Did man land on the moon?

[Gideon300]

Who says they're Born Again?

An analysis of the beliefs, or religions, of the Astronauts from the !960s - 1970s, when we supposedly went to the moon, show that an absurd amount of the most prominent, either were, or had strong ties to Freemasonry. Which if you didn't know, are in effect Luciferians.
Astronauts identified as Freemasons These include:

• John Glenn, Jr., 33°
• Col. “Buzz” Aldrin
• Col. Leroy “Gordo” Gordon Cooper, Jr., 33°
• Donn F. Eisele
• Virgil “Gus” Grissom

In addition, NASA astronauts Neil Armstrong, Allen Sheppard, William Pogue, Vance Brand, and Anthony England all had fathers who were Freemasons2.


I mean this is an almost unbelievable assertion.

In this thread alone, there has been a mountain of what I would consider conclusive proof.

Here's just ONE of the videos and proof from this thread I don't see how anyone can deny

You can stick your conspiracy theories. My father was a Rosicrucian (look it up), my mother into the occult. I am born again. There is more evidence that man walked on the moon than Jesus walked the earth.

 

[Gideon300]

Yeah, they have professional photographers giving a testimony, that the pictures are fake. The photographers don't want to say, the moon landing is fake, but they say, the pictures don't make sense.

NASA did the best moon landing simulation they could, to save face for the United States government. It fooled most people and continue to do so. Nixon was the president during the moon landings and he was the only U.S. President to resign from office.

How can you be so ignorant? Kennedy started the Lunar program. It had nothing to do with Nixon. He just kept the money flowing. Nixon was also President during the Vietnam war. Was the Vietnam war fake? Try taking some lessons in logical thinking.

 

[PennEd]

You can stick your conspiracy theories. My father was a Rosicrucian (look it up), my mother into the occult. I am born again. There is more evidence that man walked on the moon than Jesus walked the earth.

The conspiracy theory is that they walked on the moon.
Quite frankly, I find those that have either seen the mountains of evidence, or those that refuse to even give it a fair hearing, to be pretty ignorant.

You would’ve thought you learned your lesson after being so utterly wrong on the Covid scam and lethal injection.

But I have honestly felt that people would rather be wrong than to admit they were wrong.

 

[wolfwint]

Who says they're Born Again?

An analysis of the beliefs, or religions, of the Astronauts from the !960s - 1970s, when we supposedly went to the moon, show that an absurd amount of the most prominent, either were, or had strong ties to Freemasonry. Which if you didn't know, are in effect Luciferians.
Astronauts identified as Freemasons These include:

• John Glenn, Jr., 33°
• Col. “Buzz” Aldrin
• Col. Leroy “Gordo” Gordon Cooper, Jr., 33°
• Donn F. Eisele
• Virgil “Gus” Grissom

In addition, NASA astronauts Neil Armstrong, Allen Sheppard, William Pogue, Vance Brand, and Anthony England all had fathers who were Freemasons2.


I mean this is an almost unbelievable assertion.

In this thread alone, there has been a mountain of what I would consider conclusive proof.

Here's just ONE of the videos and proof from this thread I don't see how anyone can deny

So who is right?

I have no doubt, that the astronauts where 1969 the first people on moon.
When the russians could land in 1966 on moon with Luna 9. Why the americans should not could land on moon with persons in 1969?
The russians want be first of moon. They failed. They never doubt that the americans where on moon.

To create conspiracy theorys in Internet or with other Medias is a nice way to get money and sewing doubtions in everything.
Dangerous!!!

 

[Gojira]

This sickens me. I don't accept that Christians can slander other believers who risked their lives on probably the greatest venture ever. Those Christians gave God the glory. They testified to the wonder of God's creation. $5,000 to lie? How absurd can you get?

There is more evidence that those men walked on the moon than there is that Jesus walked on the earth.

Don't let these type fret you. Racerunner, the young Moses, etc etc etc... would not believe if they landed on the moon themselves.

This is a big flaw in humans. We believe what we want to believe.

 

[ZNP]

You can stick your conspiracy theories. My father was a Rosicrucian (look it up), my mother into the occult. I am born again. There is more evidence that man walked on the moon than Jesus walked the earth.

I just watched the video that Penned posted because I wanted to understand why they had an issue with this.

I thought there were several valid issues raised. NASA's own footage appears to show the flag flapping around in the wind. You would think a picture of the Earth from the moon would be filled with stars. In fact if it were filled with stars we would be able to confirm if the picture was taken from the moon. You can get satellites in low earth orbit to take pictures of the earth and then photoshop them to appear to be taken from the moon, but the stars would prove they were photoshopped. That to me proves beyond any doubt that the pictures of the earth have been photoshopped, either they removed all stars for some reason or the pictures are fake and they didn't want the proof in the photos.

At the very least you would think that NASA would respond to these questions as they are valid. Obviously NASA erased all the stars, so why did they do that? I suppose that by blacking out the stars it makes the Earth pop out even more. Fine, then show us the original picture with the stars so we can confirm it was taken from the moon while selling your "Earth rise" picture.

As for the problem with the radiation I have always wondered about that. It always amazed me that those flimsy aluminum foil like stuff on the capsule would protect them, much less the spacesuits. I'm glad there are scientists raising the same question why the rest of us need 4-6 inches of lead to protect us they only need a layer of mylar.

 

[Billyd]

The Van Allen Belts and the Apollo astronauts.

https://www.space.com/33948-van-allen-radiation-belts.html

In the 1960s, several Apollo crews went through the Van Allen belts on their way to and from the moon. Their time in that radiation-intensive region, however, was very short, in part because the trajectory was designed to pass through the thinnest known parts.

I was there. The landings really happened.

 

[Billyd]

The total radiation experienced by Apollo astronauts to and from the moon was (according to their personal dosimeters) was a whopping 2 rads.

Here's the math.

https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/files/SMIII_Problem7.pdf

 

[Billyd]

Other conspiracies debunked.

https://www.iop.org/explore-physics/moon/how-do-we-know-we-went-to-the-moon

It really happened.

 

[ZNP]

The total radiation experienced by Apollo astronauts to and from the moon was (according to their personal dosimeters) was a whopping 2 rads.

Here's the math.

https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/files/SMIII_Problem7.pdf

A single chest Xray exposes you to about 0.1 mSv

It is estimated that the astronauts were exposed to 60 mSv every hour they were on the moon and they were on the moon about 21-22 hours. That is over 1,200 mSv, or equivalent to getting 12,000 chest Xrays in one day. Or one chest X ray every 6 seconds they were on the moon.

The entire flight was over a week. One would think the radiation would be much higher in space (just as it is much higher for airline pilots flying at 30,000 feet)

 

[ZNP]

Apollo 11 was 195 hours, 18 minutes and 35 seconds.

It took 12 minutes to leave Earth's atmosphere and enter into orbit around the earth. When it reentered Earth's atmosphere it was traveling at 24,000 mph, so I expect the trip down was significantly shorter. 'Therefore they spent close to 195 hours without any protection from earth's atmosphere from radiation. That is probably over 10,000 mSv, or the equivalent of 1,000 years of radiation for an airline pilot.

1,000 mSv is considered a dangerous dose that would cause nausea, vomiting, and hemorrhaging. 10,000 mSv is deadly within weeks.

 

[Billyd]

A single chest Xray exposes you to about 0.1 mSv

It is estimated that the astronauts were exposed to 60 mSv every hour they were on the moon and they were on the moon about 21-22 hours. That is over 1,200 mSv, or equivalent to getting 12,000 chest Xrays in one day.

They wore dosimeters. Two rads for the entire trip.

 

[kinda]

The conspiracy theory is that they walked on the moon.
Quite frankly, I find those that have either seen the mountains of evidence, or those that refuse to even give it a fair hearing, to be pretty ignorant.

You would’ve thought you learned your lesson after being so utterly wrong on the Covid scam and lethal injection.

But I have honestly felt that people would rather be wrong than to admit they were wrong.

Seems the mainstream view is the most radical in their views, they seem hardly willing to have a conversation. It's more you belief this, so this. Or we are so right and your so wrong.

I see it as their is no open communication with NASA believers, same goes with the Heliocentric model. Their mind is set and nothing will ever change it. lol

Let me try this self confidence stuff....Van Allen Radiation Belts equals moon landing never happened.

 

[ZNP]

They wore dosimeters. Two rads for the entire trip.

Yes, I get that, so how do you explain the discrepancy? It seems like a valid question that they should be able to address

 

[Gideon300]

I just watched the video that Penned posted because I wanted to understand why they had an issue with this.

I thought there were several valid issues raised. NASA's own footage appears to show the flag flapping around in the wind. You would think a picture of the Earth from the moon would be filled with stars. In fact if it were filled with stars we would be able to confirm if the picture was taken from the moon. You can get satellites in low earth orbit to take pictures of the earth and then photoshop them to appear to be taken from the moon, but the stars would prove they were photoshopped. That to me proves beyond any doubt that the pictures of the earth have been photoshopped, either they removed all stars for some reason or the pictures are fake and they didn't want the proof in the photos.

At the very least you would think that NASA would respond to these questions as they are valid. Obviously NASA erased all the stars, so why did they do that? I suppose that by blacking out the stars it makes the Earth pop out even more. Fine, then show us the original picture with the stars so we can confirm it was taken from the moon while selling your "Earth rise" picture.

As for the problem with the radiation I have always wondered about that. It always amazed me that those flimsy aluminum foil like stuff on the capsule would protect them, much less the spacesuits. I'm glad there are scientists raising the same question why the rest of us need 4-6 inches of lead to protect us they only need a layer of mylar.

Every one of those tired old arguments have been thoroughly debunked.

Just one example. Radiation. Use your brain, that's why God gave it to you. You are subject to the same radiation every time you stick your head out the door. You are protected to a degree by the ozone layer. Where the ozone layer is thin, like where I live, you can get fried in 15 minutes in the midday sun. Mylar will protect from solar radiation.

The clowns who push this radiation idea are conflating nuclear and solar radiation. They are not the same thing, or the whole of creation would be dead by now. Scientists? I have another term for them, not suitable for stating on this forum.

 

[ZNP]

Every one of those tired old arguments have been thoroughly debunked.

Just one example. Radiation. Use your brain, that's why God gave it to you. You are subject to the same radiation every time you stick your head out the door. You are protected to a degree by the ozone layer. Where the ozone layer is thin, like where I live, you can get fried in 15 minutes in the midday sun. Mylar will protect from solar radiation.

The clowns who push this radiation idea are conflating nuclear and solar radiation. They are not the same thing, or the whole of creation would be dead by now. Scientists? I have another term for them, not suitable for stating on this forum.

We are not fried by the Sun because we have 100 miles of atmosphere protecting us.

Airline pilots get twice as much radiation as the average person and over time it has a very clear impact on their health. But they get 10 mSv a year. Peanuts compared to what the astronauts would have gotten over an 8 day trip to the moon.

 

[Gideon300]

We are not fried by the Sun because we have 100 miles of atmosphere protecting us.

Airline pilots get twice as much radiation as the average person and over time it has a very clear impact on their health. But they get 10 mSv a year. Peanuts compared to what the astronauts would have gotten over an 8 day trip to the moon.

Not when they are suitably protected by appropriate suits. If you spent 24 hours a day for 8 days in bright sunlight, you would be fried like a bug. Airline pilots should wear mylar suits, obviously.

"Clear impact on health"? The research I've looked at says there is none. They do recommend that pregnant flight crew should be careful in the first 3 months of pregnancy.

 

[ZNP]

Not when they are suitably protected by appropriate suits. If you spent 24 hours a day for 8 days in bright sunlight, you would be fried like a bug. Airline pilots should wear mylar suits, obviously.

"Clear impact on health"? The research I've looked at says there is none. They do recommend that pregnant flight crew should be careful in the first 3 months of pregnancy.

"Studies have shown that pilots and flight attendants are at higher risk for skin cancer. According to a study in JAMA Dermatology, published by the American Medical Association, flight crews have twice the incidence of melanoma compared with the general population."

The not-so-friendly skies? Why pilots and flight attendants have a higher risk of skin cancer

https://utswmed.org/medblog/not-so-friendly-skies-why-pilots-and-flight-attendants-have-higher-risk-skin-cancer/#:~:text=Studies have shown that pilots,compared with the general population.

They are surrounded by an airplane and you think mylar will protect them?

I do not see any evidence that mylar is recommended to shield you from radiation. We use lead to protect us. And a simple search just came back with products made from lead as a shield.

 

[PennEd]

Not when they are suitably protected by appropriate suits.

LOL!!!

There is video of several NASA astronauts recently saying they have to solve the radiation problem BEFORE they can leave Earth's lower orbit. And that's in a spaceship!

Now you're saying 54 yrs ago, guys hopping around the moon wearing a couple of millimeters of mylar, protected them for hrs from direct, unfiltered radiation!?

And WE'RE the conspiracy theorists?! LOL

 

[Moses_Young]

Don't let these type fret you. Racerunner, the young Moses, etc etc etc... would not believe if they landed on the moon themselves.

This is a big flaw in humans. We believe what we want to believe.

Not at all. If man really had landed on the moon, I'd be all for publishing it. Especially if that man were myself. Just because some people or most people believe what they want to believe doesn't mean that all of us do. If I believed what I wanted to believe, I would believe the world is a happy place where everybody - especially governments - tell the truth. But I know this is simply not true - believing the truth makes life more difficult.

For starters, shills wouldn't get the threads I post in closed down 'cause too much truth is getting out, or accuse me of "slandering" "fellow born-again Christians" because they sadly can't explain the lies and inconsistencies associated with their preposterous claims.