Where do you read the USA in that passage ? I dont see the words there are you adding your thoughts tot he Words of our Lord?
THE FULFILLMENT OF BABYLON THE GREAT, Part 1 of 2
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This will make you aware of the Antichrist spirit, but you have to subject your thoughts and the thoughts of others to the appropriate scriptures to test and see if they are from God or not.
We've been down this road before not too long ago. Wonder if it's the same guy.
Whatever it is you believe is the fulfillment of Babylon the great is not found written in Rev. 16-18 either. Understanding the fulfillment of the symbols Jesus gave to the prophets can only be given by Jesus. That is why I say the lack of a testimony should cause us the compare what we hear or think with the appropriate scriptures.
No where is the USA found in Scripture. The Scriptures testify to them selves.
No problem, I knew that. I just didn't want my own words to be misunderstood by anyone.
What don't you like? I said I didn't think anyone should put you on ignore.
Are you referring to "come out of her my people that you do not participate in her sins". You can see the meaning of the warning when you take into consideration the moral decline of Babylon the great pointed out in Rev 16-18.
Rev. 18:2 And he cried out with a mighty voice, saying, “ Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great! And she has become a dwelling place of demons and a prison of every unclean spirit, and a prison of every unclean and hateful bird. 3 “For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the passion of her immorality, and the kings of the earth have committed acts of immorality with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich by the wealth of her sensuality.”
I still think whatever this place is, that people need to leave it in bodily form, not just distance one's self spiritually from it. I read the punishment for Babylon the Great in Revelation 18 and it is physical destruction by fire.
Revelation 18:8
Therefore in one day her plagues will overtake her:
death, mourning and famine.
She will be consumed by fire,
for mighty is the Lord God who judges her.
It might be certain US cities. I looked up the ranking top financial centers of the world according to the Global Financial Centres Index. Out of the top 10 cities, 5 of them are in the US, with New York City being #1.
I have a sister whom I love very much and she lives in New York City. I've been telling her to prepare for the eventuality of moving out of there (even though she loves that city so much). I can't force her or plead with her (as with the rest of the family because they think they are all so smart) so it is all I can do to tell her to watch the signs herself (and a lot of quiet prayer on my part that she can't know about).
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I was referring in general to your post. Can you post a passage that says the USA is Babylon? The question could also be asked of England France Mexico ECT .
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You have like most of us posted your opinion . Nothing wrong with having an opinion we all do. You also strongly imply only your opinion is correct. Again implying only you have truly studied the topic. Time for me to go watch paint dry.
You have like most of us posted your opinion . Nothing wrong with having an opinion we all do. You also strongly imply only your opinion is correct. Again implying only you have truly studied the topic. Time for me to go watch paint dry.
Thank you I disagree. Its hard to talk when someone plays the "God card" as in God told me, Jesus told me". Please share how you tested this spirit? Now the enemy aka Satan can give us dreams and vision for I've had one wide awake yet two of us saw the same vison yet it was 100% not of God. So how did you test the spirits? I had another one not to long ago the short is at the end He said "I am the vine you are the branches". See we know this how? Its written. If its of God He always will back up what He says by His word. Based on what you shared what ever it was never once gave you scripture. Satan can show up as a angel of light say "GOD wants you to go here and do this". How would you know its not of God?
I had a dream my mom that has passed away just months before that. So in the dream she was in front of me and I said "ok if your my mom tell me we are washed by the BLOOD OF JESUS". It mumbled something and vanished.
So talking about Babylon does not even matter. One since many here have done a wonderful job already I don't want to step on that. About 2+thousand years ago and I LOVE THIS.. if someone said this back then they would ask you "Who are you? Who knows you? How long have you walked in what you preach/teach". Not over yet for then all would go pray for a very long time. Very wise huh yeah something that does not happen any more.
So confirmation. It was Sunday night we were just going to Church and said "Lord I know you called me but can you please tell me again for you said out of the mouth of two or three". We had been going to that Church for like 7 years and for the first time ever and never since that night 3 people came up to me saying things like "you know you should be in the ministry, you should be preacher" . So as for what you said... there are others in the USA known preachers that would hear this before us.
I had a dream my mom that has passed away just months before that. So in the dream she was in front of me and I said "ok if your my mom tell me we are washed by the BLOOD OF JESUS". It mumbled something and vanished.
So talking about Babylon does not even matter. One since many here have done a wonderful job already I don't want to step on that. About 2+thousand years ago and I LOVE THIS.. if someone said this back then they would ask you "Who are you? Who knows you? How long have you walked in what you preach/teach". Not over yet for then all would go pray for a very long time. Very wise huh yeah something that does not happen any more.
So confirmation. It was Sunday night we were just going to Church and said "Lord I know you called me but can you please tell me again for you said out of the mouth of two or three". We had been going to that Church for like 7 years and for the first time ever and never since that night 3 people came up to me saying things like "you know you should be in the ministry, you should be preacher" . So as for what you said... there are others in the USA known preachers that would hear this before us.
It is important that believers do what Jesus tells them to do. A believer asked Jesus how he was going to die and Jesus showed him in the upper floors of a building in California when an earthquake brings it down. He obviously won't hear Jesus telling him to leave California before this happens. I read a dream about NYC being flooded by a wave of water, which if I remember correctly will be caused by a meteorite landing in the Atlantic Ocean. I also read a dream in which a person saw a prophet leading believers out of NYC.
Rev. 18:4 is also saying that if you don't participate in their sins you won't receive their plagues.
Rev. 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, “ Come out of her, my people, that you may not participate in her sins and that you may not receive of her plagues;
Rev. 22:18 appears to be warning believers about adding to what is written in the Book of the Revelation.
Rev. 22:18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God shall add to him the plagues which are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book.
BABYLON THE GREAT is part of the mystery written on the woman's forehead that describes the country that fulfills the mystery. Therefore it should not be taken as the name of the place that is the fulfillment. Otherwise it would not be called a mystery. When you consider the fulfillment of any prophecy you have to take into consideration whether or not it fulfills all of the verses in the prophecy. Babylon of old is certainly not fulfilling any of the scriptures found in Rev. 16-18. As I said already Babylon the great is a symbol given to the prophets by Jesus and the fulfillment has to come from the One Who gave it.