Ukraine the bad guy?

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JohnDB

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nbc is not real news.

just gov. propaganda.
Have you ever served in the armed forces of America?
I personally don't believe that you have otherwise you wouldn't be saying anything like what you just said.
 

ZNP

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Have you ever served in the armed forces of America?
I personally don't believe that you have otherwise you wouldn't be saying anything like what you just said.
My grandfather was at Pearl Harbor when it was bombed, my dad was 12 at the time, later he was in the Army during the Korean war. So he was a Navy Brat who later joined the army.

He worked for UPI, the CIA tried to get them to buy a small front news operation in Florida, he nixed the deal, didn't want his reporters to be treated like spies. George Bush called him into his office (he was head of the CIA) and tried to get him to change his mind by promising it would be very good for his career. He refused and so was forced to leave UPI and went to the NY Times. Shortly after that they published a puff piece on the JFK assassination, basically printing a story coming straight from the CIA. My dad objected and so was forced to leave the NYT. There was a little blurb on page 1 when he left saying that he was disagreeing with the business practices of the NYT.

Your comment makes no sense, just because someone served in the military doesn't mean they are blind to the takeover of the US media. Nor does it mean they have been coopted by these crooks and liars.
 
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Great news today! Despite Wicked Russia blowing up the Kahkovka Dam in order to stall the Ukrainian coutneroffensive, the Ukrainians have still managed to cross the Dnipro River and begin the liberation of the town of Nova Kahkovka! Additionally the heights around Bakhmut have been taken and the Lord Jesus Christ has given the high ground to the good guys of Ukraine. US Secretary of Defense mocks Russia's claims of destroying tanks pointing out that they are showing pictures of the same handful of tanks over and over again and are coping hard in their lies. Victory belongs to God, PRAISE JESUS!

 

ZNP

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Great news today! Despite Wicked Russia blowing up the Kahkovka Dam in order to stall the Ukrainian coutneroffensive, the Ukrainians have still managed to cross the Dnipro River and begin the liberation of the town of Nova Kahkovka! Additionally the heights around Bakhmut have been taken and the Lord Jesus Christ has given the high ground to the good guys of Ukraine. US Secretary of Defense mocks Russia's claims of destroying tanks pointing out that they are showing pictures of the same handful of tanks over and over again and are coping hard in their lies. Victory belongs to God, PRAISE JESUS!

 

JohnDB

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Oh cartoon time, good idea.
I liked the scene with the HIMARS in it....that got a chuckle out of me.

The truth is that the young generation is all ultra nationalistic in Ukraine...

The older generations (over 60) aren't so nationalistic....they are local community minded but don't care about who is in charge of the government.

The USSR and communism gave the people an illusion of security. So they kinda missed it when it fell apart.

The past is over...the future is a free and independent Ukraine. Where Ukraine is not perfect by a long shot...They will keep it after this fight.

Poland is getting rather anxious....they want a crack at the Russians really badly...if Ukraine falters with this counter-offense....it's going to be difficult to keep them out. They hate Russia with a passion. I remember when they started a grass roots labor movement long before the USSR fell....they fought long and hard to free themselves from the Soviets.

In the end they declared independence long before Gorbachev gave it to them....it just became too expensive for the USSR to fight them to keep them anymore. Today the Ruble is at 0.015 Euro. About a penny in US Dollar.

Texas has a larger economy and GDP than Russia does. It's not looking good for Russia to continue much longer...especially when the soldiers are not actually getting paid. It will be over quick when it all crashes down. The Russian propaganda campaigns will end then...the Iranian ones will continue though.
 
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I liked the scene with the HIMARS in it....that got a chuckle out of me.

The truth is that the young generation is all ultra nationalistic in Ukraine...

The older generations (over 60) aren't so nationalistic....they are local community minded but don't care about who is in charge of the government.

The USSR and communism gave the people an illusion of security. So they kinda missed it when it fell apart.

The past is over...the future is a free and independent Ukraine. Where Ukraine is not perfect by a long shot...They will keep it after this fight.

Poland is getting rather anxious....they want a crack at the Russians really badly...if Ukraine falters with this counter-offense....it's going to be difficult to keep them out. They hate Russia with a passion. I remember when they started a grass roots labor movement long before the USSR fell....they fought long and hard to free themselves from the Soviets.

In the end they declared independence long before Gorbachev gave it to them....it just became too expensive for the USSR to fight them to keep them anymore. Today the Ruble is at 0.015 Euro. About a penny in US Dollar.

Texas has a larger economy and GDP than Russia does. It's not looking good for Russia to continue much longer...especially when the soldiers are not actually getting paid. It will be over quick when it all crashes down. The Russian propaganda campaigns will end then...the Iranian ones will continue though.
This is truly a great post. Ah Soviet propaganda.

How the Unholy Russian Spiritual Principality Started in Unholy Revolution

How it's going poorly for Unholy Russia trying to recreate the USSR. Well they got their insane self-defeating Soviet bureacracy still it seems. Glory to Heroes, PRAISE JESUS!
 

cv5

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nbc is not real news.

just gov. propaganda.
Evidently (and tragically) @JohnDB is this guy at the table....

"If you have been in a poker game for a while, and you still don’t know who the patsy is, you’re the patsy."
 

cv5

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Are you telling me that the saintly Ukrainians under Zelensky are liars?
If you happen to be known as @JohnDB , every lie Z utters is a true one. The endless fusillade of nose candy fueled diatribes can be trusted 100% regardless of their veracity and despite whether they are rooted in physical reality or not.
 

cv5

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The only thing that could make this story even better is if Boris gets the Nobel Peace prize.
Knight Grand Cross of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire?
 

Gideon300

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On the one hand Russia is militarily weak, morally pathetic, suffering from a mortally wounded failing economy, is handicapped with incompetent leaders.....

And the same time is the world's greatest adversary to "freedom" and an extremely dangerous imminent threat to Eastern Europe and the might of NATO the world has ever known.

As you can see such conflicting yet bodacious claims by the West are patently absurd.....to anyone with an IQ higher than room temperature.
If you allow a bunch of bad tempered teenagers to run rampage through your area, you will suffer harm, not matter how good your police force is. That's happening in Australia. If you allow Russia to run rampage through Ukraine, without challenging them, then Ukraine will be subjugated. Russia will build up its forces and get ready for the next phase. Putin's stated intent is to reclaim the former soviet republics. NATO is nowhere near as powerful as people imagine. In spite of grand statements, Germany has done little to update its army. Poland is showing some spine. Hardly surprising, considering its past. NATO is still hand wringing, hoping that Ukraine will do its dirty work for them. Ukraine is hamstrung by the West's insistence that they do not attack Russian territory. The one thing that Russia has up its sleeve is nukes. It may be an empty threat, but no one is prepared to take the risk.
 

cv5

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The only thing that could make this story even better is if Boris gets the Nobel Peace prize.
The pirates of perfidious Albion are commonly heaped upon with titles and honors.