Can we use microwave on Sabbath day??

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Magenta

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Jesus said:

Matthew 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

Mark 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

Luke_10:27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

Romans 13:10
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Magenta

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Are you sure you can place Paul's teachings above Christ's?
Can you prove I do so?

You on the other hand seem to want to ignore both.

Jesus instituted a NEW Covenant. He said so Himself.

By speaking of a new covenant, He has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.
 

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op: keep sabbath by turning microwave off?
no such idea for the Body Of Christ in God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided:

In God's Context Of prophecy / Covenants / law, the sabbath is a "sign"
between God and Israel

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ” (online)

In God's Other Context Of Mystery / Grace, there is no sabbath 'sign', but,
there is this from God's Simple Will!:

(2a) Christ Living In us, To Fulfil:
All Of His Law, In "One Word: Love thy neighbor as thyself!"​
= NO 'sabbath-keeping' in there, Correct?
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This:

Col 2:16 "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in​
respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath"​

Amen.
 

Grace911

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Can you prove I do so?

You on the other hand seem to want to ignore both.

Jesus instituted a NEW Covenant. He said so Himself.

By speaking of a new covenant, He has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.
NEW COVENANT is for THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AND THE HOUSE OF JUDAH. So are you a Gentile or you an Israelite?

An Israelite understands the wisdom of not making the LORD or Yeshua into a SINNER. How may you ask that the LORD or Yeshua are become sinners?

#1) The LORD and Yeshua never changed. They are the same from the beginning to the end. The LORD and Yeshua both say they are the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last.

Isaiah 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer (H1360-next of kin) the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

#2) On the fourth day of creation, the LORD God created the sun, moon and stars. Every month we are given a NEW MOON. Does that mean God recreates a new moon every month and does away with the first moon or is the moon RENEWED each month?

#3) It is a commandment that you cannot add to the Torah or diminish from the Torah.

Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
Deuteronomy 12:32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

Even Yeshua/Jesus said to do all that is said from Moses' Seat, observe and do that.

Mat 23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
Mat 23:2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
Mat 23:3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

#4) The definition for sin and iniquity has never changed.

1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Number 15:29 Ye shall have one law for him that sinneth through ignorance, both for him that is born among the children of Israel, and for the stranger that sojourneth among them.

30 But the soul that doeth ought presumptuously, whether he be born in the land, or a stranger, the same reproacheth the LORD; and that soul shall be cut off from among his people.

31 Because he hath despised the word of the LORD, and hath broken his commandment, that soul shall utterly be cut off; his iniquity shall be upon him.

#5) THE LORD divorced the House of Israel. There punishment last 2530 years. In the meantime, Yeshua was born, lived, was crucified, buried and resurrected so the House of Israel can NOW remarry the LORD/Yeshua.

Romans 7:1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law, (Deuteronomy 24:1-4) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

#6)
Matthew 7:15-23 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

I Never Knew You
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.


#7) Are you grounded and connected to the root of the LORD and HIS WORD or are you some stranger with a NEW THEOLOGY?

Romans 11:16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.

17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

#8)I'm sharing the meat of the Word but you insist of only drinking the milk and you are weak and unstable in understanding righteousness. You boast that the Torah and Tanak are "done away with". What wolf in sheep's clothing told you that? It is a lie and you have bought it without researching the Word and you have so many contradictions, that Daniel 7:25 states And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Hebrews 5:11 Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.
12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

I'm not speaking to just Magenta, but to all who believe the lie that "old covenant is done away with through your Jesus and Paul".







 

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There is neither in Christ Jesus.
Is Jesus or Paul Israelites? Of course they are! Do they both keep the law? Of course they do! Does it matter if you are or are not of the House of Judah or the House of Israel? Of course not!! All strangers, foreigners or aliens of the nations (gentiles) have always been included in Torah and that fact has not changed.

I cannot make the LORD/Yeshua into your mold. The Lord-is the potter
And we are the clay. He molds some vessels for righteousness and some vessels not for righteousness.

Jeremiah 18:4-6 KJV
And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter: so he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it. Then the word of the LORD came to me, saying, O house of Israel, cannot I do with you as this potter? saith the LORD. Behold, as the clay is in the potter's hand, so are ye in mine hand, O house of Israel.

Romans 9:21-23

21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to* make one vessel unto honor, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if* God, willing to shew his wrath,and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

Remember and meditate on the parable of the prodigal son. He was the House of Israel, out in the world wallowing with the pigs. Then he came to his senses and desired to go back to his Father’s house. The House of Judah never left the Father, but was jealous of his brother’s being brought back into the family.

Come Home, you lost sheep of the House of Israel/Gentiles scattered throughout the world, forgetting the LORD and His INSTRUCTIONS . Yeshua is the good shepherd reuniting the Father’s Kingdom. He is removing the partition that divides the kingdom.
 

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You have no idea what you are talking about.
I speak with authority. Jesus received His great authority because of His obedience, and He in turn distributes authority to those who follow Him in obedience as He says in Luke 10:19 Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you.

You’ve been fed lies and your pride is getting in your way of Teshuvah/repent and return. We all need Jesus/Salvation-Yeshua but your man made traditions and doctrines are making the WORD of non effect.
 

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Jeremiah 16:19
O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and [things] wherein [there is] no profit.
 

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Jeremiah 6:16-17 - “Ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it, and you will find rest for your souls.”

The Lord defines the ancient paths as “the good way”- His way; what He has instructed through His Word, His Character and His life. By walking in His way- we find rest for our souls.
 

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Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: “Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.” (Matt.7:13–14.)

That word “narrow” means TRIBULATIONS.
 

Magenta

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You’ve been fed lies
Now you are lying.

your man made traditions and doctrines are making the WORD of non effect.
You are trying to feed your useless religion to people who have a personal relationship with the Lord and Creator.

They won't fall for it. Just how much of the NT Bible do you reject, anyways? Paul wrote about 27-28% of it...
 

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If you search online a lot of people say it is prohibited, however I also read it okay to warm up foods in the microwave.... I'm curious if we can use the microwave or not... What do you guys do and eat on the sabbath??? Any input?🤔
Do you believe you can use a stove on the sabbath day.

If you can then you can use a microwave.

Do you believe you can use an open flame to cook your food.

If you can then you can use a microwave.

It is alright to be able to warm up your food on the sabbath day and it does not matter the source.

And it is not a work to warm up your food regardless of the source.

Shall you not rinse off your vegetables to eat them on the sabbath.

Or would it be wrong to use a facet but you have to use a water stream.

So we cannot use modern appliances for anything on the sabbath day but must use all natural sources.

Does the Amish know something we do not know.

Is it alright to shoot an animal with an arrow because it is more natural than a gun although the arrow shot animal will suffer more not being put out of its misery as quick unless you are a good shot like David when he took down Goliath, but maybe David did not kill Goliath with the stone only dropped him possibly knocking him out which is why he cut off his head.

Or did he kill Goliath with the stone but wanted the head for a trophy next to the bear, and lion head mounts with Goliath in the middle to add ambience to the room.

So many questions so little time.

To microwave or not to microwave that is the question.

Or to be a microwaver or not to be a microwaver that is the question.

But it does not matter because it is a spiritual sabbath in the New Testament which Jesus took the physical ordinances of Israel out of the way nailing them to His cross which includes the physical sabbath days.

And I am glad of that for if we had to still keep the physical sabbath then I would be tossing to and fro on my bed, and would not be able to sleep well, and my eating habits would dwindle along with my weight for I would be trying to figure out if I can use the microwave or not because you brought it up and I would want to know.

And if I could not find out then I might end up in the mental institution with a boggled mind that can't understand.

So it would be better to not even use the microwave and avoid all of the headache of trying to figure it out.

Just leave it alone like this question and save some brain cells for why do you want to be stressed out.
 

Grace911

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Now you are lying.

You are trying to feed your useless religion to people who have a personal relationship with the Lord and Creator.

They won't fall for it. Just how much of the NT Bible do you reject, anyways? Paul wrote about 27-28% of it...
I don't find fault with the writings, just need to realign stinking thinking if it doesn't cooperated with all the WORD.
 

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Now you are lying.

You are trying to feed your useless religion to people who have a personal relationship with the Lord and Creator.

They won't fall for it. Just how much of the NT Bible do you reject, anyways? Paul wrote about 27-28% of it...
this is an old judaizer trick- try to make Paul appear to contradict Christ.

what they ignore is -Acts 9 v.15, 16
 

Magenta

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this is an old judaizer trick- try to make Paul appear to contradict Christ.

what they ignore is -Acts 9 v.15, 16
I notice they ignore a whole lot more than that...
 

Grace911

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What is a judaizer? Jesus called them out as hypocrites and vipers for elevating their man made traditions and customs above God thus making void the Word of God.

Tradition = paradosis = 666

Yeshua/Jesus is the root of our salvation.

Obedience is the fruit of our salvation.