problem related to praying in tongues

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JTB

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problem related to praying in tongues

Matthew 6:6
But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

Matt 26:36
Then Jesus came with them to a garden called Gethsemane, and he said to his disciples: "Sit down here while I go and pray yonder."

Source: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/search?q=pray+garden&translation=all

Praying like in Pentecostal / Charismatic Churches violates the teaching of Jesus above.
I believe what goes on in a lot of Charismatic / Pentecostal churches is precisely why Paul wrote 1 Corinthians 14 about proper place and time.
 

Fundaamental

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you really need to stop reading into what people say that they never did it is unbecoming of you. Also, I would caution you to stop talking about people denominations that you don't even know about or what does is members of. many disagree with your understanding. I have provided much biblical proof of the position I have taken.

Not once did I say anything you said was rejecting the truth or attacking your denomination. You have chosen to get personal because you clearly lack Biblical understanding on this topic. Before you get in trouble lets just ens it is ok and you can continue to believe what you like .
act 2 speaks of an experience of tounges, where as CORINTHIANS speaks of a simple understandings.

Which can't be fully explained in a short text.
Neither can the understanding of tounges in CORINTHIANS fully account for the experience of tounges in acts 2.

If you say that it does, then your choosing to believe what you like also.


you feeling threatened by me, is down to your own doing.

You challenged one of my understandings of speaking in tounges first,

It's your self who has become offended.

I haven't got a bad thing to say about tounges.

Nor whatever denomination you are.

You believe what you want
 

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act 2 speaks of an experience of tounges, where as CORINTHIANS speaks of a simple understandings.

Which can't be fully explained in a short text.
Neither can the understanding of tounges in CORINTHIANS fully account for the experience of tounges in acts 2.

If you say that it does, then your choosing to believe what you like also.


you feeling threatened by me, is down to your own doing.

You challenged one of my understandings of speaking in tounges first,

It's your self who has become offended.

I haven't got a bad thing to say about tounges.

Nor whatever denomination you are.

You believe what you want



Threatened LOL




 

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I believe what goes on in a lot of Charismatic / Pentecostal churches is precisely why Paul wrote 1 Corinthians 14 about proper place and time.

Correct, and it's up to the pastor to make sure things are being done in order. One of the reasons Benny Hinn was put out of the AOG.
 

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Which Denomination still believes in the 325 AD Creed?

None of them do, I belong to NO DENOMINATION!
You and I agree on quite a bit I think. Would you say though that it is sinful to belong to a denomination? I see many here who have chosen that path, I'm just wondering for the thousands of people who do attend a denomination, what do you think of them?
 

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Which Denomination still believes in the 325 AD Creed?

None of them do, I belong to NO DENOMINATION!
Are you talking about one God.

The creed I think your referring to is God being the father and Jesus being the son.

But Jesus being very much God of God.

And the holy spirit being very much God of God.

What Trinitarian nonsense are you equating to be relevant to this discussion.

And which denomination are you suggesting don't hold your view, of what ever that is.

Beside there's no such thing as a none denominational person.

That's a fantasy created in there heads.

A so-called none denomination Christians faith is based on the same 66 books as all denominations.

What your suggesting is a counteractive religious argument, which really is denomination to call your self none denominational, for this reasoning you suggest, is the mind of scapegoat that doesn't understand certain practices.
 

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Did I say the Father doesn't speak to us?

" The Father doesn't hear anyone who comes to him in the Authority of Christ.
Can you be a little more specific on what you're saying here? Are you talking about prayer?
 

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Raised in a Pentecostal denomination been around tongues for 76 years now . Seen the real and the fake the good and the bad and the gray. Can any give a good reason why the topic always goes to rudeness?
 

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Got to be from the adversary, those indwelt from above don't do this.:)
 

Fundaamental

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Theres no point in bringing denominations into this discussion

The gift of tounges is mainly all about the day of Pentecost, a very special day.

The gift of tounges is also about How Jesus gave us direct access to the father.

What many seem to be doing here is only associating the gift of tounges to drunkards or pedlars of Money making scams.

Or something that is just for unbelievers,

The friggin insults come flying in,.
 
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Are you talking about one God.

The creed I think your referring to is God being the father and Jesus being the son.

But Jesus being very much God of God.

And the holy spirit being very much God of God.

What Trinitarian nonsense are you equating to be relevant to this discussion.

And which denomination are you suggesting don't hold your view, of what ever that is.

Beside there's no such thing as a none denominational person.

That's a fantasy created in there heads.

A so-called none denomination Christians faith is based on the same 66 books as all denominations.

What your suggesting is a counteractive religious argument, which really is denomination to call your self none denominational, for this reasoning you suggest, is the mind of scapegoat that doesn't understand certain practices.
read this carefully, it is 100% FACT and CAN NEVER be proven WRONG:


what fascinates me is in the Old Testament, JESUS, told Moses He was Elohim, LORD, YHWH, MOST HIGH GOD, Yahweh = the WORD

and He also told Moses, He was [To Be], and this Name became so Sacred no Hebrew or Jew even mutters it. We know it means : TO BE our Sacrifice and SAVIOR + Messiah!

in the New Testament, to be a Blood Sacrifice and Role Model for how we should live as a Follower of God, JESUS, plays a SON!

Clearly, Jesus, at any time can be All these things because ultimately He is the WORD!
 
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so, since Jesus is actually not a SON, but the WORD, He can be Elohim, LORD, YHWH, MOST HIGH GOD, Yahweh ...because HE is THAT GOD!!
 

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read this carefully, it is 100% FACT and CAN NEVER be proven WRONG:


what fascinates me is in the Old Testament, JESUS, told Moses He was Elohim, LORD, YHWH, MOST HIGH GOD, Yahweh = the WORD

and He also told Moses, He was [To Be], and this Name became so Sacred no Hebrew or Jew even mutters it. We know it means : TO BE our Sacrifice and SAVIOR + Messiah!

in the New Testament, to be a Blood Sacrifice and Role Model for how we should live as a Follower of God, JESUS, plays a SON!

Clearly, Jesus, at any time can be All these things because ultimately He is the WORD!
very denominational if you ask me.

Yahweh is the name of the father.

Wait here come another religious argument where by you'll say I'm stoned with a gerbil up my what'sits speaking crap.

Honestly your denomination is self denomination.

Me me me
 
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Yahweh is the name of the father.
NO, who told you this crap?

that is JESUS!

2 God spoke to Moses, and He said to him, "I am the Lord. בוַיְדַבֵּ֥ר אֱלֹהִ֖ים אֶל־משֶׁ֑ה וַיֹּ֥אמֶר אֵלָ֖יו אֲנִ֥י יְהֹוָֽה:3I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob with [the name] Almighty God, but [with] My name YHWH, I did not become known to them. גוָֽאֵרָ֗א אֶל־אַבְרָהָ֛ם אֶל־יִצְחָ֥ק וְאֶל־יַֽעֲקֹ֖ב בְּאֵ֣ל שַׁדָּ֑י וּשְׁמִ֣י יְהֹוָ֔ה לֹ֥א נוֹדַ֖עְתִּי לָהֶֽם:
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that is JESUS, not the Father!
 
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NO, who told you this crap?

that is JESUS!

2 God spoke to Moses, and He said to him, "I am the Lord. בוַיְדַבֵּ֥ר אֱלֹהִ֖ים אֶל־משֶׁ֑ה וַיֹּ֥אמֶר אֵלָ֖יו אֲנִ֥י יְהֹוָֽה:3I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob with [the name] Almighty God, but [with] My name YHWH, I did not become known to them. גוָֽאֵרָ֗א אֶל־אַבְרָהָ֛ם אֶל־יִצְחָ֥ק וְאֶל־יַֽעֲקֹ֖ב בְּאֵ֣ל שַׁדָּ֑י וּשְׁמִ֣י יְהֹוָ֔ה לֹ֥א נוֹדַ֖עְתִּי לָהֶֽם:
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that is JESUS, not the Father!
you realize Jesus just said to MOSES, HE IS THE MOST HIGH GOD!

a SON, ain't the MOST HIGH GOD!