That scripture is the agenda you speak of Jesus is creating a garden and is why I am here.You, Paul, and Apollos. Right.
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What do you mean exactly by Jesus is creating a garden?
Think about the seeds Jesus says and how he references it to the kingdom. Seeds don't only procude crops they produce life in general if you were to liken the kingdom to a garden well the garden started from a single seed first and you just keep planting he grows it the fruits that come show his nature in every aspect just like a garden doees.
The amount of work to produce a garden like that requires more than one person this is why keep mentioning planting the seeds of the kingdom. he wants us to be a part of what he is doing but you reap what you sow.
It is going to happen it is only a matter of how long we have to get on board
I'll ask again. What do you mean by "Jesus is creating a garden?" Be specific, not abstract.
He is the VINE and we are the Branches.
only planted SEEDS can become the Branches.
i would say, planting a Vineyard over a Garden, but i believe it's meant to mean the same thing.
only planted SEEDS can become the Branches.
i would say, planting a Vineyard over a Garden, but i believe it's meant to mean the same thing.
i wonder if when these people finally do escape the Cults, and it was based on Jesus, if they still Follow Jesus, but in the a more true Biblical way?
David Berg was a Christian Missionary Alliance preacher until he got kicked out for sexual misconduct. Subsequently, he got involved in Latter Rain and with William Branham. The Children of God were a Latter Rain sect with sexual ingredients added to it by Berg. Berg's MO (Moses) Letters are filled with references to William Branham. The reason why so many shady characters ended up being associated with Latter Rain is because it would accept virtually anyone as a pastor, no questions asked.
Every one is going to die. Most people have some ailment of some sort. We are not alone.
Everything I have been saying that is coming that is Jesus himself at work he is the one with the game plan and like I said before this isn't a bus you want to miss and time is not our friend.
I get it now. The big revival. The one where we throw out out our Bibles and give the "Spirit" free reign. The coming of the new generation who are going to change everything. That's your garden. Good to see some things never change.
Ya know, you may be right; but trust me, it won't go down without a fight. And you're right, that's one fight I wouldn't miss for anything.
Ever hear about "aftercare" very often?
It's something that I tend to think about from time to time.
When any group asks, encourages, or allows for self-sacrifice there needs to be some sort of aftercare.
For example, former missionaries coming home after long service periods usually need some sort of aftercare for themselves and their children. The Dads need careers, the moms some assistance with fitting in...just like the kids need help fitting in with other kids.
There usually is no program set up to do any of this. I know that one church in my past had a house which was offered up for former missionary families....and a camp that used widows of pastors and missionaries to staff the huge complex. (Fairly easy and simple tasks...not difficult stuff) But these were the only ones I had ever heard of.
The military has the VA and veterans benefits and groups....
Just saying.....
Seems like we should be doing more.
And then there's post missions depression. Many people who go on a two week mission trip usually experience some level of depression afterwards....no counseling is ever offered and I've been on many.
It isn't my garden and no that isn't the garden. though that is part of what he is doing.
The garden is about the reason for planting the seeds. He wants us to plant the seeds, why? he likens it to the kingdom what is the kingdom?
To understand the planting and the garden we have to understand first what the kingdom is we speak of the kingdom but the kingdom is a people a place with God a state of being.
And yeah it won't happen without a fightbut this is why we have to get dead serious now because this is not an ordianry battle we cannot do it without being fully submersed in him completely it isn't going to be the same as rebuking some demons it is an all out war.
where i ended up in Indiana before eventually venturing out West, we had one of the biggest cults ever formed.
the ironic thing was my Grandfather, was paid to teach Hebrew, to come hold Revival, to explain the Bible. Everyone revered my Grandfather. People even would come from out of State to have my Grandfather pray for them or to see him Preach/Teach. The majority core of of Protestant Denominations would have my Grandfather come teach the Hebrew from Methodist, Baptist, Wesleyan, Pentecostal, Independent, etc, so people knew and believed my Grandfather was a real Man of God.
well, my Grandfather had 8 Children and the oldest son, my Uncle David, was like ice and fire combination and he and my grandfather just didn't get along. My Grandfather even told him, in front of all, Family Reunion, he isn't going to Hell for my Uncle to allow him to push these ideas he wanted to upon the family.
anyway, big split.
years later, here the Uncle and his family show up for a Reunion.
they were seriously changed.
then they started talking about their Faith.
GLORY BARN, the BARN!
you can look them up.
just to point something out.
one of the Uncle's Twin Daughter's, now married with her own children, had one that was extremely ill [eventually died] at the Reunion. many were like get that baby to a hospital.
but, the mom, my cousin, was following the direction of Faith according to her Demonic Glory Barn Theology.
anyways, everyone was like let Grandpa pray for that baby!!
she said, he ain't a man of God and would only cause the demons inside him to enter her baby.
the chick was complete nuts!
anyway, research these MORONS:
UPI ARCHIVES
MAY 2, 1983
At least 52 people have died for lack of...
By DENNIS O'SHEA
WARSAW, Ind. -- At least 52 people have died for lack of medical care because they or their parents belonged to a fundamentalist church that insists only faith in God will heal them, but a coroner said Monday the church is beyond the reach of state law.
The 52 victims were linked to the Faith Assembly, a 10-year-old church based in Wilmot, Ind., and headed by the Rev. Hobart Freeman. It has about 2,000 members.
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Hobart_Freeman
The barn was owned by a burly, whiskery biker, Melvin Greider nicknamed Mack, a former alcoholic who had become a Christian, and was named the "Glory Barn" ...
Died: December 8, 1984 (aged 64); Shoe Lake ...
Born: October 17, 1920; Ewing, Kentucky
Teaching and preaching · Controversy · Legacy · Publications
At least 52 people have died for lack of...
United Press International
https://www.upi.com › Archives › 1983/05/02 › At-le...
May 2, 1983 — Eastlund said many of the estimated 2,000 members of the church, who worship in a rural building also known as the 'Glory Barn,' are highly ...
the ironic thing was my Grandfather, was paid to teach Hebrew, to come hold Revival, to explain the Bible. Everyone revered my Grandfather. People even would come from out of State to have my Grandfather pray for them or to see him Preach/Teach. The majority core of of Protestant Denominations would have my Grandfather come teach the Hebrew from Methodist, Baptist, Wesleyan, Pentecostal, Independent, etc, so people knew and believed my Grandfather was a real Man of God.
well, my Grandfather had 8 Children and the oldest son, my Uncle David, was like ice and fire combination and he and my grandfather just didn't get along. My Grandfather even told him, in front of all, Family Reunion, he isn't going to Hell for my Uncle to allow him to push these ideas he wanted to upon the family.
anyway, big split.
years later, here the Uncle and his family show up for a Reunion.
they were seriously changed.
then they started talking about their Faith.
GLORY BARN, the BARN!
you can look them up.
just to point something out.
one of the Uncle's Twin Daughter's, now married with her own children, had one that was extremely ill [eventually died] at the Reunion. many were like get that baby to a hospital.
but, the mom, my cousin, was following the direction of Faith according to her Demonic Glory Barn Theology.
anyways, everyone was like let Grandpa pray for that baby!!
she said, he ain't a man of God and would only cause the demons inside him to enter her baby.
the chick was complete nuts!
anyway, research these MORONS:
UPI ARCHIVES
MAY 2, 1983
At least 52 people have died for lack of...
By DENNIS O'SHEA
WARSAW, Ind. -- At least 52 people have died for lack of medical care because they or their parents belonged to a fundamentalist church that insists only faith in God will heal them, but a coroner said Monday the church is beyond the reach of state law.
The 52 victims were linked to the Faith Assembly, a 10-year-old church based in Wilmot, Ind., and headed by the Rev. Hobart Freeman. It has about 2,000 members.
Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Hobart_Freeman
The barn was owned by a burly, whiskery biker, Melvin Greider nicknamed Mack, a former alcoholic who had become a Christian, and was named the "Glory Barn" ...
Died: December 8, 1984 (aged 64); Shoe Lake ...
Born: October 17, 1920; Ewing, Kentucky
Teaching and preaching · Controversy · Legacy · Publications
Faith Assembly Church of Wilmot, Indiana
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Faith_Assembly_Chu...
They called their church building a "glory barn". During the 1980s they had 2,000 members. The church emphasized divine healing and taught that medicine was ...
At least 52 people have died for lack of...
United Press International
https://www.upi.com › Archives › 1983/05/02 › At-le...
May 2, 1983 — Eastlund said many of the estimated 2,000 members of the church, who worship in a rural building also known as the 'Glory Barn,' are highly ...
You know something that doesn't make sense to me is that people want to experience and recieve the supernatural or seek a place of belonging but in every direction except for the true one. Going into other cults witccraft new age spiritualism but God is the one they are looking for anything they find won't be the real thing.
But then again it makes sense all these things go for our itching ears God demands change and abidding by his ways