Fullness of the gentiles

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Lanolin

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When will the fullness of the gentiles come in? Romans 11:25
I am just wondering are there any signs of that.
 

Blade

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No clue.. would seem if we look out and pray listen.. any moment I think. Some believe its when the Church age is over.. as in we are gone. For whats coming we know is not for us but the wicked and its about Israel. IF.. IF we look at this in years.. its almost been 6000 years.. anyway.. I think its closer then any one knows
 

montana123

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When will the fullness of the gentiles come in? Romans 11:25
I am just wondering are there any signs of that.
Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

Eze 39:21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.
Eze 39:22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward.
Eze 39:23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.
Eze 39:24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them.
Eze 39:25 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;
Eze 39:26 After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid.
Eze 39:27 When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;
Eze 39:28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.
Eze 39:29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.

Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

Zec 14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Zec 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
Zec 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

God is going to restore the kingdom on earth back to the Hebrews in the millennial reign of Christ.

God is love and loves all people and will not give up on the world until the they give up on Him, so He is allowing the world a certain amount of time to have their way, and cause all people that do not love Him to follow the New Age Christ/antichrist, then He will end sin on earth.

God is giving the world 7 years to have their way although the deception happened before that time which is the new age movement that exalts people that they are evolving to be spiritual, and a god, and there is no God, which is how they interpret all religions.

The New Age Christ will establish peace in the Middle East and it will pave the way for all Hebrews to go back to Israel for the Gentile nations will see to it, and the New Age Christ wants them all back on their land, and none of them will be left in the nations.

The New Age Christ will be considered a great man of peace, and be the biggest player on the world scene, and he will push the agenda of the new age movement and things will change drastically.

The first three and one half years the world still has salvation available to them, and the world will be split in to ten sections as they work for peace on earth.

The 10 horn kingdom will fail at providing peace on earth and they turn to the New Age Christ for the solution to have peace on earth.

He will claim to have evolved to be spiritual, and a god, and the false prophet will do miracles which the Bible calls lying wonders to convince the world that the New Age Christ did evolve, and gave this power to the false prophet, and will give this power to all people that follow him.

When they take the mark of the beast then salvation is no longer available to the world, and the fulness of the Gentiles will have come in, and God will turn to the Hebrews and turn them to the truth that Jesus is their Lord and Savior by 2 witnesses for the last three and one half years, and at the end of that time Israel as a nation will be in the truth.

United Nations Agenda 21, or Agenda 30 for the year 2030 for the year they wanted it established in every nation, which is a sustainability act which 179 nations agreed to it in 1992.

One of the agendas is to place all people in the cities, and no development can happen outside city limits.

The people become the police force of the cities, and there will be no guns, and no hunting of animals, which they will stop the eating of meat.

If a person commits a crime they will be an outcast and shunned by the city which they would not want that so it will help to stop crime.

They will be given a microchip linked to satellite like a GPS tracking system for humans, and if a crime happens they will know who was in the area, and how close they were to the crime scene, which will greatly help to stop crime, and will cut out judges, and lawyers, and the now known police force.

Also no person can buy or sell except those that get the microchip, and they might only allow those that were vaccinated to get the chip.

The microchip is the mark of the beast and his system to stop crime, and to have peace.

The new age movement is of the occult and they believe in the power of numbers, and the adding, timing, and grouping of numbers, which they believe will give them more power through nature.

They talk about angel numbers and the angel number 666 which they believe is a good number according to the Cosmos.

They want to convince the world to embrace that number for they believe it will give the world the power to have peace, and to evolve to be spiritual.

6 is the number of a man, or the soul of a man, so the New Age Christ assigned himself the number 666, a triple 6, for he believes it will give him more power through nature to establish his kingdom, and prosper.

That is where 666 comes in at.
 

Nehemiah6

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#4
When will the fullness of the gentiles come in? Romans 11:25 I am just wondering are there any signs of that.
This is an internal and spiritual matter. So only God would know when the fulness of the Gentiles is being completed.
 

birdie

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When will the fullness of the gentiles come in? Romans 11:25
I am just wondering are there any signs of that.
"For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins."

Thanks Lanolin for asking this question. The segment of Romans 11 that mentions the fullness of the Gentiles is talking about Jesus coming from heaven to turn persons to him, and to give them the covenant of taking away their sins. This is what happened when Jesus went to the cross and rose again to give believers his covenant of taking away their sins.
We read:
"There shall come out of Sion (coming from heaven) the Deliverer ( that's Jesus), and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob (Jesus turns people to him - Jacob is a picture of all believers who turn to him) : For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins (God has a covenant of forgiving sins for all true believers)."

The segment of scripture also says: ""And so all Israel shall be saved" This does not mean and THEN all Israel shall be saved. The word 'so' does not mean 'when'. The word 'so' means 'in this manner', 'in this way'. The piece of scripture says - in this way all Israel shall be saved. The term 'all Israel' means all true believers, both Jews and Gentiles.

So what is the manner or the way in which all true believers are saved? The manner is by the way just described in the scripture. With only part of the cultural Jews being saved and only part of the Gentiles being saved. Further, it is Jesus' covenant of coming from heaven to die in their place and to be resurrected and to turn them to him through the new covenant.

Now it seems that we are presently in the time when Gentiles are being saved. This time of persons being saved will continue up until the very last Gentile is saved. And then that's all folks. That's the manner and the covenant in which everyone who is saved will be saved. Notice what is missing please. There is no resurgence of cultural political Jews who are then setting up some special extra time period when Jews finally turn to Jesus type of kingdom on earth, as some would have us believe. It is simply some of the cultural Jews (Paul for instance was one) and some of the cultural Gentiles, who are collectively all true believers - all Israel.
 

Inquisitor

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When will the fullness of the gentiles come in? Romans 11:25
I am just wondering are there any signs of that.
There is another verse regarding the fullness of the Gentiles.

Luke 21:24
And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and will be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled underfoot by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

The verse above might have some context given the next verse in Luke.

Luke 21:25
There will be signs in the sun and moon and stars, and on the earth distress among nations, in perplexity at the roaring of the sea and the waves.

Is that the timing of the fulness of the Gentiles?
 

Nehemiah6

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There is another verse regarding the fullness of the Gentiles.
That is NOT about the fulness of the Gentiles. It is about "the times of the Gentiles". Two totally different things. It is about the desecration of the temple and the temple mount by Gentiles between 70 AD and the end of the reign of the Antichrist. God has allowed this desecration until the Second Coming of Christ, and Muslims have lad claim to the temple for a very long time.
 

JaumeJ

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Moslems have laid claim to the Temple mount. The ruins of the Temple have been covered and recovered by other structiores since 70 A>D> The only (supposedly) ruins from the temple forms the Wall, the only ruins now visible. You may know it as the wailing Wall.
 

selahsays

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When will the fullness of the gentiles come in? Romans 11:25
I am just wondering are there any signs of that.
I believe that would be right before the Second Coming. The Olivet Prophecy lays it out how it’s going to happen.
 

seekingthemindofChrist

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When will the fullness of the gentiles come in? Romans 11:25
The short answer would be when the last Gentile is saved prior to Christ's second coming.
I am just wondering are there any signs of that.
All I can say is that there currently are many unsaved Gentiles, and many unsaved Jews, on this planet, and we should be doing our parts, as laborers together with God, to try to help them into the coming kingdom of God by sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ with them.
 

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Moslems have laid claim to the Temple mount. The ruins of the Temple have been covered and recovered by other structiores since 70 A>D> The only (supposedly) ruins from the temple forms the Wall, the only ruins now visible. You may know it as the wailing Wall.
The wailing wall is a foundational wall, not a wall of the temple.
 

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Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

Eze 39:21 And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.
Eze 39:22 So the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD their God from that day and forward.
Eze 39:23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.
Eze 39:24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions have I done unto them, and hid my face from them.
Eze 39:25 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Now will I bring again the captivity of Jacob, and have mercy upon the whole house of Israel, and will be jealous for my holy name;
Eze 39:26 After that they have borne their shame, and all their trespasses whereby they have trespassed against me, when they dwelt safely in their land, and none made them afraid.
Eze 39:27 When I have brought them again from the people, and gathered them out of their enemies' lands, and am sanctified in them in the sight of many nations;
Eze 39:28 Then shall they know that I am the LORD their God, which caused them to be led into captivity among the heathen: but I have gathered them unto their own land, and have left none of them any more there.
Eze 39:29 Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD.

Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

Zec 14:1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Zec 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
Zec 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

God is going to restore the kingdom on earth back to the Hebrews in the millennial reign of Christ.

God is love and loves all people and will not give up on the world until the they give up on Him, so He is allowing the world a certain amount of time to have their way, and cause all people that do not love Him to follow the New Age Christ/antichrist, then He will end sin on earth.

God is giving the world 7 years to have their way although the deception happened before that time which is the new age movement that exalts people that they are evolving to be spiritual, and a god, and there is no God, which is how they interpret all religions.

The New Age Christ will establish peace in the Middle East and it will pave the way for all Hebrews to go back to Israel for the Gentile nations will see to it, and the New Age Christ wants them all back on their land, and none of them will be left in the nations.

The New Age Christ will be considered a great man of peace, and be the biggest player on the world scene, and he will push the agenda of the new age movement and things will change drastically.

The first three and one half years the world still has salvation available to them, and the world will be split in to ten sections as they work for peace on earth.

The 10 horn kingdom will fail at providing peace on earth and they turn to the New Age Christ for the solution to have peace on earth.

He will claim to have evolved to be spiritual, and a god, and the false prophet will do miracles which the Bible calls lying wonders to convince the world that the New Age Christ did evolve, and gave this power to the false prophet, and will give this power to all people that follow him.

When they take the mark of the beast then salvation is no longer available to the world, and the fulness of the Gentiles will have come in, and God will turn to the Hebrews and turn them to the truth that Jesus is their Lord and Savior by 2 witnesses for the last three and one half years, and at the end of that time Israel as a nation will be in the truth.

United Nations Agenda 21, or Agenda 30 for the year 2030 for the year they wanted it established in every nation, which is a sustainability act which 179 nations agreed to it in 1992.

One of the agendas is to place all people in the cities, and no development can happen outside city limits.

The people become the police force of the cities, and there will be no guns, and no hunting of animals, which they will stop the eating of meat.

If a person commits a crime they will be an outcast and shunned by the city which they would not want that so it will help to stop crime.

They will be given a microchip linked to satellite like a GPS tracking system for humans, and if a crime happens they will know who was in the area, and how close they were to the crime scene, which will greatly help to stop crime, and will cut out judges, and lawyers, and the now known police force.

Also no person can buy or sell except those that get the microchip, and they might only allow those that were vaccinated to get the chip.

The microchip is the mark of the beast and his system to stop crime, and to have peace.

The new age movement is of the occult and they believe in the power of numbers, and the adding, timing, and grouping of numbers, which they believe will give them more power through nature.

They talk about angel numbers and the angel number 666 which they believe is a good number according to the Cosmos.

They want to convince the world to embrace that number for they believe it will give the world the power to have peace, and to evolve to be spiritual.

6 is the number of a man, or the soul of a man, so the New Age Christ assigned himself the number 666, a triple 6, for he believes it will give him more power through nature to establish his kingdom, and prosper.

That is where 666 comes in at.
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This post is the most foolish thing I have read
 

Lanolin

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I am still a bit confused about this

new age christ? Not Jesus Himself? Huh

are there Jesus imposters?
 

Lanolin

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"For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins."

Thanks Lanolin for asking this question. The segment of Romans 11 that mentions the fullness of the Gentiles is talking about Jesus coming from heaven to turn persons to him, and to give them the covenant of taking away their sins. This is what happened when Jesus went to the cross and rose again to give believers his covenant of taking away their sins.
We read:
"There shall come out of Sion (coming from heaven) the Deliverer ( that's Jesus), and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob (Jesus turns people to him - Jacob is a picture of all believers who turn to him) : For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins (God has a covenant of forgiving sins for all true believers)."

The segment of scripture also says: ""And so all Israel shall be saved" This does not mean and THEN all Israel shall be saved. The word 'so' does not mean 'when'. The word 'so' means 'in this manner', 'in this way'. The piece of scripture says - in this way all Israel shall be saved. The term 'all Israel' means all true believers, both Jews and Gentiles.

So what is the manner or the way in which all true believers are saved? The manner is by the way just described in the scripture. With only part of the cultural Jews being saved and only part of the Gentiles being saved. Further, it is Jesus' covenant of coming from heaven to die in their place and to be resurrected and to turn them to him through the new covenant.

Now it seems that we are presently in the time when Gentiles are being saved. This time of persons being saved will continue up until the very last Gentile is saved. And then that's all folks. That's the manner and the covenant in which everyone who is saved will be saved. Notice what is missing please. There is no resurgence of cultural political Jews who are then setting up some special extra time period when Jews finally turn to Jesus type of kingdom on earth, as some would have us believe. It is simply some of the cultural Jews (Paul for instance was one) and some of the cultural Gentiles, who are collectively all true believers - all Israel.
um ok so what about the millenium? Or is that just figurative language for 1000 years. In Revelation.
I am not sure if this is correct if you are just giving scripture in segments that have no relation to each other.
 

selahsays

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I am still a bit confused about this

new age christ? Not Jesus Himself? Huh

are there Jesus imposters?
Hi, Lanolin… I’m not sure I understand what you mean. Satan will be kicked out of heaven. He will set himself up in Jerusalem and claim to be God. Many will be deceived. He is the antichrist.
 

selahsays

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Satan comes at the 6th trump.

At the sounding of the 7th trump when Jesus returns, the millennium begins.
 

Pilgrimshope

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When will the fullness of the gentiles come in? Romans 11:25
I am just wondering are there any signs of that.
Gentile means any nation that is not israel

so consider this scripture

“And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; ( gentiles ) and then shall the end come.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Another way to say that is gentiles are all creators of earth not of the old covenant chosen and seperated people ( the children of Israel )


“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. ( gentiles ) He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;

but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

after the kingdom is preached to everyone the king will return at the end of the world

“When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: and before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: for I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. …And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.


Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: for I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. And these shall go away into everlasting punishment:

but the righteous into life eternal.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭25:31-32, 34-36, 40-43, 45-46‬ ‭KJV‬‬

you can see how anyone and everyone is welcome now all gentiles and Jews are welcome in the new covenant when the time comes jesus will return and fether his people not based on whether they were born an Israelite by human blood , but based on whether they are born of Gods spirit through Christ nd how they treated others

Your asking when is the time God will stop accepting any person based on what they believe and not what thier flesh and blood says about them

A gentile just means any non israelite by geneology any person on earth regardless of nationality or blood and flesh identity can be saved until the end of the world if they believe the gospel
 

Lanolin

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Hi, Lanolin… I’m not sure I understand what you mean. Satan will be kicked out of heaven. He will set himself up in Jerusalem and claim to be God. Many will be deceived. He is the antichrist.
what, didnt Allah already do that. Muhammed being his prophet. Muhammed was anti-christ. He claimed Jesus Christ didnt come in the flesh.