Have the Mind of Christ.

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Ramon

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You know. Jesus is so awesome. I will be simply thinking about him, and something about his character, or something, and I will receive just what I ask. And this came, so I will not have to say it:

5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

14 Do all things without murmurings and disputings:
15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;
16 Holding forth the word of life; that I may rejoice in the day of Christ, that I have not run in vain, neither laboured in vain.
17 Yea, and if I be offered upon the sacrifice and service of your faith, I joy, and rejoice with you all.
18 For the same cause also do ye joy, and rejoice with me.
19 But I trust in the Lord Jesus to send Timotheus shortly unto you, that I also may be of good comfort, when I know your state.

20 For I have no man likeminded, who will naturally care for your state.
21 For all seek their own, not the things which are Jesus Christ's.
22 But ye know the proof of him, that, as a son with the father, he hath served with me in the gospel.
Philippians 2

I can say that I have seen some likeminded who will surely care for your state.

May Jesus bless you.

HALLELUJAH!! THE HOLY SPIRIT DOES SPEAK THROUGH US!!! TO THE GLORY OF THE SON!!! THIS I CONFIRMATION!! AMEN!
 
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Amen !

Thankyou and God Bless.
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Philippians 2:4-5
(4) Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.
(5) Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
 
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We have the mind of Christ.

It is the Holy Spirit.

thank you Ramon.
In the love of Jesus,
 
Red33

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VW said:
We have the mind of Christ.

It is the Holy Spirit.

thank you Ramon.
In the love of Jesus,
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How does that mind function toward the church and body of Christ and every member of it? If you start with God's immutability, you have (Jer 29:11), where God said that His thoughts towards us are thoughts of peace and NOT EVIL, to give us and expected end. Then in (Ps 139:17), 'How precious are thy thoughts unto me, Oh God how great is the sum of them'. In (Is 55:9), 'For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.'

These are a few of the scriptures that testify of God's thoughts toward those that belong to Him. What is the mind of Christ toward the church. PICKLES, what is the mind of Christ toward the church and body of Christ? RAMON, what are the thoughts that Christ has toward the church that are thoughts of peace and not evil to give them an expected end? What are thoughts that we are to be occupied with in the will of God according to (Phil 4:8,9)? We are told in the scriptures not to mind high things but to condescend to men of low estate (Rom 12:16).

What about (Titus 1:15)... Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

How many believers have had their mind and conscience defiled against the church and do not have the mind of Christ who is the head of the church, whose thoughts are thoughts of peace and not evil to give the church an expected end which is to be presented without spot or blemish as the bride of Christ? You would think by the way some speak of the church, that Christ is not going to be able to present the bride this way to Himself (Eph 5:27).

Do we have the same thoughts toward the church and bride as our Lord Jesus Christ, as a glorious church, having not spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that it should be holy and without blemish? It that how we are operating in the thoughts of our mind toward the church? If not, then we do not have the mind of Christ nor are we functioning with Christ's thoughts and neither can we be filled or be walking in the Spirit of Christ. Some of you won't like this, but that's tough. As a famous poet once said, 'Tough titty said the kitty when the milk went dry'. Don't let the milk of God's thoughts and words run dry, go back to the word and love the word and get built up in the word and stop living in your own preconceived understanding of what you think about the church in the vanity of your own mind.
 
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Red33 said:
How does that mind function toward the church and body of Christ and every member of it? If you start with God's immutability, you have (Jer 29:11), where God said that His thoughts towards us are thoughts of peace and NOT EVIL, to give us and expected end. Then in (Ps 139:17), 'How precious are thy thoughts unto me, Oh God how great is the sum of them'. In (Is 55:9), 'For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.'

These are a few of the scriptures that testify of God's thoughts toward those that belong to Him. What is the mind of Christ toward the church. PICKLES, what is the mind of Christ toward the church and body of Christ? RAMON, what are the thoughts that Christ has toward the church that are thoughts of peace and not evil to give them an expected end? What are thoughts that we are to be occupied with in the will of God according to (Phil 4:8,9)? We are told in the scriptures not to mind high things but to condescend to men of low estate (Rom 12:16).

What about (Titus 1:15)... Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

How many believers have had their mind and conscience defiled against the church and do not have the mind of Christ who is the head of the church, whose thoughts are thoughts of peace and not evil to give the church an expected end which is to be presented without spot or blemish as the bride of Christ? You would think by the way some speak of the church, that Christ is not going to be able to present the bride this way to Himself (Eph 5:27).

Do we have the same thoughts toward the church and bride as our Lord Jesus Christ, as a glorious church, having not spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that it should be holy and without blemish? It that how we are operating in the thoughts of our mind toward the church? If not, then we do not have the mind of Christ nor are we functioning with Christ's thoughts and neither can we be filled or be walking in the Spirit of Christ. Some of you won't like this, but that's tough. As a famous poet once said, 'Tough titty said the kitty when the milk went dry'. Don't let the milk of God's thoughts and words run dry, go back to the word and love the word and get built up in the word and stop living in your own preconceived understanding of what you think about the church in the vanity of your own mind.
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You cannot judge the mind of Christ. It is. You cannot say what that mind is, nor what it will think.

How does Jesus think about the bride? Ask Him.

You have taken this passage and turned it into uselessness. Do you imagine that the church is with spot or blemish? If she does have a spot or a blemish, do you imagine that Jesus would not tell her?

That says nothing about her listening to Him.

Seems that she cannot hear Him anymore.
 
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It is so difficult for some of you to handle sound doctrine, you would rather ignore it then face the light of it, because the light would make manifest the hidden counsels of the heart (1Cor 4:5).
 
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VW said:
You cannot judge the mind of Christ. It is. You cannot say what that mind is, nor what it will think.

How does Jesus think about the bride? Ask Him.

You have taken this passage and turned it into uselessness. Do you imagine that the church is with spot or blemish? If she does have a spot or a blemish, do you imagine that Jesus would not tell her?

That says nothing about her listening to Him.

Seems that she cannot hear Him anymore.
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Christ sees the church that He has redeemed with His own blood differently then you do. In His eyes she is perfect and He is making her to become, in her experience, what he has already made her to be. That goes against your negativity and prophecies of judgment against the church. Right now, Christ sees His bride without spot or blemish and there is nothing you can do to change that with your prophecies or your understanding.
 
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Red33 said:
Christ sees the church that He has redeemed with His own blood differently then you do. In His eyes she is perfect and He is making her to become, in her experience, what he has already made her to be. That goes against your negativity and prophecies of judgment against the church. Right now, Christ sees His bride without spot or blemish and there is nothing you can do to change that with your prophecies or your understanding.
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Did you go back and read the new testament like I suggested? Paying particular attention to the places where we are warned about sin?

Your doctrine is incorrect. It is even misleading.

In every great house there are many vessels. Some are of gold, some of silver, some of clay and some even of worse things. If any man cleanses his vessel, then he makes himself useful to his Master. And again, it does not as yet appear what we shall be, but when we see Him, we shall become just as He is. And everyone who has this hope fixed on Him, purifies himself even as He is pure.

It is something we must seek, above all things. You do not seek because you have tricked yourself into believing that you have already arrived.

Not only is this not sound doctrine, it is a disaster of epic proportions. And it is the way that much of the church believes.

I reject your doctrine, as being not only completely false, but as being a destructive heresy.
 
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VW said:
Did you go back and read the new testament like I suggested? Paying particular attention to the places where we are warned about sin?

Your doctrine is incorrect. It is even misleading.

In every great house there are many vessels. Some are of gold, some of silver, some of clay and some even of worse things. If any man cleanses his vessel, then he makes himself useful to his Master. And again, it does not as yet appear what we shall be, but when we see Him, we shall become just as He is. And everyone who has this hope fixed on Him, purifies himself even as He is pure.

It is something we must seek, above all things. You do not seek because you have tricked yourself into believing that you have already arrived.

Not only is this not sound doctrine, it is a disaster of epic proportions. And it is the way that much of the church believes.

I reject your doctrine, as being not only completely false, but as being a destructive heresy.
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Maybe if you had been built up in Christ and edified by grace through the love of God when you were a babe, you would not be so negative and have this strange understanding that you have. Some day I'll give it to you full force without holding back and then you will really blow a gasket. You are a wounded believer and you are taking it out on the church and on anyone that embraces the grace of God through the finished work. I don't think that you can even repent from that.
 
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Red33 said:
Maybe if you had been built up in Christ and edified by grace through the love of God when you were a babe, you would not be so negative and have this strange understanding that you have. Some day I'll give it to you full force without holding back and then you will really blow a gasket. You are a wounded believer and you are taking it out on the church and on anyone that embraces the grace of God through the finished work. I don't think that you can even repent from that.
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You are falling back on your same old chant.

I am not wounded. I have already had my mind blown, actually I was undone completely.

You have no idea of the love of God that I have received.

You call me negative. What you do not know is that I am more forgiving and positive than you can understand now. I am not taking anything out on anyone. I am just telling the truth in love. Your doctrines are false, and they have blinded you to the truth of Jesus Christ.

It will make you die when you do see.
 
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:) Hi Ramon :) glad you are still keeping your eyes focused on Jesus and seeing the beauty in the souls of everyone around you :) God bless :)

 
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