doubt it's being done elsewhere. It reduces the load on the grid and reduces the need for massive power stations with long transmission lines.

If you really want to know more, I'd suggest this video. The comments are as helpful as the video. Some of the comments are from people doing research.

 

[GaryA]

It seems that some say you can see curvature while standing on the beach looking out at the ocean. Others say 'No - but you see curvature during a commercial plane flight'. Still others say 'No - that is not high enough - you must be much higher'.

I wish the Ball Earth folks would get their story straight and tell us just-exactly-and-precisely how high one can-and-cannot see curvature.

It can be seen from about 35,000 feet. However, the field of view from an aircraft is limited. Passengers can only see a very small segment of the curve. When you get to 70,000 feet, the curvature is much more obvious.

Since the curvature would be seen at the horizon, how far from the horizon would someone be at 35,000 feet to see curvature?

If passengers can only see a very small segment of the curve, how do they know it is a curve?

If the human eye can detect curvature in such a small field of view, why can the human eye not see a much greater curve over a much wider field of view a lot closer to the ground? (i.e. - on a beach looking out at a 150-180 degree wide field of view - from as far as you can see to the left to as far as you can see to the right - a very long continuous ocean/horizon line)

Very simple. The human eye is not good enough.

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Do you not understand plain english? The top photo shows the curved earth. Your eyesight is not good enough to detect it.

Did you mean that his eyesight is not good enough to detect it, but that yours is? Or, did you mean that no one has good enough eyesight to see it?

If no one has good enough eyesight to see it, the photo can hardly be properly said to be demonstrating or illustrating 'curved earth'.

You are avoiding the issue.

Just exactly how wide must the field of view be for curvature to be detectable by the human eye?

Again:

Since the curvature would be seen at the horizon, how far from the horizon would someone be at 35,000 feet to see curvature?

If passengers can only see a very small segment of the curve, how do they know it is a curve?

If the human eye can detect curvature in such a small field of view, why can the human eye not see a much greater curve over a much wider field of view a lot closer to the ground? (i.e. - on a beach looking out at a 150-180 degree wide field of view - from as far as you can see to the left to as far as you can see to the right - a very long continuous ocean/horizon line)

How/Why is it that a person on an airplane looking at the horizon with a comparatively narrow field of view can see curvature while the same person on the ground looking the horizon with a comparatively wide field of view cannot?

If a person were situated in the middle of the Pacific ocean - where nothing but ocean can be seen all the way to the horizon for 360 degrees about that position - maximum field of view - would they see curvature?

No, of course not - all they would see is the horizon - at eye-level - for 360 degrees about them.

If the side-to-side horizontal field-of-view distance is far more (especially if it is a continuous 360 degrees ) than the proposed distance from the person to the horizon - why do you not see side-to-side horizontal curvature?????

For example, if you claim that there is significant curvature between you and a ship on the ocean that is - say - 6 miles away - do you not realize that if the side-to-side horizontal field-of-view is greater than that - especially, much greater than that - you would see significant side-to-side horizontal curvature?????

The same amount of curvature between you and the ship would exist in the side-to-side horizontal direction also.

Do you not realize this?????

 

[MrE]

Did you mean that his eyesight is not good enough to detect it, but that yours is? Or, did you mean that no one has good enough eyesight to see it?

If no one has good enough eyesight to see it, the photo can hardly be properly said to be demonstrating or illustrating 'curved earth'.

You are avoiding the issue.

Just exactly how wide must the field of view be for curvature to be detectable by the human eye?

Again:

Since the curvature would be seen at the horizon, how far from the horizon would someone be at 35,000 feet to see curvature?

If passengers can only see a very small segment of the curve, how do they know it is a curve?

If the human eye can detect curvature in such a small field of view, why can the human eye not see a much greater curve over a much wider field of view a lot closer to the ground? (i.e. - on a beach looking out at a 150-180 degree wide field of view - from as far as you can see to the left to as far as you can see to the right - a very long continuous ocean/horizon line)

How/Why is it that a person on an airplane looking at the horizon with a comparatively narrow field of view can see curvature while the same person on the ground looking the horizon with a comparatively wide field of view cannot?

If a person were situated in the middle of the Pacific ocean - where nothing but ocean can be seen all the way to the horizon for 360 degrees about that position - maximum field of view - would they see curvature?

No, of course not - all they would see is the horizon - at eye-level - for 360 degrees about them.

If the side-to-side horizontal field-of-view distance is far more (especially if it is a continuous 360 degrees ) than the proposed distance from the person to the horizon - why do you not see side-to-side horizontal curvature?????

For example, if you claim that there is significant curvature between you and a ship on the ocean that is - say - 6 miles away - do you not realize that if the side-to-side horizontal field-of-view is greater than that - especially, much greater than that - you would see significant side-to-side horizontal curvature?????

The same amount of curvature between you and the ship would exist in the side-to-side horizontal direction also.

Do you not realize this?????

Hello Gary--

Good to see you here.

 

[MrE]

This was shot looking at Toronto from Niagara-- 30-35 miles away.

Not possible on a curved earth-- even the tallest buildings would be below 'the curve' and horizon line. All you would need to see even more of the buildings, right to the base of them- is a better camera.

 

[kinda]

Photos prove nothing without scale.

Looks like the flat earth map, will never be proven correct.

 

[Zandar]

Look at the UN flag.

 

[kinda]

Look at the UN flag.

Gideon said, without a scale, photos mean nothing.

 

[Cameron143]

Gideon said, without a scale, photos mean nothing.

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Just add some scales to the flag design. Adding scales to pictures shouldn't be hard with photoshop. Problem solved.

 

[kinda]

Just add some scales to the flag design. Adding scales to pictures shouldn't be hard with photoshop. Problem solved.

Great point!



I would recommend fish scales, that way that are fished in. Get it?

 

[Cameron143]

Great point!

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I would recommend fish scales, that way that are fished in. Get it?

It all sounds fishy to me.