When the end comes, Jesus hands it over to the Father. Until then, Jesus is King of kings and Lord of lords.All that's interesting, but doesn't address what I asked... Jesus is referred to as King of Kings, not the Father, as you had stated.
When the end comes, Jesus hands it over to the Father. Until then, Jesus is King of kings and Lord of lords.All that's interesting, but doesn't address what I asked... Jesus is referred to as King of Kings, not the Father, as you had stated.
Jesus said He and the Father are One. The heavenly Father is unseen and Jesus was seen. Together they are one and in total unity. The Old Testament says the LORD/YHWH is King. Then we read Jesus sits at the right hand of the Father. A right hand man is your HELPER that you can depend on to do what he is told to do and understands completely what the "boss" thinks.
It is also against the law of God to remarry the same woman after divorce.While I do believe that God divorced Israel due to adultery...I have never heard that the reason Christ came in the flesh, suffered and died, and rose again... was so that He could remarry Israel, whom He divorced.
I was always taught that He died for the sins of the world, so that for those who'd believe that He was the propitiation for us (and did what we could not), we would be restored to God and have Peace and Life Eternal.
I think that this "remarriage religion" is from a very vivid imagination and totally unscriptural.
While I do believe that God divorced Israel due to adultery...I have never heard that the reason Christ came in the flesh, suffered and died, and rose again... was so that He could remarry Israel, whom He divorced.
I was always taught that He died for the sins of the world, so that for those who'd believe that He was the propitiation for us (and did what we could not), we would be restored to God and have Peace and Life Eternal.
I think that this "remarriage religion" is from a very vivid imagination and totally unscriptural.
Psalms 119:127 Therefore I love thy commandments above gold; yea, above fine gold.
1 John_5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
2 John_1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.
Daniel 9:4 And I prayed unto the LORD my God, and made my confession, and said, O Lord, the great and dreadful God, keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him, and to them that keep his commandments;
Some people want to see scriptures and then you give it to them and they complain. Then, trying to appease small minds, they complain when you don't give scripture. They are also ignorant of the thousands of churches that all have sticking points and thus differ from one another. There are denominations that only want to have emotional highs and not the truth, that most times make them have need of itchy ears, the feel good messages, but all the while licking up the false doctrines and accusing anyone who doesn't think and feel like they do are lost and in need of a readjustment.
Only God knows the heart. I do not want to hear our Lord Jesus say "I never knew you". How do we KNOW someone? It is through the intimate relationships we have. God the Father and Jesus the Son told us the way to intimacy is obedience. **edited**
While I do believe that God divorced Israel due to adultery...I have never heard that the reason Christ came in the flesh, suffered and died, and rose again... was so that He could remarry Israel, whom He divorced.
I was always taught that He died for the sins of the world, so that for those who'd believe that He was the propitiation for us (and did what we could not), we would be restored to God and have Peace and Life Eternal.
I think that this "remarriage religion" is from a very vivid imagination and totally unscriptural.
Would you be comfortable with a medical Dr that says that after he or she graduated they discarded text books and the things they were taught by lecturers because he or she believes they only had to learn those this so they could pas and graduate, and that now that they had graduated they felt they could do whatever they want?"Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor." Galatians 3:24-25
Debate over.
Would you be comfortable with a medical Dr that says that after he or she graduated they discarded text books and the things they were taught by lecturers because he or she believes they only had to learn those this so they could pas and graduate, and that now that they had graduated they felt they could do whatever they want?
It is also against the law of God to remarry the same woman after divorce.

I thought you might say something more on target with what the forum is actually about: Fellowship, discussion, sharing thoughts and ideas. But since you said it was a place for you to satisfy your own personal agenda (preaching) rather than it's true purpose I responded accordingly.
Except the fact is that is not what the forum is what it is about, it is about arguments debates theology what we percieve not what God ior what the actual truth of his being and kingdom is you all make your posts as simple words never understanding the power and effects ypur words have never consodidering the spirit behind your words the effect the power of effect your words have on people.I thought you might say something more on target with what the forum is actually about: Fellowship, discussion, sharing thoughts and ideas. But since you said it was a place for you to satisfy your own personal agenda (preaching) rather than it's true purpose I responded accordingly.
Did you not stae who asked me to throw away my bible? You say I am deslusioned yet I have hope life and the faith to dare to believe what others won't even with all you have said the difference between you and I is made evideent, I speak of hope faith believing in what is seen as insane you only speak of your own accordance you have no hope or faith in your words you are dry and empty I suffer greatly and yet continue tpo speak of his kingdom continue to try to to get people to become much closer to himI have never said that you said that. Find the post wherein I stated you said to throw out Scripture.
If you cannot be honest about what you say, or what you accuse others of saying, why should anyone believe that you think God has given you prophecies?
Again, the Bible is clear there are NO prophets that operate alone in this day.
The Holy Spirit's main job on earth is to glorify Jesus. I have no doubt something has asked you if you are ready for 'the real thing'
You are misguided and doing your best to misguide those who are actually not that well acquainted with the written word. Maybe if you were not dabbling in what in all actuality appears to be occultic practices, instead of studying the Bible like a Berean, you would find that word exciting and truthful.
Frankly, you have heard the truth from several sources over months and probably years, but you do not listen.
The Bible is our safeguard against error yet you say the real thing is not in scripture as per your quote I have posted in this response.
I would just warn any and everyone to steer clear of believing the Holy Spirit would tell you that the Bible is not 'the real thing'
ps: You state you have problems reading because of your eyes. Surely you know that the complete Bible is available on cd for those who are seeing impaired.
Except the fact is that is not what the forum is what it is about, it is about arguments debates theology what we percieve not what God ior what the actual truth of his being and kingdom is you all make your posts as simple words never understanding the power and effects ypur words have never consodidering the spirit behind your words the effect the power of effect your words have on people.
or me it is only his will and your dur disbelief comp[ared
If I am wrong in my understanding then stop going after me and prove me qrong but make no mistake all i have said all I have promised is not up to you or me simply because I spoke it it is written in stone simply because I knew it to be so not because of anything of myself but because I lnow who he is.
I can confidently say he lives withg me that his presence is always with me even with all I have to deal with and all I have to suffer through mpre than what most have to deal with, trust me you don't know what real suffering is what true agony and being left alone with no one to herlp yet I far exceed you in him being legally blind having far more issuyes than most people yet I say the kingdom is at hand I dare mto believe where you won't
To be honset the motives betweeen me and you are the deciding factor, I am not going for all of him for myself everything he gives me I share you however are only f0r yourself you only care abouyt what truth is to you.
I am only going to become stronger in him II only know to move forwards regardless of my sins or hiw well I do and iut isn't for myself that is not what real strength is it is not the REASON WHY HE WAS SO STRONG TO BEGINT
I made a covanent with him from the start that I would be strong for the very reason he was why he went so far aS HE DID THAT HAS NEVER LEFT OR CHANGED TELL ME WHY DO YOU KEEP GOING WHY DO YOU SEEK TO BE STRONG IN HIM WHAT IS YOUR ABSOLUTE REason for being a Christian?
You say what you want but your empty words your empty slander is is just garbage because our difference in wors shows what is really in the haerts of so called ChritisaNS
Did you not stae who asked me to throw away my bible? You say I am deslusioned yet I have hope life and the faith to dare to believe what others won't even with all you have said the difference between you and I is made evideent, I speak of hope faith believing in what is seen as insane you only speak of your own accordance you have no hope or faith in your words you are dry and empty I suffer greatly and yet continue tpo speak of his kingdom continue to try to to get people to become much closer to him
Which of us is abiding by the scripture?
dont you dare claim to speak in his name you are not in this for him you are not willing to go that far or listen to him make up your mind already either you are all in for him or not either you chose to be what he reflects or not, do you have any idea how many times I myself have almost died yet look at me I dare to believe where you won't I refuse to accept what you so called Christians call love I havce personally seen what this so called l;ove is a lady who was brought to tears from just being treated as a humanI don't answer to you or to whatever it is you listen to.
In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ I rebuke your ramblings and desire to control and reject your false prophecies.
I bless you in Jesus name and will not respond to you again. I pray those caught up in your disillusionment wake up and pray for you that you are loosed from the snares you have entangled yourself with. You are on ignore but God still sees you and understands your struggles.
Yet you refuse to listen make up your mind already do you take what he says as truth or not? do you believe or not? are you just in this for the hobby of it or not?Well, I guess you told me.
Well, I guess you told me.
Yet you refuse to listen make up your mind already do you take what he says as truth or not?
Do you recall me telling me that he is calling you and to pick up the phone already? it was never me you had to listen to and you never understood that I don;t say you are dry for no reason but if you are so stubborn and so confident in your own vial of what you call truth then you will never hear him and you are more than what you are now but your not going to listen he keeps calling you and you refuse to pick up yuour focus iiiiiiiiiiiion me not him I told you I am only the spark a spark is a quick small thing but the fire that is the rsult is what matters.Friend, I listen, I just don't listen to you; you haven't given me a good reason to. Apparently you're the one not listening. I've told you a thousand times I don't don't recognize you as the Lord's mouthpiece. I think you just like to argue.
The fact you keep going to me not what is spoken shows where you stand