Global warming or upcoming ice age

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ZNP

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lol 😂 ok the foundations of our plannet may well be eternal, where as the crust (the earth is not)

This is where it get easy to illustrate because if the foundations our of heaven, then heaven creating new earth is easy to understand.

We understand that heaven replenishes us people and disciplines the flesh,

As you put the Isreal is a land flowing with milk and honey.

The honey may well be a product of the heavenly foundations that treats the earth ( the crust)

Well we see that the honey is snatched away from many people who never know Christ.

Is the honey ( the oil) being snatched away to destroy us to,

The enemy came to steal and destroy.
I lose interest quickly with this topic. I am always reminded of my sister who is this rabid environmentalist about recycling. We were sitting and talking and one person brought up how most of the stuff sent to the recycling center is just dumped in the landfill. My sister went ballistic to not talk about that, not because it wasn't true, but because this truth would discourage people from recycling. Imagine that, she knows that most of the stuff just goes to a landfill but it doesn't matter we have to follow this stuff like it is the ten commandments and you have sinned against God.

The more it becomes some kind of creepy religion the more I avoid it.
 

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I lose interest quickly with this topic. I am always reminded of my sister who is this rabid environmentalist about recycling. We were sitting and talking and one person brought up how most of the stuff sent to the recycling center is just dumped in the landfill. My sister went ballistic to not talk about that, not because it wasn't true, but because this truth would discourage people from recycling. Imagine that, she knows that most of the stuff just goes to a landfill but it doesn't matter we have to follow this stuff like it is the ten commandments and you have sinned against God.

The more it becomes some kind of creepy religion the more I avoid it.
you made some good points I'll reply soon 🙂, but just a small note on recycling, there is lot of recycling going on now, which is a good thing, we have 4 bins in the UK for each household.


a blue one for paper and cardboard.

A green bin for garden waste.

A brown bin for plastic, glass and metals.

We have a black bin for general waste

The bin men all come at different schedules once every couple of weeks.

Where only allowed to put plastic bin bags in the black bin general waste like food plate scraps and other house hold crap.
That's still a lot of plastic going into landfill sites.

I'm not sure how it for other countries as once a tune we use to put everything in the one bin.

But on a whole its good progress.

you might like this video it's a giggle 🙂

 

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I forgot to mention it's not all doom and gloom there is hope.

This video demonstrates that's it like to be 70 years befor CO2 hits a 3c increase which would be a huge a tipping point.

But then who knows it could be sooner 🤔

 

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I lose interest quickly with this topic. I am always reminded of my sister who is this rabid environmentalist about recycling. We were sitting and talking and one person brought up how most of the stuff sent to the recycling center is just dumped in the landfill. My sister went ballistic to not talk about that, not because it wasn't true, but because this truth would discourage people from recycling. Imagine that, she knows that most of the stuff just goes to a landfill but it doesn't matter we have to follow this stuff like it is the ten commandments and you have sinned against God.

The more it becomes some kind of creepy religion the more I avoid it.
This may interest but what's your view on gravity causing this huge dip and also drawing oil from the surface to the mantle ?

If this is true this means the earth core is constantly drawing oil from the earth surface to the the earth inner core also quicker because of pressure. What happens if we remove most of the service oil ?



Researchers shed light on the ‘mystery’ of the gravity hole found in the Indian Ocean
The new study claims the Earth’s surface is not a perfect sphere, but a rough shape 1690409840031.png

Scientists believe they have finally solved the mystery surrounding the Earth’s lowest “gravity hole”.
The long-pondered mysterious depression spot in the Indian Ocean that experiences less gravity than the rest of the planet is likely due to large plumes of magma under the Earth’s crust, scientists have revealed.

There are low-density gravity holes located all over the planet, but the one in the Indian Ocean - named the Indian Ocean Geoid Low (IOGL) - is the most profound, spanning 1.2 million square miles off India’s southern coast and causing a 328-foot dip in the sea level.
To carry out the study, researchers used supercomputers to simulate the seismic formation of the Earth. They ran a total of 19 simulations, examining how tectonic plates moved over 140 million years. Six of the scenarios led to a geoid low, resembling the one in the Indian Ocean.
 

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I lose interest quickly with this topic. If i have to follow this stuff like it is the ten commandments and you have sinned against God.

The more it becomes some kind of creepy religion the more I avoid it.
This seems a bit drastic to me.

But we are called to be stewards of our earth.

Remember Adam was assigned to keeping the earth, so it would only be natural to care for it and everyone can be a steward in some way 🙂.

But don't forget we are covering every aspect of this topic including prophecy.


It's good to plant trees have you ever done it ?.

Theres a time when you can catch seeds from trees at certain times of the year,

I've planted loads lol.

Where I live we have a 50 mile river that I walk most days for years with my dog

There's must be 2000 new trees coming through in places, but don't tell anyone I planted them 😂.
 

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Do any of you think that it might be possible that the Earth could move into an Age of Moderate Weather?
 

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This seems a bit drastic to me.

But we are called to be stewards of our earth.

Remember Adam was assigned to keeping the earth, so it would only be natural to care for it and everyone can be a steward in some way 🙂.

But don't forget we are covering every aspect of this topic including prophecy.


It's good to plant trees have you ever done it ?.

Theres a time when you can catch seeds from trees at certain times of the year,

I've planted loads lol.

Where I live we have a 50 mile river that I walk most days for years with my dog

There's must be 2000 new trees coming through in places, but don't tell anyone I planted them 😂.
Yeah, I just can't take them seriously, AOC, John Kerry, Dicaprio. Not going to let some bar maid with a degree in drama lecture me, much less a liar flying around in his private plane telling us he doesn't own a plane because it is his wife's or some guy on a luxury yacht tweeting about how we need to "save the planet". These guys are as bad as huxsters preaching a prosperity gospel. Are they telling us to plant trees or do we have to spend tens of thousands of dollars for electric cars and update our homes. It is a scam to make billions of dollars. Everything they tell you is a lie. Every prediction, blown up in their face. Why are people not calling them false prophets?

If the scientists all agree why is it these three that are the ones out hawking this "green new deal"?
 

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Northeast USA has had one of the wettest seasons in history. Maine got completely affected in terms of tourism and so have many other coastal towns who depend on a influx of tourists during the season.
New York has been hit the hardest in terms of flooding and i think i read somewhere in headlines that a few people even lost their lives in landslides.
I liived in the state of Maine for 8 years. Miserable climate for sure.
 

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Do any of you think that it might be possible that the Earth could move into an Age of Moderate Weather?
It depends what you mean by natural cycle, or moderate weather, or where you live and what you experience, 🤔

Is there any thing Moderate about banning the sales of all diesel and petrol cars in the UK by 2030 this seems pretty drastic to me and far from moderate.

The natural cycle belief is a fossil burning junkies dream ticket to paradise lol and somebody who still lives as a dinosaur 😋
 

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Yeah, I just can't take them seriously, AOC, John Kerry, Dicaprio. Not going to let some bar maid with a degree in drama lecture me, much less a liar flying around in his private plane telling us he doesn't own a plane because it is his wife's or some guy on a luxury yacht tweeting about how we need to "save the planet". These guys are as bad as huxsters preaching a prosperity gospel. Are they telling us to plant trees or do we have to spend tens of thousands of dollars for electric cars and update our homes. It is a scam to make billions of dollars. Everything they tell you is a lie. Every prediction, blown up in their face. Why are people not calling them false prophets?

If the scientists all agree why is it these three that are the ones out hawking this "green new deal"?
Theres many different type of people emerging over the climate debate.

Well I mean there phobias or there response to fear,

Or how they dismiss fear to the back of there mind with answers like

Climate change is doom and gloom

Climate change is a myth

Climate change is a money racket.


The truth is to many big cats getting rich has ignored the science for far to long, now theese rich men are trying to put right what they've ignored, because the signs are now obvious, it's not just about scientific theory anymore

theese rich men are guilty for not speaking up And God has convicted them and hardened there hearts to speak up ☺️

I predict America is going to have the worst winter and hurricane and tornado season on record.

With the UK experiencing there first ever extreme tornadoes ever in the UK and we will be battered this year.
 

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The best info I've found for elnino causing a severe winter this year.

Unprecedented.

Historically significant El nino strengthening beyond all records this winter for the Northern hemisphere based on the strongest ever el nino records and recorded weather pattern before a super en-nino hit the northern hemisphere in the year 1917.

 

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Although the above video was a bit funny its still quite serious,

As the weather report from the video before that one suggests we are going to have a prolonged el Nina coming this winter colliding with the Northern hemisphere.

So as you see from the above video winters are actually more severe when you have strong warm air from an stronger El nino hitting a colder environment,

Weather predictions predict that this particular El nino is going to be unprecedented this year

If the warmer air continues throughout winter it actually flows over the cold air.

And traps the colder air to the ground,

I believe that this phenomena alone can cause a severe Ice age to develop over the whole northern Hemisphere, that could spread further south.

Because of blizzards.
 

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Bearing in mind what I've just wrote above if winter does cross over into the southern, when we come out of winter in the Northern hemisphere and the southern hemisphere starts it's winter,

This could be how a global Ice age happens
 

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Jesus: The Lord is Salvation

16 These are the names of the men which Moses sent to spy out the land. And Moses called Oshea the son of Nun Jehoshua.

Oshea means salvation, Jehoshua means Jehovah is salvation. Joshua was not born Joshua, he was transformed to be Joshua. This is a picture for us. Jesus is the image of the invisible God, He lives inside of each of us, if we allow Him to fill us and flow through us we will ultimately be transformed to express Him. This is not something to be grasped. Rather for us we are servants going to the cross, but for others they will see Jesus in us.

17 And Moses sent them to spy out the land of Canaan, and said unto them, Get you up this way southward, and go up into the mountain:

18 And see the land, what it is, and the people that dwelleth therein, whether they be strong or weak, few or many;

19 And what the land is that they dwell in, whether it be good or bad; and what cities they be that they dwell in, whether in tents, or in strong holds;

20 And what the land is, whether it be fat or lean, whether there be wood therein, or not. And be ye of good courage, and bring of the fruit of the land. Now the time was the time of the firstripe grapes.

The time of the firstripe grapes is the time of Pentecost, the feast of New Wine. The church age is the time of first ripe grapes. Many of the doctrines beginning with Peter going to the Gentiles were "first ripe grapes". The church is the new wine skin filled with the new wine. Some can read this passage and they see "dominion theology" thinking that we are spying out Satan's kingdom. This is false, the good land is Jesus Christ, the incarnated word of God.

Colossians 2:6 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: 7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.

We can walk in this good land which is Jesus, we are rooted in this land and we are built up in this land. We bring forth fruit as long as we abide in Him.
 

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Are you prepared for a severe prolonged Antarctic conditions

Layers upon layers of cloths are needed.

Multiple layers of stretchy clothing that fit snugly to you skin a good choice is nylon and cotton. Followed by thicker clothing a good choice is wool,

followed by fully water proof clothing in two ways

One fully water proof none breathable water proof suit, pants and jacket.
good affordable ones at low cost can be bought

One breathable water proof suit

You may need to to switch between the two

Or even put both on if going out side

But with a none breathable you have to be careful you don't sweat to much. The sweat can turn cold quite quickly
 

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More education on el- nino, and la-nino.

Yep, it was really hot here yesterday. It reminded me of 50 years ago in a small town in NY (20,000 people), I was just a kid but it was so hot my sneakers were melting when I walked across the street. Granted it wasn't that hot yesterday, but it did bring back memories.
 

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Yep, it was really hot here yesterday. It reminded me of 50 years ago in a small town in NY (20,000 people), I was just a kid but it was so hot my sneakers were melting when I walked across the street. Granted it wasn't that hot yesterday, but it did bring back memories.
there was a strong elnino in the 1950s

Could be you had a strong one at that time to, what was the winter like that year, do you remember.

Did you have strong hurricanes ?.

Where im going with this is, we could get the biggest ever hurricane ever with cold air trapped.

A super hurricane that grows and covers most of the northern hemisphere
Would trap cold air everywhere.

Followed by more super hurricanes with blizzards.

The constant flow of a super elnino warm air current that could be warmer air than ever, could be how global ice ages start very quickly.

The studies suggest there's no way of knowing just how bad it could get.

There's many theories how global ice ages start.

But I feel with all the avenues I've studied this seems to be the most consistent