Ukraine the bad guy?

[cv5]

He has good information, makes some valid points, strongly questions the narrative that Russia would blow of the power plant. He also discusses inferential evidence that the western powers were in on the coup. To me there is no need to debate this, if for example, the US gave this guy $6 billion to stage a coup, then it is certain Putin knows that by now. The evidence is $6 billion and that is undeniable, proof beyond all reasonable doubt.

NS pipeline - ecological disaster
Kakhovka dam - even larger ecological disaster
Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant - is it close enough to Belarus and/or Crimea to get the job done?

 

[cv5]

Western nations will paint anybody who challenges them or who does something they don't want them to do as the 'bad guy'.
The reality RE Russia/Ukraine is this: The EU are on a power grab and invited Ukraine to join. Same for NATO.
Russia, perfectly understandably, saw this as a threat.

Really the problem is that they are messing with the wrong guy and country.
Putin is just too canny and Russia is just too big.

 

[cv5]

I find it offensive to openly praise Jesus for the death of many russian soldiers, who I know don't really want to fight this war.

I witnessed them pleading with Ukrainian civilians to not make the situation worse than it allready was.

I also know the heart break many russians are going through as a result of this war

You keep saying unholy Russia, which means every russian person, your asking me to praise Jesus for genocide.

I can't do it.

Your asking me praise Jesus for organisations like NATO who do deals with terrorists

Can't do it.

I find it offensive.

I would ask you stop it and be more open in realising zelenski is also doing dealings with terrorists,

All governments are all the same, rich terrorists, they get richer whilst civilians get poorer.


So wake up and smell the coffee.

And realize this guy is a troll. Obviously.

 

[Fundaamental]

And realize this guy is a troll. Obviously.

I hope not.

Perhaps he will see is error of denial regarding Diserment 😊

 

[cv5]

When the losing begins, they always turn on their own. I mean, if you cannot win and overtake another country, then might as well take over your own.....right? Thats how these nutters roll. Very predictable.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1673167795972964353

 

[cv5]

".....end to the war psychosis"?
Sounds like sane advice to me.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1673249103327764483

 

[ZNP]

This is like seeing your car stuck on the train tracks as aa train approaches that is not going to stop. You have plenty of time to run, plenty of time to repent.

 

[cv5]

UKRAINE BLOCKS JOURNALISTS FROM FRONT LINES WITH ESCALATING CENSORSHIP
“It’s wild how little of what’s happening is being chronicled.”

Ukraine Blocks Journalists From Front Lines With Escalating Censorship (theintercept.com)

And Z has suspended elections too. Smells much more like a nation writhing in its death spasms than striding to certain victory to me.

 

[Fundaamental]

Could be this latest stunt from Putin was to use the social media to gain public attention so that more economical instability could arise.

And countries like USA NATO all those countries promoting this public attention again so economical instability can arise

 

[BearerOfTheMorningStar]

There simply isn't any valid reason, again you ignore my request,

I'll give you one last chance and if you continue, that's it. Your bridges will be burnt with me.

Theres are hardly any russian people who would say no to Russia because of being scared of russia to say no

Have you read about endless social media reports, about what happens to people when they do say no to Russia and dont do what there asked too do.

If you continue to ask me to praise Jesus for the death of those kind of people,

Then that's it your final bridge will be burnt.

Do you want that or would you rather honor a request 🙂

I do not pity them at all if they side with Unholy Russia against God, their excuse of fearing Putin more than fearing God is foolishness and is an invalid excuse. You can burn whatever bridges you please and that's your choice, I burn nothing, but I tell you my God is an all-consuming flame. I'm going to keep praising the only true God that even exists, Jesus, for destroying Unholy Russia's bridges, how he is a powerful God, strengthener of Heroes, destroyer of the villainous wicked spirtual principalities of darkness, a Living God. I will decline your request that is tantamount to stop praising Jesus for his might and power, I will decline your request and I will not repent of praising Jesus for the good guys, Ukraine, and I will not repent of praising Jesus for destroying the wicked villains of our time, Unholy Russia. GOD BLESS AMERICA, GOD SAVE THE KING OF ENGLAND, GOD ENLARGE THE SEED OF FATHER JAPHETH AND MOTHER EUROPA, SLAVA UKRAINI, PRAISE JESUS!

 

[ZNP]

UKRAINE BLOCKS JOURNALISTS FROM FRONT LINES WITH ESCALATING CENSORSHIP
“It’s wild how little of what’s happening is being chronicled.”

Ukraine Blocks Journalists From Front Lines With Escalating Censorship (theintercept.com)

And Z has suspended elections too. Smells much more like a nation writhing in its death spasms than striding to certain victory to me.

Redacted has a journalist embedded on the front lines with the Russians. Apparently the Russians have no qualms about journalists reporting what they are seeing.

 

[BearerOfTheMorningStar]

Where's Putin? Doesn't matter where he hides, that Hand of God will find him, he is doomed, praise Jesus.

 

[Fundaamental]

Where's Putin? Doesn't matter where he hides, that Hand of God will find him, he is doomed, praise Jesus.

as long as you keep praising jesus aimed at Putin's downfall I can handle that,

But please don't use this term when mentioning russians in general. 😊

 

[BearerOfTheMorningStar]

as long as you keep praising jesus aimed at Putin's downfall I can handle that,

But please don't use this term when mentioning russians in general. 😊

Too bad for them, they are excommunicated by the decree of my Master. They must flee Unholy Russia or join the Holy Revolution, against Unholy Russia and destroy and fight Unholy Russia too. God has determined doom upon Wicked Russia because they are Satanic, death to Satan and all his evil children. They have no excuses now after seeing what God has done to Wicked Russia in the past three days, PRAISE JESUS!

 

[Fundaamental]

From what I'm seeing from social media. It's the same old same old. On social media we see the same scenario playing out. Social media news is now 24 hours a day broadcasting fear. Russia is once again demonstrating how much power they have and not afraid to use measures of whatever means necessary, and how Putin is a man who means business.

NATO are also broadcasting how all these latest events are first or all about just Russian internal problems and how they are only there too help Ukraine, again emphasizing the need for further war.

And at the same time promoting a narrative that suggests they're the good guys who don't take sides.

Russians have broadcast that they don't think nato has caused this latest Rebellion.

Whikst NATO have responded by saying they don't think Russia are going to blow up the nuclear power plant in Ukraine.

on the other hand Russia are still holding the west responsible for the economical instability in their country and saying Russia has been forced to put themselves into a position to have no options to defend its country at whatever cost.

So on one hand we see both NATO and Russia emphasizing that they are not the type of country to take sides, but on the other hand, then directly accusing each other for going to war further.

All along this is broadcast on social media news 24 hours a day, once again being the center of attention, and once again fear coming to people in so many ways, where once again economical instability becomes a contributing factor in businessman all over the world, making business decisions causing more economical instability.

It seems to be a common factor in everywhere every war when there is a war there's always some economical instability, which suggests that there is a reason for that, one being economical instability gives the current dictators in power of any country more credibility to rule further, whilst more fear around the world is breeded

 

[ZNP]

From what I'm seeing from social media. It's the same old same old. On social media we see the same scenario playing out. Social media news is now 24 hours a day broadcasting fear. Russia is once again demonstrating how much power they have and not afraid to use measures of whatever means necessary, and how Putin is a man who means business.

NATO are also broadcasting how all these latest events are first or all about just Russian internal problems and how they are only there too help Ukraine, again emphasizing the need for further war.

And at the same time promoting a narrative that suggests they're the good guys who don't take sides.

Russians have broadcast that they don't think nato has caused this latest Rebellion.

Whikst NATO have responded by saying they don't think Russia are going to blow up the nuclear power plant in Ukraine.

on the other hand Russia are still holding the west responsible for the economical instability in their country and saying Russia has been forced to put themselves into a position to have no options to defend its country at whatever cost.

So on one hand we see both NATO and Russia emphasizing that they are not the type of country to take sides, but on the other hand, then directly accusing each other for going to war further.

All along this is broadcast on social media news 24 hours a day, once again being the center of attention, and once again fear coming to people in so many ways, where once again economical instability becomes a contributing factor in businessman all over the world, making business decisions causing more economical instability.

It seems to be a common factor in everywhere every war when there is a war there's always some economical instability, which suggests that there is a reason for that, one being economical instability gives the current dictators in power of any country more credibility to rule further, whilst more fear around the world is breeded

Any social media site that is monetized by advertising should be treated with fear and trembling. They have very powerful tools to manipulate you. The general rule is that if you do not pay for a product you are the product that is for sale.

So then I would not allow them to recommend news to me. You do the heavy lifting of looking for reliable sources and listening and watching them to get your updates.

 

[JohnDB]

From what I'm seeing from social media. It's the same old same old. On social media we see the same scenario playing out. Social media news is now 24 hours a day broadcasting fear. Russia is once again demonstrating how much power they have and not afraid to use measures of whatever means necessary, and how Putin is a man who means business.

NATO are also broadcasting how all these latest events are first or all about just Russian internal problems and how they are only there too help Ukraine, again emphasizing the need for further war.

And at the same time promoting a narrative that suggests they're the good guys who don't take sides.

Russians have broadcast that they don't think nato has caused this latest Rebellion.

Whikst NATO have responded by saying they don't think Russia are going to blow up the nuclear power plant in Ukraine.

on the other hand Russia are still holding the west responsible for the economical instability in their country and saying Russia has been forced to put themselves into a position to have no options to defend its country at whatever cost.

So on one hand we see both NATO and Russia emphasizing that they are not the type of country to take sides, but on the other hand, then directly accusing each other for going to war further.

All along this is broadcast on social media news 24 hours a day, once again being the center of attention, and once again fear coming to people in so many ways, where once again economical instability becomes a contributing factor in businessman all over the world, making business decisions causing more economical instability.

It seems to be a common factor in everywhere every war when there is a war there's always some economical instability, which suggests that there is a reason for that, one being economical instability gives the current dictators in power of any country more credibility to rule further, whilst more fear around the world is breeded

Oh I am not going to disagree about News Media promoting fear and wants....that's just about all they do.

However,
The news concerning the insurrection/Civil War in Russia was discussed by true experts (if you actually filter out the idiots) while it was happening with live updates on Social Media. During this time MSM was busy talking about the mini-sub, the weather, Brexit, or whatever. Only reporting on the coup/insurrection by the time it was over....or about the time the tic tok Chechens showed up.

The aftermath of the rebellion is of course bringing out all the crazy conspiracy nuts with outlandish claims which are completely unsubstantiated. (Although they claim they are)
Nothing but hype and speculation.

But....Social media platforms did have the truth as well as a haystack of lies and the MSM had nothing.

 

[ZNP]

Focus on the things we know that are true.

Was the recent events in Russia a coup? We don't know that. But what we do know is the media was ablaze with it being a coup.

Did America pay this guy $6 billion to stage a coup? We don't know that. We simply know that he is a mercenary, that the US announced $6 billion "accounting error" causing an extra $6 billion to go to "Ukraine". Then this guy appears to stage a coup driving all the way to Moscow at which point he and Putin are totally good with each other and he now goes to Belarus, where Russia has staged nuclear weapons. We don't know that he did all this until the checks cleared, perhaps Putin is a reasonable guy that if you say you changed your mind about staging a coup he won't hold that against you.

But the big thing we know for sure is if the US did pay this guy $6 billion and he did play the US till the money was safely in his account, then Putin knows what the US did and we can be certain there will be an equal and opposite reaction coming from Russia on the US.

 

[iamsoandso]

From what I'm seeing from social media. It's the same old same old. On social media we see the same scenario playing out. Social media news is now 24 hours a day broadcasting fear. Russia is once again demonstrating how much power they have and not afraid to use measures of whatever means necessary, and how Putin is a man who means business.

NATO are also broadcasting how all these latest events are first or all about just Russian internal problems and how they are only there too help Ukraine, again emphasizing the need for further war.

And at the same time promoting a narrative that suggests they're the good guys who don't take sides.

Russians have broadcast that they don't think nato has caused this latest Rebellion.

Whikst NATO have responded by saying they don't think Russia are going to blow up the nuclear power plant in Ukraine.

on the other hand Russia are still holding the west responsible for the economical instability in their country and saying Russia has been forced to put themselves into a position to have no options to defend its country at whatever cost.

So on one hand we see both NATO and Russia emphasizing that they are not the type of country to take sides, but on the other hand, then directly accusing each other for going to war further.

All along this is broadcast on social media news 24 hours a day, once again being the center of attention, and once again fear coming to people in so many ways, where once again economical instability becomes a contributing factor in businessman all over the world, making business decisions causing more economical instability.

It seems to be a common factor in everywhere every war when there is a war there's always some economical instability, which suggests that there is a reason for that, one being economical instability gives the current dictators in power of any country more credibility to rule further, whilst more fear around the world is breeded

Your trying to rationalize out Soviet politics from a democratic western point of view. For instance if in the end there is an NEW Soviet Union there is no guarantee IT'S NEW LEADER will even be Russian(from Russia). It could be Putin but it could also be Prigozhin,Lukashenko or even if Ukraine is brought back into the S.U. Zelenskyy or an whole other host of possible leaders be the one chosen as it's leader. Anyway it doesn't seem important that Russia is not blaming NATO for the last three days to people in the west but in the East the question is how to re-form the USSR and be it's leader at the same time. Putin is walking a tight rope because he needs to make Prigozhin look like a back stabbing traitor while in reality the people were taking selfies with him when he was heading to Moscow because they see him as their hero and not Putin.

 

[iamsoandso]

Focus on the things we know that are true.

Was the recent events in Russia a coup? We don't know that. But what we do know is the media was ablaze with it being a coup.

Did America pay this guy $6 billion to stage a coup? We don't know that. We simply know that he is a mercenary, that the US announced $6 billion "accounting error" causing an extra $6 billion to go to "Ukraine". Then this guy appears to stage a coup driving all the way to Moscow at which point he and Putin are totally good with each other and he now goes to Belarus, where Russia has staged nuclear weapons. We don't know that he did all this until the checks cleared, perhaps Putin is a reasonable guy that if you say you changed your mind about staging a coup he won't hold that against you.

But the big thing we know for sure is if the US did pay this guy $6 billion and he did play the US till the money was safely in his account, then Putin knows what the US did and we can be certain there will be an equal and opposite reaction coming from Russia on the US.

Another thing,,,

In any war it is highly important to keep track of a division of troops as large as Wagner Group,,, where are they?,,Are they dividing and going to re-appear at multiple places on the front line? Where does Ukraine shift their troops to to react to this? Twenty five thousand solders is no laughing matter if they can disappear and then you loose track of where they might re-appear.