Are WOMEN Pastors Biblical??

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cv5

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Conjoined? Odd choice of words.
I though it most apropos.....beautifully nuanced in fact......

Same goes for irreducibly. Sums up the force of thought and imagery intended tidily.
 

cv5

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That it ‘ties in’ with all of Scripture is not being argued. That it says that women cannot be pastors is certainly not clear.
It is to me. Definitely.

Tell me.....what is the relationship between Christ and His Bride? That is the relational hierarchy that Paul is referring to. Ultimately. Obviously.
 

Dino246

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It is to me. Definitely.

Tell me.....what is the relationship between Christ and His Bride? That is the relational hierarchy that Paul is referring to. Ultimately. Obviously.
I disagree completely. However, I have had a very full day and don’t have the energy to discuss it at length.
 

Edify

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People can be so double-minded & hypocritical.
I remember this subject came up before & many said that women could pastor IF there was no one else to do it.
Now with churches everywhere without pastors, many of those same people say no.
It's no wonder God is judging His church when His people disqualify over half of His ministers from preaching & teaching.
 

ResidentAlien

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It's no wonder God is judging His church when His people disqualify over half of His ministers from preaching & teaching.
God's judgment on the "churches" is manifested in the proliferation of women pastors.
 

ResidentAlien

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There is no rapid increase of women pastors. There's only a small percentage of them.
Maybe so, I don't know. But it's undeniable that it's a growing trend and shows no sign of letting up. That aside, there shouldn't be any.
 

ResidentAlien

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When I think of women pastors I include women who co-pastor with their husbands. When these are included, the number is a lot higher.
 

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Combining 2017 figures from the American Baptist Churches USA, the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), the Episcopal Church, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), the United Church of Christ, and the United Methodist Church, the study found women made up 32 percent of total clergy.
 

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Maybe so, I don't know. But it's undeniable that it's a growing trend and shows no sign of letting up. That aside, there shouldn't be any.
Because you said so?
Pray & study the scripture. There's new things you need to learn.
 

ResidentAlien

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Combining 2017 figures from the American Baptist Churches USA, the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), the Episcopal Church, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), the United Church of Christ, and the United Methodist Church, the study found women made up 32 percent of total clergy.
And this doesn't include the non-denominational churches which are growing faster than any of the rest.
 

Mem

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How is the venture of the church's sterilization coming along? Are we using disinfectant? or scalpels?
 

Beckie

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The Scriptures are very patriarchal . His Word is to be respected as such.
 

Mem

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I wonder how many camels the average woman would be able to handle watering these days.
 

Nehemiah6

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Combining 2017 figures from the American Baptist Churches USA, the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ), the Episcopal Church, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.), the United Church of Christ, and the United Methodist Church, the study found women made up 32 percent of total clergy.
And what you have listed are the apostate churches who have rejected the Word of God and substituted their own false beliefs into their churches (including women pastors).
 

Karlon

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NO! 1st Timothy 2:11,12. women are to learn in silence with all subjection. women teaching women & children are proper. remember, God created man 1st. it was always His intention for man to lead women. God is the head of Jesus, Jesus head of man, man head of woman.
 

Beckie

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NO! 1st Timothy 2:11,12. women are to learn in silence with all subjection. women teaching women & children are proper. remember, God created man 1st. it was always His intention for man to lead women. God is the head of Jesus, Jesus head of man, man head of woman.
Where are the scriptures that speak of women teaching children?
 

cv5

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I disagree completely. However, I have had a very full day and don’t have the energy to discuss it at length.
Here you go buddy. Conjoined indeed.....:unsure:

Eph 5:31
For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.

Eph 5:32
This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

Eph 5:33
Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.
 

Dino246

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God is the head of Jesus, Jesus head of man, man head of woman.
Misquoting Scripture is never a good idea; it inevitably leads to wrong beliefs. What Paul wrote is this:

“But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭11‬:‭3‬ ‭NIV‬‬

Note the order and the fact that Paul uses singular specific articles (the man, the woman). The only context where that is always relevant is within marriage.