In your opinion do you believe world is about 6000 years old

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Fundaamental

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He created time in creation. That's what the sun and moon indicate. Evening and morning. Day 2. Evening and morning. Day 3. Etc.
scripture indicates God is not the author of confusion.

By all accounts the earth being 7000 years old by day 7 puts simplicity into understanding repopulation and how Adam and Eve knowing what sin was.

What your not see is a day lasting as long as a thousand years

And seeing 1000 days instead.
 

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scripture indicates God is not the author of confusion.

By all accounts the earth being 7000 years old by day 7 puts simplicity into understanding repopulation and how Adam and Eve knowing what sin was.

What your not see is a day lasting as long as a thousand years

And seeing 1000 days instead.
got confused here by day 7 the earth was 6000 years old not 7
 

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if you are wise you will understand that the 6 days of creation represent 6000 years and the 1000 year reign of the Lord as a day--7th or Sabbath day, the day of rest
Nother extraordinary fact is if you divide 144000 days by 6000 days you get 24.

24 is very important number to the lord and it could be the 24 elders in heaven where ministering saints to the 144000 saints in heaven
 

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You quoted commencement of Solomons temple from Wikipedia at 967 BC. Taking my Exodus date of 2553 and add 480 years is 967BC or 3033 from creation. I have them 315 years in Egypt. Also between the Septuagint which say 430 in Cannan and Egypt and the Masorectic text which says 430 years in Egypt.

I dont think the 4 generations who entered Egypt were living long enough to be in Egypt for 430 years. Since two generations entered I went scrubbing the first generation and saying the second generation were all newborns for maximum error. The fourth generation I substracted 40 years for being in the wilderness.

I have Jacob standing before Pharoah in year 2238 and adding 315 years gives me an Exodus date of 2553.

One more item to consider is Galations 3:15-18 in which a covenant can be a man's will.

15 To give a human example, brethren: no one annuls even a man’s will, or adds to it, once it has been ratified. 16 Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “And to offsprings,” referring to many; but, referring to one, “And to your offspring,” which is Christ. 17 This is what I mean: the law, which came four hundred and thirty years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void. 18 For if the inheritance is by the law, it is no longer by promise; but God gave it to Abraham by a promise.

I am not condemnng your work but sharing our differences.

I have 315 years in Egypt and 115 years in Cannan
"add 480 years" ......+ the 113 out-of-fellowship years = 593 years.
When Paul says "about 450 years" (Acts 13:17) he means 473 years.

And four generations is.....four generations, spanning THE SUM OF THE AGES OF THESE PATRIARCHS. Which is the KEY TO CORRECTLY DATING THE GENESIS GENEOLOGIES.

This is the genealogy of Moses.
Just as near east biblical kings and their reginal years were used in creating a "calendar" (which is EVERYWERE in Scripture BTW), so it was with our Bible Patriarchs, who were God's elect representatives on the earth.

Levi 77 years in Egypt

Kohath 133 years in Egypt

Amram 137 years in Egypt

Aaron 83 years in Egypt

430 years total time

1Ch 6:1
The sons of Levi; Gershon, Kohath, and Merari.
1Ch 6:2
And the sons of Kohath; Amram, Izhar, and Hebron, and Uzziel.
1Ch 6:3
And the children of Amram; Aaron, and Moses, and Miriam. The sons also of Aaron; Nadab, and Abihu, Eleazar, and Ithamar.

There are MANY MANY OTHER intervening members of this genealogy. But only the FOUR PATRIARCHES are noted."


"To solve this puzzle, let us assume that God is giving us the calendar for the Israelitish sojourn in Egypt. One might recall that Jacob came to Egypt with his sons including Levi, and that the Israelites went out of Egypt under the leadership of Moses and Aaron. Both Levi and Aaron are mentioned in Exodus 6 and the age of Aaron at the time of Israel's departure from Egypt is given as 83 (Exodus 7:7). It can be shown from the Biblical references that when Levi entered Egypt he was 60 to 63 years of age, with the burden of the evidence pointing to 60 years.5 Since he died at the age of 137, he lived 77 years in Egypt. If this is a calendar giving the names of the reference patriarchs or generations, we would expect that Kohath was a descendant of Levi and was born the year of Levi's death; and that Amram was a descendant of Kohath, and that he was born the year of Kohath's death. Aaron in turn was born the year of Amram's death, and was descended from Amram."

The sojourn lasted PRECISELY 430 years according to infallible SCRIPTURE. Not guesswork."



https://christianchat.com/threads/how-old-is-our-creation-really.194803/post-4609719

https://christianchat.com/threads/l...have-a-biblical-worldview.182445/post-3834586

https://christianchat.com/threads/no-major-doctrines-changed.210115/post-5047992

https://christianchat.com/threads/the-author-and-date-of-the-book-of-job.209493/post-5019778
 

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I have 315 years in Egypt and 115 years in Cannan
The "short sojourn" is unbiblical rubbish.

430 years of families should equal a very large number, and it does.

Num 26:57
And these are they that were numbered of the Levites after their families: of Gershon, the family of the Gershonites: of Kohath, the family of the Kohathites: of Merari, the family of the Merarites.
Num 26:58
These are the families of the Levites: the family of the Libnites, the family of the Hebronites, the family of the Mahlites, the family of the Mushites, the family of the Korathites. And Kohath begat Amram.
Num 26:59
And the name of Amram's wife was Jochebed, the daughter of Levi, whom her mother bare to Levi in Egypt: and she bare unto Amram Aaron and Moses, and Miriam their sister.
Num 26:60
And unto Aaron was born Nadab, and Abihu, Eleazar, and Ithamar.
Num 26:61
And Nadab and Abihu died, when they offered strange fire before the LORD.
Num 26:62
And those that were numbered of them were twenty and three thousand, all males from a month old and upward: for they were not numbered among the children of Israel, because there was no inheritance given them among the children of Israel.
Num 26:63
These are they that were numbered by Moses and Eleazar the priest, who numbered the children of Israel in the plains of Moab by Jordan near Jericho.
Num 26:64
But among these there was not a man of them whom Moses and Aaron the priest numbered, when they numbered the children of Israel in the wilderness of Sinai.
Num 26:65
For the LORD had said of them, They shall surely die in the wilderness. And there was not left a man of them, save Caleb the son of Jephunneh, and Joshua the son of Nun.
 

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Number can be used for all sorts of speculation 😊

In the UK they say when you dial 999 which is are emergency service free phone number for the police your actually phoning the devil because 999 is 666 upside down
 

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Then apparently the number 13 is actually a Shaw sign your going to hell
 

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"add 480 years" ......+ the 113 out-of-fellowship years = 593 years.
When Paul says "about 450 years" (Acts 13:17) he means 473 years.

And four generations is.....four generations, spanning THE SUM OF THE AGES OF THESE PATRIARCHS. Which is the KEY TO CORRECTLY DATING THE GENESIS GENEOLOGIES.

The four generations mentioned are Judah, Perez, Hezron, and Amram

Please compare apples to apples-I guess we will have to disagree
 

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if you are wise you will understand that the 6 days of creation represent 6000 years and the 1000 year reign of the Lord as a day--7th or Sabbath day, the day of rest
how come you get to be happy about your views about numbers but not anyone else's 🤔
 
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Because evidence from the natural sciences strongly indicates so.
As a Mathematician and Researcher, Science has not proven anything pertaining to the Universe.

Since i follow God, I know His ways are far superior than a simple 153 IQ

I personally accept this Verse as absolute truth and fact.

Jeremiah 31:37
Thus says the Lord,
“If the heavens above can be measured
And the foundations of the earth searched out below,

Then I will also cast off all the offspring of Israel
For all that they have done,” declares the Lord.

The Jews are still a people so it's clear Science is unable to measure the Universe and the Foundations.

You see, Science looks at the Universe and works from Center Outward and the distance from Center to Edge can only be measured by years. They created the Laws of Physics and began measuring distance by light. They concluded that it's natural for smaller objects to surround themselves to a greater mass object that became Galaxies. All sounds legit.

But, what has Science fooled. God created the Universe at full expansion. it only appears to be billions of years old because the vast size of the Universe. With a Vast Expanded Universe from word Go, the Laws of Physics and Measurement are still able to apply. But the fact that God tells us the Universe cannot be Measured, shows us how He tricked Science. Expanded Universe and humans naturally assume it has to work from Center Outward. They have been deceived by God. And people like me that do their same Mathematics and similar research, laugh at the idiots.
 

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As a Mathematician and Researcher, Science has not proven anything pertaining to the Universe.

Since i follow God, I know His ways are far superior than a simple 153 IQ

I personally accept this Verse as absolute truth and fact.

Jeremiah 31:37
Thus says the Lord,
“If the heavens above can be measured
And the foundations of the earth searched out below,

Then I will also cast off all the offspring of Israel
For all that they have done,” declares the Lord.

The Jews are still a people so it's clear Science is unable to measure the Universe and the Foundations.

You see, Science looks at the Universe and works from Center Outward and the distance from Center to Edge can only be measured by years. They created the Laws of Physics and began measuring distance by light. They concluded that it's natural for smaller objects to surround themselves to a greater mass object that became Galaxies. All sounds legit.

But, what has Science fooled. God created the Universe at full expansion. it only appears to be billions of years old because the vast size of the Universe. With a Vast Expanded Universe from word Go, the Laws of Physics and Measurement are still able to apply. But the fact that God tells us the Universe cannot be Measured, shows us how He tricked Science. Expanded Universe and humans naturally assume it has to work from Center Outward. They have been deceived by God. And people like me that do their same Mathematics and similar research, laugh at the idiots.
but yet you still haven't answered if the foundations of the earth where created in heaven but only formed a view on it despite me showing you in scripture
 
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if you are wise you will understand that the 6 days of creation represent 6000 years and the 1000 year reign of the Lord as a day--7th or Sabbath day, the day of rest
1 literal week for Creation, then 6,000 years for 6 days, then 1,000 years for Mill Reign.
2 perfect weeks divided into hours and years.
 
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but yet you still haven't answered if the foundations of the earth where created in heaven but only formed a view on it despite me showing you in scripture
the Foundations are the Laws of Physics, but we know, that will eventually fail:

Psalm 104:5
He established the earth upon its foundations,
So that it will not totter forever and ever.

Tottering:
This is the rotational spin while allowing the magnetic pull/gravity/electromagnetic fields of the Sun combined with the Density of the Planet Earth keep us at a safe distance to utilize the Sun without it being a natural weapon against us.
 

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We can't count the generation of Judah because two generations entered'

Using the length of Levi for every generation living as long as Levi

For maximum error we are going to say the generation of Perez lived 137 years in Egypt

Generation of Hezon lived in Egypt for 137 years

Generation of Amram which came out of Egypt lived 137 years with 40 years in wilderness

Judah--------0
Perez---------137 years
Hezon--------137 years
Amram------- 97 years
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Total max----371 years

So it was impossible for Israel to be in Egypt for 430 uyears
 

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the Foundations are the Laws of Physics, but we know, that will eventually fail:

Psalm 104:5
He established the earth upon its foundations,
So that it will not totter forever and ever.

Tottering:
This is the rotational spin while allowing the magnetic pull/gravity/electromagnetic fields of the Sun combined with the Density of the Planet Earth keep us at a safe distance to utilize the Sun without it being a natural weapon against us.
Sheesh this doesn't answer whether the foundations of the earth where created in heaven
 
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Sheesh this doesn't answer whether the foundations of the earth where created in heaven
The Verse tells you:
Psalm 104:5
He established the earth upon its foundations,
So that it will not totter forever and ever.

He did it while Speaking the Sun into existence and this Galaxy. The entire Galaxy works on the SAME Laws or FOUNDATIONS that God assigned them to be. Everything in the Galaxy is working from the Core Outward with the Sun being the Mass Magnetic Force. The other Laws create Rotation and Spin. The Density, not the size, of the Planet, determines how close it will be to the Sun. God placed Earth where any closer or further away, LIFE, would be Impossible.
 

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The Verse tells you:
Psalm 104:5
He established the earth upon its foundations,
So that it will not totter forever and ever.

He did it while Speaking the Sun into existence and this Galaxy. The entire Galaxy works on the SAME Laws or FOUNDATIONS that God assigned them to be. Everything in the Galaxy is working from the Core Outward with the Sun being the Mass Magnetic Force. The other Laws create Rotation and Spin. The Density, not the size, of the Planet, determines how close it will be to the Sun. God placed Earth where any closer or further away, LIFE, would be Impossible.
your explaining the function of the earths foundations,

and not where they where created or how old the foundations are.
 
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your explaining the function of the earths foundations,

and not where they where created or how old the foundations are.
They were created at CREATION!
that Verse tells you specifically at which point in CREATION God did this!