Let Not Your Heart Be Troubled: Ye Believe In God, Believe Also In Me.
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You were saying things on your mind, but we think it was about what I posted 7-22-23 The Ark Returns
Jesus said that He was in the Father and the Father was in Him. So both things are true.
You fancy yourself a teacher but from what I've observed your understanding of God's word is pretty weak. You're good at spreading 7th day and Judaizing propaganda; you've got that down pat. You're on here and other boards day in and day out spreading propaganda hoping to snag the unsuspecting in your net. Actually I find it pretty despicable, not loving at all.
You mean looking unto Him to help you keep the law. You're very good at saying one thing but meaning quite another.
Are you involved with a church yet or still hanging on to Triumph Prophetic Ministries and your idol William Dankenbring?
did you read what Paul’s saying ?
“blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; and having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.”
Colossians 2:14-17
What is Paul talking about there ? What is the handwriting of ordinance that was against us Jesus took out of the way ?
“Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.”
Deuteronomy 31:26 KJV
Colossians 2 is one of Paul’s many explainations that the law of Moses has been taken out of the way of Christian’s the sabbath commands in it , the ordinances in it , the ceremonial washings in it the many tedious works regarding remission of sins ect everything written in the law was only a shadow ot is seeing Gods Will like this
When we’re lookin at the wrotten law it’s this
“and not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished: but their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament;
which vail is done away in Christ. ( Photo n the gospel ) But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.”
2 Corinthians 3:13-15 KJV
The ordinances and written laws are here
“which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience; which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.”
Hebrews 9:9-10 KJV
the reformation came
“The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.”
Luke 16:16 KJV
We aren’t of the law but of the gospel and f you look at acts chapter 15 this is settled well they meet to ask the question “ should Christian’s preach and keep the law is it our doctrine ? “
they all discuss and agree the law of Moses nor circumcision is Christian doctrine this includes Peter Paul and James ong with the elders of the early cchrich
at here we’re done bekievers saying “ we have to obey Moses law and get circumcised like he said “ but this brought a great meeting of apostles to determine the answer and it becomes no the law of Moses shouldn’t be preached to disciples of Jesus because it is an unbearable yoke
“But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.
Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: but that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment: For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; that ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: ( these are from the law ) from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.”
Acts 15:5-6, 10-11, 19-20, 24, 28-29 KJV
in the end God doesn’t care what day of the week it is he cares how we’re treating others , he doesn’t care about tedious carnal rules and ordinances he cares about how one man treats th others and how they treat him
God is not about the law of Moses he is about the gospel of Jesus Christ
Can you tell me what this thread is about.Sunday 7-22-23 7th. Day Of The Weekly Cycle, AV 4 5783, 32nd. Summer Day
John 14 NIV
Colossians 2
1 For I would that ye knew what great conflict I have for you, and for them at Laodicea, and for as many as have not seen my face in the flesh;
2 That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;
3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
4 And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words.
5 For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ.
6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him:
7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
19 And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.
20 Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,
21 (Touch not; taste not; handle not;
22 Which all are to perish with the usingafter the commandments and doctrines of men?
23 Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body: not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.
Colossians 3
The Position Of The Believer
1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
Put Off The Old Man
5 Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:
6 For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
7 In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them.
8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.
9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;
10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
Put On The New Man
12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;
13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.
14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.
15 And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful.
16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.
17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.
Holiness In Family Life
18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
19 Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them.
20 Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.
21 Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged.
Holiness In Work Life
22 Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God;
23 And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;
24 Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ.
25 But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.
Love, Walter And Debbie
Is this thread for believers who know the lord or believers who don't know the lords word
Could you express what this thread is about
always love reading your posts and interacting with both of your loving and good spirits towards others
“Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.”
Romans 3:19-20 KJV
But we see here that there was something else determined long before the law
“The law and the prophets were until John:
since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.”
Luke 16:16
The Old Testament law
“what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. “
the New Testament living word of Jesus
some read this part here
“Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.”
Matthew 5:17-18 KJV
But they never notice this revelation he gives after he rose
“And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, ( the law and prophets and psalms ) and said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. And ye are witnesses of these things.
And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high.”
Luke 24:44-49 KJV
a notice one testement gives the knowledge of and makes the world guilty of sin and the other testement is about Jesus dying and being raised and about repentance of sin and remission or removal of sins
It’s this being fulfilled
“Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
(hes saying I’m going to make a new different covenant not renew the same one you keep breaking )
but this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.”
Jeremiah 31:31-34
you can see that what the gospel teaches us will fulfill what he’s saying there
Its why we’re told so much hear Jesus words and believe them and trust him because he’s speaking Gods own words , this is how he’s writing his true law on our hearts his words are his law
“Hearken unto me,( jesus ) my people; and give ear unto me, O my nation: for a law shall ( in the future ) proceed from me, ( Jesus ) and I will make my judgment to rest for a light of the people.”
Isaiah 51:4
This is well after Moses law had come what I’m saying is probably not well said but there are two seperate covenants one became a curse because it was broken so trying To indersrsnd God and serve God based upon it is this
“For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.”
Galatians 3:10-
The law is good and holy and necassary in the earth before we can be saved by the gospel but once we meet Jesus d he begins to be with us by his spirit we have the living law giver inside us and as we hear the gospel and believe he writes thoer things in us so it doesn’t escape through one ear and out the other he tattoos it sort of on our conscience because we hear and believe and learn and grow it re shapes us
then well never kill so we don’t need to be told by anyone “ don’t kill anyone “ we won’t be thieves so we won’t need to hear “ don’t steal from people “ well of course keep the morality of the law but not by looking at wrotten commands. It instead by just learning from the lord himself what he wills
“It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.”
John 6:45 KJV