The Importance of How to Interpret a Biblical Text

[Roughsoul1991]

Agreed. The problem is that the OP unnecessarily brought bible translations into the picture (so we went off on a tangent). If one made translations an issue, one could get bogged down in 20 translations and fail to actually deal with a particular passage. Not only that this could become a huge bone of contention. Furthermore, Bible study does NOT need to be made complicated (as presented in the OP).

Bible study is not complicated when someone has been taught good hermeneutics. In fact, when taught it really helps the Bible student in feeling confident of understanding the scriptures.

KJV is not the only translation. Even it has been updated using the same manuscripts but translated into modern language (NKJV). But yet the debate is not over English it should be over the original language translation.

As to why we cross and compare translations to the original language.

We would have less heresy if there weren't so many exegetical fallacies, logical fallacies, and poor hermeneutics involved in Bible studies.

It is silly that we are okay translating the Bible into Chinese but some push old English on 2023 teens. Good luck evangelizing using outdated English.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

If many of the “Christ-glorifying” words don’t exist in the original text, the translation cannot be “more accurate”.

Exactly. But then the question becomes which original texts do we use?

 

[Fundaamental]

let's me use Fundi, for example.
I called him out in every thread for dismissing how I read the True Word of God.
I claimed he said Speaking in Tongues is what Saves you.
I then claimed on his behalf the Bible is outdated and Science shouldn't be viewed as the correct authority,

Of course I had to push his buttons because I'm a superior scientist who knows better

I then went on to babble on about theese Gender Issues I have because I'm a full blown homophobe



I then claimed it was the FATHER, even though the Bible specifically states the Holy Spirit, gives the Utterance to Speaking in Tongues. So I went back and fourth with my whip


And then whipped him further in to making him believe he promotes Mormon Videos.


I claim he DENIES the pre-incarnation of Jesus Christ! Because I need to whip people over this, before they do such a thing even tho they've not done that. It's the best way to preach in my book, it cuts the cissy crap out


He DENIES that it was the WORD in Exodus 3 and 6 that gave names to Himself like Elohim even tho he hasn't got a clue what I'm talking about I will whip him further, because I am to be like the like, LORD, MOST HIGH GOD, YHWH, Yahweh! The father of discipline,


and this is the SHORT LIST and there's literally another 20+ examples i can give. Because I've got a complete book on him now of my ideal fantasy of him it's great I love it.



so, there's a WHOLE PACKAGE of my examples and my wonderful sounding board mind and look here is more of what he is doing.

I need to whip the crap out this new believer Rambo style and brutally beat the crap out of him in order to lead him to my world of how to be saved.

This a manly way of preaching


how many times do you say, no no no no no no no before saying, You're a LIAR, a DECEIVER, FALSE TEACHER, and you need to yank your head out and GET RIGHT with GOD?

if i followed your approach, he would still be the same ole person until he dies.

I believe, the effort should be made to stop it now so he can be Saved.

thankyou so much for saving me Mr preacher 😊

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Your motives seems pure enough but your methods are flawed. You don't overcome evil with evil, but with good. Because of the way you have chosen to proceed, you have lost your ability to influence Fundi. So no matter how much you know, Fundi will not receive it from you. In the words of Sir Topham Hatt...you are not a useful engine.
The wisdom that comes from God is first pure, then peaceable, etc. If your words don't promote peace, your wisdom will not be perceived as coming from God.

the ONLY person on here that Fundi agreed with was VAROB and he got banned.
there's NOT a single Poster connected to CC that can influence him even with sugar coated kindness.
how come you cannot recognize this for what it is?
if you did, maybe, you might treat this as an actual Spiritual Warfare.

 

[Fundaamental]

the ONLY person on here that Fundi agreed with was VAROB and he got banned that makes fundi a traitor so I'll get my whip out once more

there's NOT a single Poster connected to CC that can influence him even with sugar coated kindness so don't bother being kind to him get your whip out.
Get some bench press in before hand and pump up the blood vessels.




how come you cannot recognize this for what it is he's the number one villain around here it's time to have serious head like me, and cut the cissy crap out


if you do, maybe, you might treat this as an actual Spiritual Warfare. Battle and join in with my movement

yeah come on lets get fundi 😊😋

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

We Must Fight!! - Voddie Baucham | Video by The Gospel of Jesus Christ
https://fb.watch/m9mg__sOQ4/

As Christians, we need to have a fierce attitude when it comes to standing against the enemy of our soul. We can no longer afford to think of fierceness in a negative way. The Lion of Judah is fierce, and we need to be fierce in the way we fight for our families, and especially our children.

 

[cv5]

I'm the enquirer.

Whatever you claim to be, please do not assign yourself the appellation "mellifluous orator" or "beneficent scholar" or "refulgent illuminator of the Sacred Text".

Because clearly, you are none of those.

 

[cv5]

You don't overcome evil with evil, but with good.

Truth is not evil. Ever. The "delivery" methodology is of little consequence when it comes to confronting lies which ARE evil.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

We Must Fight!! - Voddie Baucham | Video by The Gospel of Jesus Christ
https://fb.watch/m9mg__sOQ4/

As Christians, we need to have a fierce attitude when it comes to standing against the enemy of our soul. We can no longer afford to think of fierceness in a negative way. The Lion of Judah is fierce, and we need to be fierce in the way we fight for our families, and especially our children.

 

[Fundaamental]

We Must Fight!! - Voddie Baucham | Video by The Gospel of Jesus Christ
https://fb.watch/m9mg__sOQ4/

I believe, we need to have a fierce attitude and follow the doctrine of men even if it means cutting out this shall be nice rubbish when it comes to standing against the enemy of our soul it's best to rant, even tho people may beat spiritual warfare with kindness I don't believe in cissy crap..

We can no longer afford to think of fierceness in a negative way. The Lion of Judah is fierce, and we need to be fierce in the way we fight for our families and especially our children. So join in with my movement of doctrines of men even tho the bible promotes abortion we should condemn those who commit it.

. I've edited this for you. 😊.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

watch the video and tell me where he is wrong.

he is talking about debating like here at CC.

 

[Fundaamental]

watch my doctrine of men and tell me where im wrong to follow his method

he is talking about how I debate here at CC.

I've edited this for you 😊

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Watch the VIDEO.

I have been DOING the EXACT same thing that SOME of you say I am WRONG about.
so, WATCH it and tell me what you think?

 

[Cameron143]

the ONLY person on here that Fundi agreed with was VAROB and he got banned.
there's NOT a single Poster connected to CC that can influence him even with sugar coated kindness.
how come you cannot recognize this for what it is?
if you did, maybe, you might treat this as an actual Spiritual Warfare.

Maybe noone can reach him. That's not the point. We all have to give an account before God. For the believer, we won't face judgment, but we can lose reward. And we aren't called to be successful, only faithful.

.Jesus cautioned the Pharisees that he came not for those who were whole but those who are sick. Mercy is better than sacrifice.

 

[cv5]

You don't overcome evil with evil, but with good.

Rom 12:21
Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

I think you have your quote (and the meaning you have attached to it) seriously distorted.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Maybe noone can reach him. That's not the point. We all have to give an account before God. For the believer, we won't face judgment, but we can lose reward. And we aren't called to be successful, only faithful.

.Jesus cautioned the Pharisees that he came not for those who were whole but those who are sick. Mercy is better than sacrifice.

he is saying, people like you, Who condemn how i do spiritual warfare, is worse than how Satan would attack me.

do you like Voddie Baucham?

just wondering.

i ask, because in the Video at the 22:45 minute mark, he says WE are to DESTROY EVERY IDEALISM that goes against God.
and then, we take EVERY THOUGHT CAPTIVE against God and PUNISH THEM!

he is saying, you are WRONG!

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

another point he made.

more Christians TODAY are MORE OFFENDED if i say you are a SODOMITE LOVER than the literal ACT of SODOMY itself!

Voddie, is nailing the HYPOCRITE CHURCH that is the majority TODAY!

 

[Cameron143]

he is saying, people like you, Who condemn how i do spiritual warfare, is worse than how Satan would attack me.

do you like Voddie Baucham?

just wondering.

i ask, because in the Video at the 22:45 minute mark, he says WE are to DESTROY EVERY IDEALISM that goes against God.
and then, we take EVERY THOUGHT CAPTIVE against God and PUNISH THEM!

he is saying, you are WRONG!

You are free to disregard any or all I have shared. I believe Mr. Baucham is wrong in his approach.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

You are free to disregard any or all I have shared. I believe Mr. Baucham is wrong in his approach.

no, i believe you are sincerely trying to be my friend and help me. that is how i have viewed this entire discussion between us. and, i am not saying you are wrong. i am saying, there's a time and place for everything. and when a Poster continually disregards the Bible and the pre-incarnation of Jesus, that is not the time to let it slide, but to come at it with warfare.

 

[cv5]

in the Video at the 22:45 minute mark, he says WE are to DESTROY EVERY IDEALISM that goes against God.
and then, we take EVERY THOUGHT CAPTIVE.......
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Yes, that would apply to Christians and the Church. Those outside are not under consideration in that regard.