In your opinion do you believe world is about 6000 years old

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That is what has been taught by most people. It does not, however, line up with the Gen 2-3 full story of Adam's creation, then Eve's creation, their disobedience after being lied to by the serpent, and then the discussion with God, followed by expulsion from the garden. Nowhere in that story did God tell them to be fruitful and multiply. He simply said that pain in childbirth would be increased, and that they would have to work for their sustenance.

In Gen 1, He created man and woman, presumably at the same time, and sent them out into the world to subdue it and fill it. Nowhere is there a mention of a prelude in a garden, followed by disobedience and expulsion... which is what led me to thinking that perhaps we've misunderstood how it all came about.
If God showed Moses the Creation, and then Moses wrote it down in the Torah, how much discrepancy do you think took place between writing down what the eye has seen? Enough to change the Narrative to think something else?
 

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That is what has been taught by most people. It does not, however, line up with the Gen 2-3 full story of Adam's creation, then Eve's creation, their disobedience after being lied to by the serpent, and then the discussion with God, followed by expulsion from the garden. Nowhere in that story did God tell them to be fruitful and multiply. He simply said that pain in childbirth would be increased, and that they would have to work for their sustenance.

In Gen 1, He created man and woman, presumably at the same time, and sent them out into the world to subdue it and fill it. Nowhere is there a mention of a prelude in a garden, followed by disobedience and expulsion... which is what led me to thinking that perhaps we've misunderstood how it all came about.
it coul be Adam and Eve where actually 1 thousand days old on day 7 l, but they never realised it.

It would make sense because then they would of known what sin was.

you might say what on earth. 😋

And you might say I'm presumptuous.

But if a true 24 hour period didn't start untill day 7 until the lord rested when the sun and moon where Put in place on day 3 they may not have started there cycle until the lord rested.

Adam and Eve could have experienced a day lasting 1000 years.

And here's the but.

They wouldn't have realise it.
 

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It's good to have usage of Job and Samuel

Isaiah 48:13
“Surely My hand founded the earth,
And My right hand spread out the heavens;
When I call to them, they stand together.

When He set for the sea its boundary
So that the water would not transgress His command,
When He marked out the foundations of the earth;

Psalm 104:5
He established the earth upon its foundations,
So that it will not totter forever and ever.

Jeremiah 31:37
Thus says the Lord,
“If the heavens above can be measured
And the foundations of the earth searched out below,
Then I will also cast off all the offspring of Israel
For all that they have done,” declares the Lord.
if you could you write your understanding of each scripture that would be useful thanks
 
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Honestly on one hand you say anything out of scripture is contrary to belief, and the other you post unhappy mojos.

but are you not also making suggestions out side of scripture to

genesis 1 .5 refering to the first day of creation only says God called the first day, day and night.

it doesn't say a true 24 hour period started from that point


Can you see now ? Yes no. How your determining one instance of God's time zone to ours in one instance but not in another,

and really moses I have to say, to go down the road of not being open to ponder and wonder with an open mind in this discussion is a little unfair
in doing a word study of the word day, there are differing meanings. What do you think of the statement from Answers in Genesis that states: "If God created the world over millions of years, there would have been death before the Fall"
 
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Isaiah 48:13
“Surely My hand founded the earth,
And My right hand spread out the heavens;
When I call to them, they stand together.
obedience

When He set for the sea its boundary
So that the water would not transgress His command,
When He marked out the foundations of the earth;
engineering

Psalm 104:5
He established the earth upon its foundations,
So that it will not totter forever and ever.
Design without Flaw Concepts

Jeremiah 31:37
Thus says the Lord,
“If the heavens above can be measured
And the foundations of the earth searched out below,
Then I will also cast off all the offspring of Israel
For all that they have done,” declares the Lord.
Science is dead wrong. what Laws and Measurements they have designed are inadequate to measure what God Created.

people are basing their existence on opinion.
imagine that?
 

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obedience


engineering


Design without Flaw Concepts


Science is dead wrong. what Laws and Measurements they have designed are inadequate to measure what God Created.

people are basing their existence on opinion.
imagine that?
it this last part aimed at me ?

Because I've shown you in scripture the foundations of the earth and the earth are two separate creations.i don't think I have measured that, scripture has. And scripture indicates the foundations are eternal but not the earth.
 

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If God showed Moses the Creation, and then Moses wrote it down in the Torah, how much discrepancy do you think took place between writing down what the eye has seen? Enough to change the Narrative to think something else?
i'm not exactly sure what you are getting at.
I think Moses wrote down exactly what God told him.
Any discrepancy would be in how we have taken for granted that Gen 2-3 is a "fine detailing" of day 6, Gen 1.
I am speculating that they were two separate events.
The outcome is still the same.... God created the universe, man, etc....
My speculation would clarify a LOT, if not all, of what the nay-sayers, creation deniers, atheists throw out as "this is why I don't believe in God's creation... because science shows otherwise"..... and it would still be purely scriptural.
 

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i'm not exactly sure what you are getting at.
I think Moses wrote down exactly what God told him.
Any discrepancy would be in how we have taken for granted that Gen 2-3 is a "fine detailing" of day 6, Gen 1.
I am speculating that they were two separate events.
The outcome is still the same.... God created the universe, man, etc....
My speculation would clarify a LOT, if not all, of what the nay-sayers, creation deniers, atheists throw out as "this is why I don't believe in God's creation... because science shows otherwise"..... and it would still be purely scriptural.
If they won't believe Moses and the Prophets, it doesn't really matter what explanation you give.
 

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in doing a word study of the word day, there are differing meanings. What do you think of the statement from Answers in Genesis that states: "If God created the world over millions of years, there would have been death before the Fall"
God never created the earth over a millions years, that's was a point I made earlier.

I made the point God created the foundations of the earth over millions or even billions of years.

Two separate creatations.

My believe is he created the earth over a thousand years on day 1 of genesis and built it up on the foundations of the earth.

Scripture indicates the foundations where created in his heaven, ( not the heavens that surround the world.) Scripture also indicates the foundations of the earth are eternal, ( stone rock urainimu steal diomonds sapphires gold silver lead copper nickel bronze aluminium all that stuff.
 

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God is outside of time. It doesn't mean He doesn't know what time is. He told us as clearly as could be stated that He created the Earth in 7, 24-hour days. Any belief to the contrary is not supported by scripture.

Men dream up lots of coulds, and woulds, and might-haves. But the days of creation are not one of these, as God has stated it outright.
Ok friend dream on this.

how about the idea that when God rested on the seventh day he actual left earth and went back to his dwelling place.

And when he left on the seventh day this is when a true 24 hour period started for earth.

It would make sense that the mechanisms of earth would only start when he had finished building and creating 🙂

So for 6000 years he built earth upon foundations that had been created in his world.

But any living creature on the earth would not have realised one day being as long as a thousand 🙂. But they may have noticed a change 🙂

So in other words when God arrived to build this world he brought his building blocks with him (the foundations of the earth).

And not only Was God here to aid the build but all his angels.
 

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In my studies I have found the world is about 6000 years old. Anyone else studied time from Adam?????
I believe that God gave mankind about 6000 years and then He would end sin on Earth, and Jesus would rule with the saints over one sixth of the world God spared at the Battle of Armageddon for 1000 years.

For the people that believe God used evolution for the process of creation it is not true.

God created everything in their mature state and the life forms in their mature state and they reproduced from there.

For the Bible says they reproduced after their kind which means they did not come from a lower species and move up but the life forms were created in their mature form and then reproduced after their own kind.

Also God created the life forms from the dust of the Earth so they did not come from a lower species and move up.

It says for the first day the evening and the morning was the first day and so on with all 6 days so it was a literal 6 days.

God is an omnipresent Spirit so He does not have to move to create things for He is already there.

So God can simultaneously create all things at the same time.

By the time it takes Him to create one planet He can create them all.

The time it takes Him to make one fish it made them all.

Same with animals and can create all those things at the same time.

Which means God can create fast and could of created all things in less than 6 days if He wanted to but He wanted 6 days to create.
 

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You are sort of presuming a lot, saying they would have been sinless. How long did it take Adam and Eve to sin?
I imagine that generic man and woman were sinning from the very start.... it is human nature, after all.
Adam and Eve are how sin came into the world for God's chosen people.
How do you think the serpent became crafty? It just all of a sudden became crafty and deceitful when Eve showed up?
Wow. I'm pretty much at a lose for words after that post. Anyway, I hope you will seriously consider the points made as they come directly from the word. And as you know all answers are in there:

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:" 2 Tim. 3:16
 

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I believe that God gave mankind about 6000 years and then He would end sin on Earth, and Jesus would rule with the saints over one sixth of the world God spared at the Battle of Armageddon for 1000 years.

For the people that believe God used evolution for the process of creation it is not true.

God created everything in their mature state and the life forms in their mature state and they reproduced from there.

For the Bible says they reproduced after their kind which means they did not come from a lower species and move up but the life forms were created in their mature form and then reproduced after their own kind.

Also God created the life forms from the dust of the Earth so they did not come from a lower species and move up.

It says for the first day the evening and the morning was the first day and so on with all 6 days so it was a literal 6 days.

God is an omnipresent Spirit so He does not have to move to create things for He is already there.

So God can simultaneously create all things at the same time.

By the time it takes Him to create one planet He can create them all.

The time it takes Him to make one fish it made them all.

Same with animals and can create all those things at the same time.

Which means God can create fast and could of created all things in less than 6 days if He wanted to but He wanted 6 days to create.
Hello Montana

Where did you get the idea the Lord is going to reign over 1/6 from battle of Armageddon
 

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No, I do not believe that the universe is only 6,000 years old.
 

Fundaamental

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Do you feel that Almighty God is unable to create all these things in 6-24hr days or what is your reasoning?
I don't I believe God spent 6000 years building and creating the earth and it's contents and its surrounding the heavens as the lord is very meticulous and precise he didn't want to do a rush Job as he is a true Genius 🙂
But of course to us it would have felt like 6 days but long days