question: Can an unsaved person be baptized in the Holy Spirit?

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here, i am being called an IDIOT!

"It's about the Holy Spirit Baptism." You are aware that "Holy Spirit Baptism" is metaphysical in nature? Please tell me that you are aware of this.
 

Fundaamental

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i won't apologize for talking to someone preaching a Wrong and calling me STUPID for not seeing it his way.
there's a big difference to calling stupid than calling someone a baboon and telling them to shove something up themselfs sideways,

And if you don't apologize for this then your heart is hardened
 
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Telling someone to shove it sideways or speak about Baboon Feaces is not what Jesus would say. That is not rebuke. That is profane speech. Nor is it a display of the fruits of the Spirit. YOu can call a false teach what it is. False! Then prove it from the word of God.
I will also say you most likely would not speak that way in the presence of the person because it might be a different response back to you. That is, in my opinion, cowardly.

If you talk to the " possessed" in like manner, you are very much unlearned of spiritual warfare and deliverance.

Our Speech is to be seasoned with salt. Not profane.

You have just been admonished and rebuked. And I did not have to speak of any animals or insults to do it.


Good day.
nah, I should have said Vipers, which means, a snake crawled inside your mother and gave birth to the most evil snake - Jesus words


yeah, I like those words better!
 

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no one is arguing Water Baptism did not take place.
But the Verses I posted are Holy Spirit Baptism, and as you plainly see when you READ the Verses, NO WATER is ever mentioned with this type of Baptism.

The Bible is TRUTH, and you are twisting it like the Enemy would.
Laughable response! How can I be twisting anything? It's simply scripture that is presented!! Go back to sleep 😴
 

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You can bully and goodbye all you want, the Bible doesn't not include water baptism as a condition of salvation. Paul never intended it to be a commandment. That isn't what he taught nor the instructions given to him when he went to Jerusalem. In fact, he told us that if we even tried to fulfill just one commandment as a means of justification, then Christ is of no value to us.

Romans 10:9-11
That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. 11As the Scripture says, "Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame."

Ephesians2:8-19
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

100 verses that contradict your interpretation.
Code:
https://www.openbible.info/topics/justification_by_faith_alone
You can place the yoke back on your own necks if you like, but no matter how many commandments one follows, it will not gain them salvation.
C U
 

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yes, real life demon possessions.
not the animated movie, although, i am not saying things like that cannot happen.
but i've felt the temperature go from boiling hot and sweat just running off you to so cold and just within split second you're just feeling the physical atmosphere change like that.

but it is very real, demon possession.


I don't believe you have dealt with any real-life demon possession and I think you are untruthful when you say so.
You speaks is like what you claim about possession has had an adverse action to you over you seeing the person delivered.
 
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Laughable response! How can I be twisting anything? It's simply scripture that is presented!! Go back to sleep 😴
but they had nothing in relationship to the Verses i gave in Matthew, Mark, and Luke.
 
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I don't believe you have dealt with any real-life demon possession and I think you are untruthful when you say so.
You speaks is like what you claim about possession has had an adverse action to you over you seeing the person delivered.
i don't believe you can be a Preacher and sit here and fight for someone who professes a False Doctrine.
What kind of Spoke Person for God does that?
 

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nah, I should have said Vipers, which means, a snake crawled inside your mother and gave birth to the most evil snake - Jesus words


yeah, I like those words better!
You are either one demonized yourself or two suffering from some kind of cognitive dilemma. Either way, I rebuke your speech in this setting in the name of the Lord Jesus. Now please continue to manifest your heart and true nature here.

amen.
 
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i realize you're just trying to get me banned, cs1.

But God knows who you are fighting for in this battle!

You will PAY, Touch Not My Anointed!
 

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i don't believe you can be a Preacher and sit here and fight for someone who professes a False Doctrine.
What kind of Spoke Person for God does that?
Not fighting for anyone with or has presented a false doctrine. Every post I have done here will testify to that.
 
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You are either one demonized yourself or two suffering from some kind of cognitive dilemma. Either way, I rebuke your speech in this setting in the name of the Lord Jesus. Now please continue to manifest your heart and true nature here.

amen.
you are in delusion to be backing someone who speaks against Tongues, thinks Water Baptism saves you, and the other Cessational Doctrines.
 

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i realize you're just trying to get me banned, cs1.

But God knows who you are fighting for in this battle!

You will PAY, Touch Not My Anointed!
If I wanted to get you banned, I would ask for you to be banned, but it doesn't work that way. You are fully capable of banning yourself without any of my help.

You are not anointed nor appointed. You are not a prophet, and you are very much needing to seek the Lord.
 

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here, i am being called an IDIOT!

"It's about the Holy Spirit Baptism." You are aware that "Holy Spirit Baptism" is metaphysical in nature? Please tell me that you are aware of this.
you always have this prideful manner when you think your advice is being questioned,

Every Time your intellect is questioned, by you that is, you become all mouthy as if someone is questioning your IQ or something.

Having your iq challenged does not warrant anger.

And anger does not prove intelligence, so either you accept this and apologize or carry on to make a bad name for yourself
 
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If I wanted to get you banned, I would ask for you to be banned, but it doesn't work that way. You are fully capable of banning yourself without any of my help.

You are not anointed nor appointed. You are not a prophet, and you are very much needing to seek the Lord.
you just will not admit that you are backing someone with False Doctrines hahahaha

Denial, is not being accountable for.

A Man of God is ACCOUNTABLE, like I am for my Words!
 

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you are in delusion to be backing someone who speaks against Tongues, thinks Water Baptism saves you, and the other Cessational Doctrines.

FYI, tongues don't save you, guy. Your speech hurts those who hold to the teaching that the gifts of the Holy Spirit are for today. I will say there has been no one more than I who has defended the gifts for today than I have and disagreed with those who believe such.

Never told them to "shove it"; I provided the word of God. When they did and said what you said, they were banned. Your pride has blinded you.
 
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you always have this prideful manner when you think your advice is being questioned,

Every Time your intellect is questioned, by you that is, you become all mouthy as if someone is questioning your IQ or something.

Having your iq challenged does not warrant anger.

And anger does not prove intelligence, so either you accept this and apologize or carry on to make a bad name for yourself
in all honesty, and wished God would speak on my behalf.

i never actually closely read what he said.

i just know the Doctrine is False and spirit behind it is worse.

but when cs1 addressed me.

i did go back and see. but when i quoted those before, i never addressed them because i wasn't thinking about being insulted.

i actually would not have known had my post been brought up.